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TimeToGo · 28 April 2009, 06:34 PM

L.C. is not going to like this one..

ktbtst( 0 )

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Watch-GMT-...3A2%7C294%3A50
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idk01 · 28 April 2009, 07:15 PM

Content from Bernard watch and Co - http://www.bernardwatch.com/list.cfm...eID=21&HiRes=1

Picture looks like Melrose jewelers, I'll be back with confirmation in a sec :-)

idk01 · 28 April 2009, 07:21 PM

Confirmation is here :-)

http://www.melrosejewelers.com/conte..._master_ii.htm

TimeToGo · 28 April 2009, 09:07 PM

To the CAN!

tudorman8276 · 28 April 2009, 09:35 PM

...in the CAN.

Stan.

idk01 · 28 April 2009, 10:48 PM

Awesome guys, its gone

This listing (330325944110) has been removed or is no longer available

TimeToGo · 29 April 2009, 10:01 PM

ONE MORE TIME!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mens-Watch_W0QQi...A11%7C294%3A50

idk01 · 29 April 2009, 11:17 PM

Oh No!!!! I saw this post pop back up, I so didn't want to press to open, now its depressed :-( who's in the can throwing these back out.

fusebuddy · 30 April 2009, 01:56 AM

Once again, newbie here. How do these listings get removed? Are you reporting them to ebay? If so, that's awsome.

thomlee814 · 30 April 2009, 02:04 AM

New member here. Just a question.

You are saying the watch is fake because they cut and paste a stock picture from a different website? Not everyone has a digital camera. Not trying to argue but just want to know your opinion.

I want to buy a rolex and as a first time buyer I need all the info possible.

Noonan · 30 April 2009, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomlee814

New member here. Just a question.

You are saying the watch is fake because they cut and paste a stock picture from a different website? Not everyone has a digital camera. Not trying to argue but just want to know your opinion.

I want to buy a rolex and as a first time buyer I need all the info possible.

Would you be willing to buy a multi-thousand dollar item from a seller who can't provide a picture of it? I'm assuming that anyone who can afford a Rolex can also afford a cheap camera of some type. Doesn't mean they're always fakes but I'd question any listing without actual pictures of the item.

thomlee814 · 30 April 2009, 02:14 AM

I hear ya...I wouldn't even buy from someone that doesn't post pictures of their own watch.

However it could be a lazy kid from rich parents that just wants to get rid of the watch for some fast cash. Who knows the reason..just wanted input as to why the watch could be fake.

idk01 · 30 April 2009, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noonan

Would you be willing to buy a multi-thousand dollar item from a seller who can't provide a picture of it? I'm assuming that anyone who can afford a Rolex can also afford a cheap camera of some type. Doesn't mean they're always fakes but I'd question any listing without actual pictures of the item.

X2 on that one Noonan, the usual recipe is low or no feedback with zero history or activity and photos poached from high end reputable sellers.

The rule of thumb we work with is would you buy the seller before buying the watch, the description on this listing is bland:

Red and Black Face dial . One owner, have box about 4 years old.

Mens Rolex GMT Master II watch, stainless steel case and bracelet, oyster fliplock bracelet, quickset date, black and red rotatable 24hr bezel, independent 12hr hand allowing simultaneous use of a second time-zone, special oyster case with shoulders to protect the triplock winding crown, synthetic sapphire crystal, and pressure and waterproof to 100 meters.

There is no real information in there other than info that can be plagiarized from googling, no mention of model or even the beginning of a serial with the stock stolen photo its one to avoid, most of the time the watch they would have is sure to be a counterfeit and would be easily picked from photos.

Cheers,

Dave.

idk01 · 30 April 2009, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusebuddy

Once again, newbie here. How do these listings get removed? Are you reporting them to ebay? If so, that's awsome.

Hi Fusebuddy,

We do initiate the reporting of fraudulent/counterfeit listings but it all boils down to the discretion of the folks at eBay. anyone can pop a report on a listing via report this listing at the bottom of the page.

