Lange 1815 Up / Down vs. Daytona 116520?

[Eapfep]

Hi all,

Over the past few weeks I've been rethinking and rebuilding my 3 watch collection, effectively I've gone from:

- Rolex 16600 SD
- Rolex 16570 Polar Exp II
- IWC Portuguese 150 Chronograph Year Blue Dial

to the following:

- VC Overseas 47040 Deepstream on Bracelet
- Rolex 16570 Polar Exp II

Moving forward I'm pretty keen on replacing my 16570 with a GS Quartz GMT, which would clear up funds for another watch. Here's what I'm thinking now but would love to get some thoughts.

- Lange 1815 Up / Down in White Gold: I'm rarely in a suit as I work in tech, but I am also getting married next year, so thinking this would be a fantastic watch for the occasion and still toned down enough to wear for more casual occasions.

- Daytona 116520 in White / Black: The Ceramic Daytonas have been on my list for a while, but I'm not interested in paying that much over retail right now. I've just started to look at the last-gen steel bezel versions which look nice as well (albeit more "classic" and less "sporty", which is fine in my collection).

[ThatSubGuy]

You don't need to wear a suit to rock the Lange. Casual shirt, rolled up sleeves with jeans works perfectly.

Daytonas are nice but you will still be paying a lot over retail for a good 116520. A 3 piece collection should certainly include a dress-watch.

I'd keep the 16570, seeing as it's the piece that has been the longest in your collection there must be a reason for that.. ?

[Eapfep]

Originally Posted by ThatSubGuy

You don't need to wear a suit to rock the Lange. Casual shirt, rolled up sleeves with jeans works perfectly.

Daytonas are nice but you will still be paying a lot over retail for a good 116520. A 3 piece collection should certainly include a dress-watch.

I'd keep the 16570, seeing as it's the piece that has been the longest in your collection there must be a reason for that.. ?

Yeah - that's what I'm thinking for the Lange as well. A collared shirt or nice knit would be fine.

The 16570 was my first Rolex and my go-to travel watch but gets very little wrist time since I got the Overseas. Instead of a watch winder I tend to wear my watches in 1-2 week stints and the GMT hand is a hassle to have to set every time. It's not quite inexpensive enough for me to consider as a "beater" either. Been reading up about the SGBN GS quartz series and feel like this would address both my complaints above.

[CFR]

I'm biased as (a) a longtime Lange enthusiast and (b) someone who dislikes the look and feel of most Daytonas.

You can wear a white gold Lange with anything. I never wear suits, and most other Lange enthusiasts I know don't consider Lange to be exclusively a dress watch.

Here are some pics of a WG 1815 Up/Down (223.026 Walter Lange with half-hunter caseback):

[le_baron]

Originally Posted by CFR

You can wear a white gold Lange with anything

Agreed. Also, very nice pictures

[ThatSubGuy]

Originally Posted by Eapfep

Yeah - that's what I'm thinking for the Lange as well. A collared shirt or nice knit would be fine.

The 16570 was my first Rolex and my go-to travel watch but gets very little wrist time since I got the Overseas. Instead of a watch winder I tend to wear my watches in 1-2 week stints and the GMT hand is a hassle to have to set every time. It's not quite inexpensive enough for me to consider as a "beater" either. Been reading up about the SGBN GS quartz series and feel like this would address both my complaints above.

Do yourself a favour and keep the 16570, specially it being your first Rolex and a watch that has been with you on travels. Must have great memories and sentimental value.

I get it that the Overseas gets more wristtime being new and everything, but down the road you're going to be kicking yourself for selling the Explorer. Trust me (and I'm sure many others will agree).

I don't know about the GMT hand being a hassle, do you really need to set it everytime you wear it? Otherwise I'd honestly just get a winder for it if you find it that annoying.

Remember you're on a Rolex forum so I don't think anyone would ever tell you to sell a Rolex for a Seiko ;-) But honestly I think it would be a mistake selling it.

If you have bank enough for a Lange 1815, A Vacheron Overseas AND a third-watch, you should definitely be able to use the Explorer as a 'beater'. Like you say you rotate every 1-2 weeks, so in a way all your watches automatically become your daily beaters, even if only for short periods at a time.

[Ihatecheese]

Nice Lange, I mean they are multiple levels of horology and quality higher than the rolex. There are so many rolexes around, millions made, so you can always pick another one up in the future when bored. GS make some beautiful watches. Obviously won't gain the approval of random people though.

[wigdog63]

Very nice Lange.

[cascavel]

If you're under 50, 116520 black dial, be sure to buy one with box and papers. If you're 50 or over, Lange U/D. Ultimately, they are both superb watches and you can't go wrong with either.

[capote]

All hype aside, switching an Explorer 2 for a Daytona seems like an expensive lateral move compared to the prospect of getting a Lange instead.

[mongrelnomoad]

I don't have an 1815, but I do have a Lange 1, and I wear it all the time with jeans (I don't think I've worn a suit in at least 2 years). That said, I use an Aquanaut or a BLNR as a beater.

