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Alan111 · 3 April 2009, 03:36 AM

Just went out to an AD during lunch, and decided to try a few watches on.

I must say that I was not impressed with the DDII. The size was really overwhelming, just like I thought in the pictures. It was really humungo and not my fit at all. It was also however, very heavy and pleasant to hold, not to wear.

However, I have never felt that way about the submariner. I felt that the sub actually fit my 6.5" wrist very well.

So for all you people out there who may feel bad that Rolex came out with a DJII and has "feminized" our 36mm, TRUST ME, the 36 is a timeless classic, just like we always thought, and will ALWAYS be a men's size. This new 41mm case diameter thingy is just a fad that's going to quickly fade. This AD also told me that they have never ever sold one yet since taking delivery of these DDII last year, dont see why they would lie to me about that.

Omega_Precision · 3 April 2009, 03:45 AM

They are not "feminizing" the 36mm DJ, it's officially the women's model according to Rolex. The flower-dial that came out isn't the only women's model, the whole line got revamped.

The men's model got beefed up to 41mm.

Rolex really dropped the ball on this one.

PalmSpringsCaVault · 3 April 2009, 03:47 AM

I was disapointed when i held the larger DDII myself, and my first thougth was i hope this doesnt devalue my current Day date. But the thing was FUGLY to put it mildly they should have at least fluted that giant bezel, it looks so bulky like that. my 2 cents.

Omega_Precision · 3 April 2009, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PalmSpringsCaVault

I was disapointed when i held the larger DDII myself, and my first thougth was i hope this doesnt devalue my current Day date. But the thing was FUGLY to put it mildly they should have at least fluted that giant bezel, it looks so bulky like that. my 2 cents.

I like the DDII.

I think if you are going to buy the flagship Rolex line, it should be a big hefty gold watch. They did that exactly.

boa2 · 3 April 2009, 04:19 AM

I've tried on several DDIIs, and prefer the 36mm DD. But of course, others may prefer the reverse.

BigHat · 3 April 2009, 04:44 AM

I would never consider a 36mm DD (too small for me) so I was happy to see the 41mm models released. Sadly, once I got my hands on them though I was less than impressed. Sure, I great watch, but as some of you say, it didn't "smile at me." Considering the prices, I guess I should be happy.

Alan111 · 3 April 2009, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PalmSpringsCaVault

I was disapointed when i held the larger DDII myself, and my first thougth was i hope this doesnt devalue my current Day date. But the thing was FUGLY to put it mildly they should have at least fluted that giant bezel, it looks so bulky like that. my 2 cents.

x2! - I've always said, it looks like a Day-date (36) on steroids ...

JIM- · 3 April 2009, 05:01 AM

Yea the whole big watch craze is overblown. I've owned a few DJs and currently have the 2007 model. I looked at new 41mm DJs and no way does it even interest me. It seems wrong in size.

John685 · 3 April 2009, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan111

Just went out to an AD during lunch, and decided to try a few watches on.

I must say that I was not impressed with the DDII. The size was really overwhelming, just like I thought in the pictures. It was really humungo and not my fit at all. It was also however, very heavy and pleasant to hold, not to wear.

However, I have never felt that way about the submariner. I felt that the sub actually fit my 6.5" wrist very well.

So for all you people out there who may feel bad that Rolex came out with a DJII and has "feminized" our 36mm, TRUST ME, the 36 is a timeless classic, just like we always thought, and will ALWAYS be a men's size. This new 41mm case diameter thingy is just a fad that's going to quickly fade. This AD also told me that they have never ever sold one yet since taking delivery of these DDII last year, dont see why they would lie to me about that.

X2

It's all in the eyes of the beholder. IMO the DJII and DDII are an attempt to cater to the current fad. Some may like them and that's fine with me. I just prefer the classic 36mm.