Cheers,

Dave.

thomlee814 · 30 April 2009, 02:30 AM

Question about ebay postings.

I'm interested in a Sub (not sure which one yet) and I'm starting to get nervous about add on bezels on the subs. I noticed you can get different colors and just put them on a black Sub. Is this cause for concern?

I'm interested in the 50th anniversary green sub and worried someone could just add on the green bezel and just sell it for more.

Any help would be appreciated as it seems you know your stuff around ebay. Thanks in advance.

thomlee814 · 30 April 2009, 02:35 AM

When buying from someone (ebay, TRF, websites).. other than an AD how important is it that they have all the papers? Is this a must or is it just not that important. Please advise.

Noonan · 30 April 2009, 02:41 AM

Having papers doesn't mean much in terms of whether or not the watch is 100% original but they usually add a bit to the resale price. It's a personal opinion. I'd have no issues buying one without papers knowing that it's authentic (and I have). Like Dave said, it's all about researching the seller and trusting them first. Once you're comfortable with the seller, then start looking at the watch they're selling.

thomlee814 · 30 April 2009, 02:45 AM

thanks very much noonan. just a bit paranoid because i'll probably buy from a non-AD and absolutly do not want to get hosed.

with that being said who would you recommend to buy from on TRF? Tempo, robrobin, lawrenceb? Please advise.

Noonan · 30 April 2009, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomlee814

with that being said who would you recommend to buy from on TRF? Tempo, robrobin, lawrenceb? Please advise.

All of the above without hesitation!

(and there's many more)

thomlee814 · 30 April 2009, 03:03 AM

Thanks again noonan.

What about this person? Really like the TT Sub in blue.

http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=77545

fusebuddy · 30 April 2009, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idk01

Hi Fusebuddy,

We do initiate the reporting of fraudulent/counterfeit listings but it all boils down to the discretion of the folks at eBay. anyone can pop a report on a listing via report this listing at the bottom of the page.

Cheers,

Dave.

Dave,

Different thread here. Thanks for the advice on that. Great information, I can really see the glaring pionts to avoid.

Steve

onkyo · 30 April 2009, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomlee814

Thanks again noonan.

What about this person? Really like the TT Sub in blue.

http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=77545

Ponycar is a top notch seller.

I have personally bought from him.

Never heard of a problem.

thomlee814 · 30 April 2009, 04:00 AM

thanks for the feedback onkyo. What does "no holes" mean in regards to this watch?

http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=77545

onkyo · 30 April 2009, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomlee814

thanks for the feedback onkyo. What does "no holes" mean in regards to this watch?

http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=77545

No lug holes

onkyo · 30 April 2009, 04:09 AM

Here is an example of lug holes (via google search-- aka not my photo) ....

http://media.photobucket.com/image/l...M_PS800_04.jpg

thomlee814 · 30 April 2009, 04:55 AM

IC. So what is the purpose of the lug holes and do they appear based on the type of rolex model/yr?

idk01 · 30 April 2009, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomlee814

IC. So what is the purpose of the lug holes and do they appear based on the type of rolex model/yr?

Lug holes are just the older design and were gradually phased out from 2002 - 2003.

Cheers,

Dave.

thomlee814 · 30 April 2009, 05:43 AM

Man you guys are the best. I will try and help you out down the road somehow.

onkyo · 30 April 2009, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomlee814

Man you guys are the best. I will try and help you out down the road somehow.

idk01 · 30 April 2009, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onkyo

X2

28 April 2009, 06:34 PM	#1
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,735	Suspect Listing - GMT L.C. is not going to like this one.. ktbtst( 0 ) http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Watch-GMT-...3A2%7C294%3A50 . Attached Images

28 April 2009, 07:15 PM	#2
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Content from Bernard watch and Co - http://www.bernardwatch.com/list.cfm...eID=21&HiRes=1 Picture looks like Melrose jewelers, I'll be back with confirmation in a sec :-) __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

28 April 2009, 07:21 PM	#3
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Confirmation is here :-) http://www.melrosejewelers.com/conte..._master_ii.htm __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

28 April 2009, 09:35 PM	#5
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...FRAUDULENT/SCAM listing... ...in the CAN. Stan.