[Lamontsanders]

I don't think the Daytona is worth the price of admission anymore. Keep the Explorer.

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by mongrelnomoad

I don't have an 1815, but I do have a Lange 1, and I wear it all the time with jeans (I don't think I've worn a suit in at least 2 years). That said, I use an Aquanaut or a BLNR as a beater.

Awesome watch !

Is it 3 am ? It looks like the daytime view behind the moon is rising.

[mongrelnomoad]

Originally Posted by EEpro

Awesome watch !

Is it 3 am ? It looks like the daytime view behind the moon is rising.

Yeah, I set it wrong.

[ddaneh]

I'd say get the lange. I have 1815 UD and used to have 520 black daytona. Sold the daytona as i felt its too blingy with all the steel bezel and shiny subdial

[pdnb]

Originally Posted by mongrelnomoad

I don't have an 1815, but I do have a Lange 1, and I wear it all the time with jeans (I don't think I've worn a suit in at least 2 years). That said, I use an Aquanaut or a BLNR as a beater.

Since the stars only show up during night hours, I was thinking that If I do get one; I would set mine with a 12 hour phase shift so I could be awake the full time to see the stars traverse the background. Cheers! Especially if you did that on purpose

What strap maker is that by the way? I just got a special tanning blue gator for my 403 Dato


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[JR16]

Originally Posted by pdnb

Since the stars only show up during night hours, I was thinking that If I do get one; I would set mine with a 12 hour phase shift so I could be awake the full time to see the stars traverse the background. Cheers! Especially if you did that on purpose

What strap maker is that by the way? I just got a special tanning blue gator for my 403 Dato


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I assume you are referring to the moon phase - the disc rotates according to the lunar schedule , not am/pm.


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[EEpro]

Originally Posted by JR16

I assume you are referring to the moon phase - the disc rotates according to the lunar schedule , not am/pm.


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Actually in the Lange 1 moonphase there is an AM/PM disc behind the moon disk.

[JR16]

Originally Posted by EEpro

Actually in the Lange 1 moonphase there is an AM/PM disc behind the moon disk.

Ahhh I stand corrected


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[mongrelnomoad]

Originally Posted by pdnb

Since the stars only show up during night hours, I was thinking that If I do get one; I would set mine with a 12 hour phase shift so I could be awake the full time to see the stars traverse the background. Cheers! Especially if you did that on purpose

What strap maker is that by the way? I just got a special tanning blue gator for my 403 Dato


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The issue is that the day/night indicator is tied to the date so you can’t offset unless you’re happy with the date jumping at midday... I’d just got off a long flight when that photo was taken (pre-Corona) and jumped a few too many hours in the jet lag haze. Truth be told, it’s a shame I don’t get to see the stars in full effect often enough...

The strap is a custom from Jean Rousseau. Highly recommended...

Originally Posted by JR16

Ahhh I stand corrected


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You can see the day portion clearer here...

[pdnb]

Originally Posted by mongrelnomoad

The issue is that the day/night indicator is tied to the date so you can’t offset unless you’re happy with the date jumping at midday... I’d just got off a long flight when that photo was taken (pre-Corona) and jumped a few too many hours in the jet lag haze. Truth be told, it’s a shame I don’t get to see the stars in full effect often enough...

The strap is a custom from Jean Rousseau. Highly recommended...



You can see the day portion clearer here...

Thanks Mongrelnomoad for reminding me of date tying to day night indicator.that makes sense.

Should have guessed a JR; is that the JR blue?


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[mongrelnomoad]

Originally Posted by pdnb

Thanks Mongrelnomoad for reminding me of date tying to day night indicator.that makes sense.

Should have guessed a JR; is that the JR blue?


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They have a huge selection of blues, but this was from the drawer of full hides. I was able to choose the specific scales I wanted on the strap...

[pdnb]

Originally Posted by mongrelnomoad

They have a huge selection of blues, but this was from the drawer of full hides. I was able to choose the specific scales I wanted on the strap...

Nice!!! I don’t have that luxury as I am on the west coast . And it’s hard to pick up the nuances of color on a website etc.


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[mongrelnomoad]

Originally Posted by pdnb

Nice!!! I don’t have that luxury as I am on the west coast . And it’s hard to pick up the nuances of color on a website etc.


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I get that. We're really lucky in London to have the boutique here. If you're ever this side of the pond, you should swing by. It's possible to choose the exact shade, the scales, and talk to the strap-makers (they're produced on-site) to nail down any specifics. They're my go-to... Just got a beautiful green ostrich made up in Seiko's awkward size for a vintage KS Chronometer...

[Justindo]

If I were you, I'd keep your Explorer II and add the 1815 Up Down.

[myporsche]

I would go in a different Lange direction and opt for a Saxonia moonphase.

[Sinanamus]

Another vote for the 1815 u/d. When you can get a Lange u/d, true haute horology, I wouldn't consider a Daytona. Your collection is in the big leagues now with the Overseas. Oh, and I agree with others about never selling the 16570! The up down will be super versatile, but also a dress watch which would be perfect in your collection.

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