Yume-sama · 3 April 2009, 06:01 AM

You couldn't put enough diamonds on a DDII to dress it up enough for me to buy.

nylawbiz · 3 April 2009, 10:40 AM

When I was at the AD today, he took out a new gold DD41 to look at (tagged at $27,500). It's a big piece of metal for sure. Even the AD said that it looked wrong to him. The fluted bezel reminded me of a big flower~ He thinks it's going to be a flop. But if I liked it, he would sell it to me - LOL.

txbikerdude · 3 April 2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by boa2

I've tried on several DDIIs, and prefer the 36mm DD. But of course, others may prefer the reverse.

me too

kyle L · 3 April 2009, 10:42 AM

If only and AD would let me try on a Day Date... Sigh......
Maybe I should go in with my Explorer and Surprise them.

ninetres · 3 April 2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kyle L

If only and AD would let me try on a Day Date... Sigh......
Maybe I should go in with my Explorer and Surprise them.

Your AD won't let you try on a DD? I must have missed a joke or something.

Yume-sama · 3 April 2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ninetres

Your AD won't let you try on a DD? I must have missed a joke or something.

Ageist policies! As Kyle is only 14.

I know the feeling.

RolexBuckeye · 3 April 2009, 11:45 AM

There is nothing classier than a 36mm DJ or DD that is fitted to a person's wrist (not dangling). As long as your wrists aren't huge! If they are then the DJII or DDII are for you, just wear it with confidence and proportion it to your wrist.

bmackinlay · 3 April 2009, 08:44 PM

I have had both, and I'm sold on the DD II.Look at it this way, it is about the same size as a GMT II-c or a Sub,and we all wear them and don't consider them too big. Personally I feel the 36mm DD was small on my wrist,so whe Rolex introduced the DD II I jumped on it(last Saturday)! Bill

rajurama · 3 April 2009, 09:02 PM

Actually I had ordered the DayDateII but it just looked not right so went ahead and bought the daydate classic... However I guess overtime I ll get more used to it and probably get a 41 DJ! never say never

Mort · 3 April 2009, 11:38 PM

I prefer the classic 36mm. And its funny, until this whole oversize watch thing came about, I hardly ever heard people complain that the 36mms were too small or feminine.

boa2 · 3 April 2009, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bmackinlay

I have had both, and I'm sold on the DD II.Look at it this way, it is about the same size as a GMT II-c or a Sub,and we all wear them and don't consider them too big. Personally I feel the 36mm DD was small on my wrist,so whe Rolex introduced the DD II I jumped on it(last Saturday)! Bill

And yours looks fantastic, Bill!

bewithabob · 4 April 2009, 01:00 AM

No denying that the DDII is beautiful. To say otherwise - who are we kidding? If the price was the same for the DD and the DDII, who wouldn't want the DDII. Fact is- it's pricey- and thus not for everyone. Envy? It is Rolex quality through and through.
For the old ladies among us who are losing eyesight, the size makes it easier to read even if we are 90. Of course you wont be able to lift your arm to get a closer look because if the hefty weight---
So why not just get one of those lovely wall clocks. Better yet- see this photo from an exhibit in Lensburg near Zurich...what we all need- a room full of clocks...

Alan111 · 4 April 2009, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mort

I prefer the classic 36mm. And its funny, until this whole oversize watch thing came about, I hardly ever heard people complain that the 36mms were too small or feminine.

x2!!!!! I agree 100%!

Alan111 · 4 April 2009, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bewithabob

No denying that the DDII is beautiful. To say otherwise - who are we kidding? If the price was the same for the DD and the DDII, who wouldn't want the DDII. Fact is- it's pricey- and thus not for everyone.

If you're spending that kind of money, I doubt the customer would worry too much about the price difference. And since it has not been a success among the various AD's I've asked, I'm pretty sure they'll give a hefty discount to get them moved out

Mort · 4 April 2009, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bewithabob

No denying that the DDII is beautiful. To say otherwise - who are we kidding? If the price was the same for the DD and the DDII, who wouldn't want the DDII. Fact is- it's pricey- and thus not for everyone. Envy? It is Rolex quality through and through.
For the old ladies among us who are losing eyesight, the size makes it easier to read even if we are 90. Of course you wont be able to lift your arm to get a closer look because if the hefty weight---
So why not just get one of those lovely wall clocks. Better yet- see this photo from an exhibit in Lensburg near Zurich...what we all need- a room full of clocks...

