If you drive a BMW and you HATE the Run Flat Tires then GIH.

[Brunotheboxer]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Would someone kindly explain what the hell "run flats" means?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run-flat_tire


Jj you don't want them whether you spell it tire or tyre.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Brunotheboxer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run-flat_tire


Jj you don't want them whether you spell it tire or tyre.

Thanks, Burno......but the name's JJ.....both UPPER CASE "J"s!!

[Brunotheboxer]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Thanks, Burno......but the name's JJ.....both UPPER CASE "J"s!!

Burno made a typo

[Mosco]

Burno and Jj sitting in a tree....

[Brunotheboxer]

Originally Posted by Mosco

Burno and Jj sitting in a tree....

[nads070]

Originally Posted by Brunotheboxer

For what ever good reason you give me that you like them I will give you one reason why I hate them. I'm thinking my next car might not be a BMW just because of them. Help me.

Bruno,
My E90 came with runflats and I am at 18K miles currently.. I am having the same debate. I was considering buying the small donut and a jack kit, but then there is the issue of the trunk space....I am sure non RFT feel better, but at this point I do not mind....I heard that you can still plug or patch RFT without an issue..BMW just doesn't recommend it because of liability issues, and I am sure they want you to buy a new tire from them every time!

here is the link for the spare tire.
http://leatherz.com/Merchant5/mercha...Code=E90Safety

[Brunotheboxer]

Originally Posted by nads070

Bruno,
My E90 came with runflats and I am at 18K miles currently.. I am having the same debate. I was considering buying the small donut and a jack kit, but then there is the issue of the trunk space....I am sure non RFT feel better, but at this point I do not mind....I heard that you can still plug or patch RFT without an issue..BMW just doesn't recommend it because of liability issues, and I am sure they want you to buy a new tire from them every time!

here is the link for the spare tire.
http://leatherz.com/Merchant5/mercha...Code=E90Safety

You definitely can patch a run flat its just hard to find a place that will.

[BigHat]

Well I have FRs on my 07 650 vert and had them on my '06 650 coupe. Also played the "goop" game with an '04 M3.

Personally, I don't mind the ride. The RFs have been gotten better. Haven't had a flat tire in 20 years. Yea, it could end-up being a giant pain in the butt out in the sticks but I'll take my chances. In plans to fill a small trunk with jacks etc. The RF issue is the "PCLs on a Sub" equivalent in the Roundel magazine and on BMW boards.

If you don't like them 1) buy another brand car, 2) spend $1000+ for new tires and fill your trunk with a full spare or donut, lots of people do it. I wouldn't expect BMW to change. If anything, more brands will go this way in the effort to reduce weight, boost fuel economy, and maximze capacity, etc. Personally, I hope this happens so 1) more shops will stock the tires, 2) have the equipment to change them and 3) compete against eac other on price. The price of runflats really isn't so bad, when you compare them to the "gouge" prices dealers charge on all tires. The problem is that you lack alternatives.

[Brunotheboxer]

Originally Posted by BigHat

Well I have FRs on my 07 650 vert and had them on my '06 650 coupe. Also played the "goop" game with an '04 M3.

Personally, I don't mind the ride. The RFs have been gotten better. Haven't had a flat tire in 20 years. Yea, it could end-up being a giant pain in the butt out in the sticksbut I take my chances. The FR issue is the "PCLs on a Sub" in the Roundel magazine and BMW boards.

If you don't like them 1) buy another brand car, 2) spend $1000+ for new tires and fill your trunk with a full spare or donut. Don't expect BMW to change. If anything, more brands will go this way in the effort to reduce weight, boost fuel economy, and maximze capacity, etc.

I don't have room in my trunk, too much junk.

[Launch Mini]

Originally Posted by Brunotheboxer

Yeah but when you picked up that nail did you have to get a whole new tire?

Actually, NO. Took it to the local tire shop, the repaired it NO CHARGE. Made my day
It was dead centre, no on the sidewall.

Had one in my MINI too, they patched it for me also, no problem at all.

[Tripp11]

Originally Posted by Brunotheboxer

I don't have room in my trunk, too much junk.

Tow hitch and trailer FTW.

[Brunotheboxer]

Originally Posted by Launch Mini

Actually, NO. Took it to the local tire shop, the repaired it NO CHARGE. Made my day
It was dead centre, no on the sidewall.

Had one in my MINI too, they patched it for me also, no problem at all.

Now that is a good tire shop.

Originally Posted by Tripp11

Tow hitch and trailer FTW.

[BigHat]

The real mystery on RFs is the safety issue. Now, lots of shops will advise against repairing ANY high performance tire (patch or plug) but they seem VERY strict on RFs.
I think the issue is they have no idea how long / far and at what speed you've driven on the tire and refuse to risk a lawsuit by fixing it and having it self-destruct while you're going down the road at 90 mph.

I'd love to really know if there are issues with fixing a RF other than the legal precautions. I don't have a circumference sensing system ('04 M3), but a direct pressure reading from the tire. If I pulled over immediately on warning and didn't overstress/overheat the sidewalls etc, what exactly makes the RF instantly id'd for the landfill?

[vh_bu98]

I would get new tires instead of getting rid of the car. I know a lot of BMW drivers who replaced their run flats with regular tires.

If you're leasing, just keep the run flats in the garage until your lease is up.

My BMW has a full-size spare in the trunk and it hasn't been used in almost 5 years.

[nads070]

Originally Posted by Mosco

I just checked Oxford and the correct spelling is..... TAYIRE! Whowouldathunk?!

You guys are crazy!