What do I want with the 3235 caliber?

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by maxbelg

The ceramic ball bearings should last forever I’d think, but it‘s true that the whole rotor will need to be replaced if there were an issue. I do think it‘s funny so many people complained about the archaic Rolex rotor without ball bearings for so long though....

No complaints here and never have complained.
Once I became aware of the very reason why the Rotor was as quiet as a church mouse on my Rolex watches. I wondered why other manufacturers weren't doing it.
After all, when it's properly maintained there's not much of a down side. I know there can be problems with the slipper bearing arrangement, but they're usually associated with a lack on maintenance or an accidental drop. In that case it comes down to operator errors.

The new roller bearing hasn't been proven in the case of accidental damage and there are any number of other things that can go wrong with the movement in that event anyway.

I do understand the winding efficiency of the roller bearing would be improved over the long term as opposed to the slipper bearing. But I much prefer to have a silent rotor and maintain regular service intervals.
Accuracy is proven to be the same and a claimed 70 hour(not proven) power reserve is completely superfluous to me.

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by Dirt

That's the totally bonkers part about it.

The question remains. How come an organization like Rolex operating on the level that they are can't get the most fundamental lube requirements right, for something they designed and manufacture in it's entirety under their very own roof????

As much as I respect the brand, this aspect of the production of the 3235 movement absolutely leaves me dumbfounded
It makes me wonder if there's somebody working on the line that's deliberately not putting a drop of lube on a particular spot just to screw the company over

This lube issue has been ongoing with no sign yet of it being rectified at the source
We on this forum, are representative of a very small sector of the watch market and it keeps cropping up.
I wonder how many other people across the broader consumer base are having timekeeping problems with these movements that we aren't hearing about.
The number is possibly quite staggering when all things are considered

Not bonkers at all really. It happens in every industry. The 2020 1st year Supra had a few issues, 2nd gen solved them.
The latest F8x series M cars had a couple issues for the first two years, by year six, the car was perfect. It happens in many fields, because once the public gets its hands on something, they find the problems.

Look at all the refinements and improvements the 3135 underwent over its 40 plus years, it’s only been two years for the 32xx, we have decades to go.

[maxbelg]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

Every thing sounded nice and sincere until the need to throw shade at the 3235...........It's fascinating sometimes that there is a need among some here to continuously justify their choice by "humbly/slyly" belittling or attacking something else.........

I couldn't agree more, except that's it often not humbly or slyly at all . I can't understand either why one has to justify your own personal choice by criticising or belittling alternatives . Makes me think of a Deepsea thread: Half posted how great it fits/is and the other half how stupidly big/uncomfortable they are. (I love mine but realise it's not for everyone)

We're all different, which is why it's great that Rolex makes different styles, sizes and movements. What I like to read is technical info, especially from watchmakers on the movements, but these posts are heavily diluted in the incoming/availability/can I swim with my Sub/which should I buy or keep/ type posts.....

[TswaneNguni]

https://quillandpad.com/2019/11/19/w...ich-is-better/

"The 3235 is a great movement,there is no denying that .
But its speed and looks cant compare with the strength and intelligence of its older brother.
Strength and intelligence are the qualities of a great king,
thus for me the 3135 reigns supreme."

Ashton Tracey
Quail + Pad
April 2018, Horological Journal .

[Henrimontgomery]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

https://quillandpad.com/2019/11/19/w...ich-is-better/

"The 3235 is a great movement,there is no denying that .
But its speed and looks cant compare with the strength and intelligence of its older brother.
Strength and intelligence are the qualities of a great king,
thus for me the 3135 reigns supreme."

Ashton Tracey
Quail + Pad
April 2018, Horological Journal .

Interesting read, especially about the replacements parts.

Just like phones, who went from battery you could swap to glued components, forcing you to go to the official manufacturer and replaces wholes parts instead of a singular piece when it fails.

[maxbelg]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

https://quillandpad.com/2019/11/19/w...ich-is-better/.........

Yes, I know this article and it's a great read too...

[LOWERCASE GUY]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

Every thing sounded nice and sincere until the need to throw shade at the 3235. Sad, that the real point of the post was at the end.

It's fascinating sometimes that there is a need among some here to continuously justify their choice by "humbly/slyly" belittling or attacking something else, usually something to do with a modern Rolex. I really believe that if you tried reeeeeeeally hard you could actually enjoy your choice in whatever Rolex product you like without having to say something negative about something else.

Originally Posted by maxbelg

I couldn't agree more, except that's it often not humbly or slyly at all . I can't understand either why one has to justify your own personal choice by criticising or belittling alternatives . Makes me think of a Deepsea thread: Half posted how great it fits/is and the other half how stupidly big/uncomfortable they are. (I love mine but realise it's not for everyone)

We're all different, which is why it's great that Rolex makes different styles, sizes and movements. What I like to read is technical info, especially from watchmakers on the movements, but these posts are heavily diluted in the incoming/availability/can I swim with my Sub/which should I buy or keep/ type posts.....

Bravo