I think the DDII and the DJII are nice. Price alone would not make me choose on over the other. Especailly for the fact that Rolex didnt do much for the larger models than build a larger case. When I tried on the DDII in person the dial did not seem any larger and definatly not any easier to read than the standard DD. If they really had thought it out, they would of built the case larger and had the bezel be proportioned to the case size and made a much larger dial to go along the its new size.

Not to compaire, but when Panerai makes a 44MM watch,not only are you getting a larger case you are getting a larger dial as well. I would be more impressed if Rolex had done the same.

I still can see everyones draw to it because it is new, but for size alone? I do not get it.

DVR · 4 April 2009, 03:56 AM

With all this 36mm talk I just had to take my DJ TOG out of the safe. (put the YM 40mm back)
If the DD and DJ II would have been proportioned like the 36 I might buy one.
But not so If and when I buy a DD it will be 36mm.

Btw , 36 is still a normal men's size and Rolex does not say otherwise. It just stated that the new "flower" DJ is for women.
Some (many?) years ago Rolex launched the Daytona in a lot of feminine colors. Pink, light green and others. In the press release it mentioned it to be the ultimate ladies watch or something along those lines. Do we consider the Daytona a ladies watch because of it ?

flyback · 4 April 2009, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega_Precision

They are not "feminizing" the 36mm DJ, it's officially the women's model according to Rolex.

Where are you getting that information?

In their Basel press release, Rolex describes the specific new references they're releasing. They refer to the new "resolutely feminine version" of the 36mm Datejust, but I don't see any official claim that all 36mm Datejusts are the "women's model."

3 April 2009, 03:36 AM	#1
Alan111 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 1,605	41mm Rolex Case Just went out to an AD during lunch, and decided to try a few watches on. I must say that I was not impressed with the DDII. The size was really overwhelming, just like I thought in the pictures. It was really humungo and not my fit at all. It was also however, very heavy and pleasant to hold, not to wear. However, I have never felt that way about the submariner. I felt that the sub actually fit my 6.5" wrist very well. So for all you people out there who may feel bad that Rolex came out with a DJII and has "feminized" our 36mm, TRUST ME, the 36 is a timeless classic, just like we always thought, and will ALWAYS be a men's size. This new 41mm case diameter thingy is just a fad that's going to quickly fade. This AD also told me that they have never ever sold one yet since taking delivery of these DDII last year, dont see why they would lie to me about that.

3 April 2009, 04:19 AM	#5
boa2 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Howard Location: Utah Watch: Lover Posts: 3,939	I've tried on several DDIIs, and prefer the 36mm DD. But of course, others may prefer the reverse. __________________ "Facts and truth really don't have much to do with each other."

3 April 2009, 11:38 PM	#19
Mort "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,001	I prefer the classic 36mm. And its funny, until this whole oversize watch thing came about, I hardly ever heard people complain that the 36mms were too small or feminine. __________________ Collection Stainless DJ II Rhodium with Arabic Dial 116334, Longines RG Master Collection Chronograph Triple Date Moon, Maurice Lacroix TT Masterpiece Triple Date Moon, Vintage Gallet SS Flying Officer Chronograph

4 April 2009, 01:00 AM	#21
bewithabob "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Bob Location: Dallas, Texas Watch: Daytona Meteorite Posts: 3,417	No denying that the DDII is beautiful. To say otherwise - who are we kidding? If the price was the same for the DD and the DDII, who wouldn't want the DDII. Fact is- it's pricey- and thus not for everyone. Envy? It is Rolex quality through and through. For the old ladies among us who are losing eyesight, the size makes it easier to read even if we are 90. Of course you wont be able to lift your arm to get a closer look because if the hefty weight--- So why not just get one of those lovely wall clocks. Better yet- see this photo from an exhibit in Lensburg near Zurich...what we all need- a room full of clocks... Attached Images __________________ meteor flying to Earth onto my wrist... 116509 Daytona Meteorite, 116520 Daytona Black, 116710 GMTIIC, 16013 DATEJUST, CARTIER SANTOS 100 W20090X8, IWC Big Pilot, IWC Top Gun "Everything works out in the end. If it hasn't worked out, it's not the end."