28 April 2009, 10:48 PM	#6
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Awesome guys, its gone This listing (330325944110) has been removed or is no longer available __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

28 April 2009, 09:07 PM	#4
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,735	To the CAN!

29 April 2009, 10:01 PM	#7
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,735	ONE MORE TIME!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/Mens-Watch_W0QQi...A11%7C294%3A50

29 April 2009, 11:17 PM	#8
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Oh No!!!! I saw this post pop back up, I so didn't want to press to open, now its depressed :-( who's in the can throwing these back out. __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

30 April 2009, 01:56 AM	#9
fusebuddy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Steve Location: Illinois, USA Watch: 16710 GMTII Posts: 387	Once again, newbie here. How do these listings get removed? Are you reporting them to ebay? If so, that's awsome.

30 April 2009, 02:04 AM	#10
thomlee814 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: nj Posts: 21	New member here. Just a question. You are saying the watch is fake because they cut and paste a stock picture from a different website? Not everyone has a digital camera. Not trying to argue but just want to know your opinion. I want to buy a rolex and as a first time buyer I need all the info possible.

30 April 2009, 02:14 AM	#12
thomlee814 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: nj Posts: 21	I hear ya...I wouldn't even buy from someone that doesn't post pictures of their own watch. However it could be a lazy kid from rich parents that just wants to get rid of the watch for some fast cash. Who knows the reason..just wanted input as to why the watch could be fake.

30 April 2009, 02:30 AM	#15
thomlee814 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: nj Posts: 21	Question about ebay postings. I'm interested in a Sub (not sure which one yet) and I'm starting to get nervous about add on bezels on the subs. I noticed you can get different colors and just put them on a black Sub. Is this cause for concern? I'm interested in the 50th anniversary green sub and worried someone could just add on the green bezel and just sell it for more. Any help would be appreciated as it seems you know your stuff around ebay. Thanks in advance.

30 April 2009, 02:35 AM	#16
thomlee814 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: nj Posts: 21	When buying from someone (ebay, TRF, websites).. other than an AD how important is it that they have all the papers? Is this a must or is it just not that important. Please advise.

30 April 2009, 02:41 AM	#17
Noonan Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: US Watch: 3570.50 Posts: 2,156	Having papers doesn't mean much in terms of whether or not the watch is 100% original but they usually add a bit to the resale price. It's a personal opinion. I'd have no issues buying one without papers knowing that it's authentic (and I have). Like Dave said, it's all about researching the seller and trusting them first. Once you're comfortable with the seller, then start looking at the watch they're selling.

30 April 2009, 02:45 AM	#18
thomlee814 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: nj Posts: 21	thanks very much noonan. just a bit paranoid because i'll probably buy from a non-AD and absolutly do not want to get hosed. with that being said who would you recommend to buy from on TRF? Tempo, robrobin, lawrenceb? Please advise.

30 April 2009, 03:03 AM	#20
thomlee814 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: nj Posts: 21	Thanks again noonan. What about this person? Really like the TT Sub in blue. http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=77545

30 April 2009, 04:00 AM	#23
thomlee814 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: nj Posts: 21	thanks for the feedback onkyo. What does "no holes" mean in regards to this watch? http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=77545

30 April 2009, 04:09 AM	#25
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	Here is an example of lug holes (via google search-- aka not my photo) .... http://media.photobucket.com/image/l...M_PS800_04.jpg

30 April 2009, 04:55 AM	#26
thomlee814 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: nj Posts: 21	IC. So what is the purpose of the lug holes and do they appear based on the type of rolex model/yr?

30 April 2009, 05:43 AM	#28
thomlee814 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: nj Posts: 21	Man you guys are the best. I will try and help you out down the road somehow.

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