3 April 2009, 03:45 AM	#2
Omega_Precision Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Henry Location: CA, US Watch: ing basketball Posts: 2,977	They are not "feminizing" the 36mm DJ, it's officially the women's model according to Rolex. The flower-dial that came out isn't the only women's model, the whole line got revamped. The men's model got beefed up to 41mm. Rolex really dropped the ball on this one.

3 April 2009, 03:47 AM	#3
PalmSpringsCaVault Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: palm springs CA Watch: Plat.118296DayDate Posts: 192	I was disapointed when i held the larger DDII myself, and my first thougth was i hope this doesnt devalue my current Day date. But the thing was FUGLY to put it mildly they should have at least fluted that giant bezel, it looks so bulky like that. my 2 cents.

3 April 2009, 04:44 AM	#6
BigHat Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Matt Location: Arlington, VA Watch: Lange One MP Posts: 4,043	I would never consider a 36mm DD (too small for me) so I was happy to see the 41mm models released. Sadly, once I got my hands on them though I was less than impressed. Sure, I great watch, but as some of you say, it didn't "smile at me." Considering the prices, I guess I should be happy.

3 April 2009, 05:01 AM	#8
JIM- Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 599	Yea the whole big watch craze is overblown. I've owned a few DJs and currently have the 2007 model. I looked at new 41mm DJs and no way does it even interest me. It seems wrong in size.

3 April 2009, 06:01 AM	#10
Yume-sama "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: CAN / SIN Watch: Plat. Masterpiece Posts: 1,959	You couldn't put enough diamonds on a DDII to dress it up enough for me to buy.

3 April 2009, 10:40 AM	#11
nylawbiz Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Brian Location: New York Watch: too many Posts: 705	When I was at the AD today, he took out a new gold DD41 to look at (tagged at $27,500). It's a big piece of metal for sure. Even the AD said that it looked wrong to him. The fluted bezel reminded me of a big flower~ He thinks it's going to be a flop. But if I liked it, he would sell it to me - LOL.

3 April 2009, 10:42 AM	#13
kyle L "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Explorer I Posts: 10,278	If only and AD would let me try on a Day Date... Sigh...... Maybe I should go in with my Explorer and Surprise them.

3 April 2009, 11:45 AM	#16
RolexBuckeye "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Dan Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 298	There is nothing classier than a 36mm DJ or DD that is fitted to a person's wrist (not dangling). As long as your wrists aren't huge! If they are then the DJII or DDII are for you, just wear it with confidence and proportion it to your wrist.

3 April 2009, 08:44 PM	#17
bmackinlay "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Bill MacKinlay Location: Dade City, Fl. Watch: 18K Pres.DD 118238 Posts: 476	I have had both, and I'm sold on the DD II.Look at it this way, it is about the same size as a GMT II-c or a Sub,and we all wear them and don't consider them too big. Personally I feel the 36mm DD was small on my wrist,so whe Rolex introduced the DD II I jumped on it(last Saturday)! Bill

3 April 2009, 09:02 PM	#18
rajurama "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Rick Location: Wakanda Watch: amacallit Posts: 2,090	Actually I had ordered the DayDateII but it just looked not right so went ahead and bought the daydate classic... However I guess overtime I ll get more used to it and probably get a 41 DJ! never say never

4 April 2009, 03:56 AM	#25
DVR "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Denis Location: Flanders, EU Watch: Diver watches Posts: 2,009	With all this 36mm talk I just had to take my DJ TOG out of the safe. (put the YM 40mm back) If the DD and DJ II would have been proportioned like the 36 I might buy one. But not so If and when I buy a DD it will be 36mm. Btw , 36 is still a normal men's size and Rolex does not say otherwise. It just stated that the new "flower" DJ is for women. Some (many?) years ago Rolex launched the Daytona in a lot of feminine colors. Pink, light green and others. In the press release it mentioned it to be the ultimate ladies watch or something along those lines. Do we consider the Daytona a ladies watch because of it ?

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