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Bisquitlips · 18 April 2009, 09:05 AM

OK guys, I apologize but.... I have one more newbie question.

Well one more before I ask the next one...!

I see some Rolex dials for sale occasionally that are described as "gilt" which means: –noun - the thin layer of gold or other material applied in gilding.

Why is it I see no evidence of gold on these dials? What are they talking about?

The just look like regular vintage dials to me.

Toxicant · 18 April 2009, 09:44 AM

The lettering on my 1675 dial is gold. I'm not sure if it is real gold, all I know is that it isn't white

Bisquitlips · 18 April 2009, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toxicant

The lettering on my 1675 dial is gold. I'm not sure if it is real gold, all I know is that it isn't white

That makes sense. So is my YM a gilt dial??

mike · 18 April 2009, 09:53 AM

Means the text is a golden color. Normally associated with vintage gloss dials. Gilt dials went out about 1967 or so.

Bisquitlips · 18 April 2009, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike

Means the text is a golden color. Normally associated with vintage gloss dials. Gilt dials went out about 1967 or so.

Mike,

This dial's text looks white / normal to me.

Were they actually printed in gold? I don't see the golden color in your photo.

Saxon007 · 18 April 2009, 11:58 AM

How about this?

Bisquitlips · 18 April 2009, 01:21 PM

OK.... help me out here.

Where is the gilt on these?

Not trying to be difficult, just learning.

mike · 18 April 2009, 08:51 PM

Let's try this,

white,

gilt,

together,

and compared to a latter 5513,

seantk · 19 April 2009, 02:13 AM

Thanks for posting the question!! Great information! The past few days I have learned Gilt, Patina and Serti

Sean

Bisquitlips · 19 April 2009, 02:45 AM

Ok....

So gilt refers to the golden color it takes on through aging!!!

I am so flammin' thick sometime! Sheesh!

PalmSpringsCaVault · 19 April 2009, 03:12 AM

there is also a "gild" dial refering to the phosperesenesesnssees > ?sp how ever you spell that.

onkyo · 19 April 2009, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bisquitlips

Ok....

So gilt refers to the golden color it takes on through aging!!!

I am so flammin' thick sometime! Sheesh!

Richard,

I believe it was applied gilt (gold)... so always gold.

mike · 19 April 2009, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onkyo

Richard,

I believe it was applied gilt (gold)... so always gold.

Spot on.

C. Davidson · 5 May 2009, 05:46 PM

Great post, thanks to all who shared.

Now I know too.

abr68 · 5 May 2009, 06:37 PM

Hi there,
"Gilt" in this case means the golden printing on the whole dial (crown, letters, hour markers).
You find it on all the earlier beauty Vintage sport models and the most of the are glossy gilt dials.
As you can see in the pictures above you also have some differences between chaptered (ring around the hour markers) and unchaptered dials such as Mike´s.
Hope it helps

Best
Axel

TheDude · 5 May 2009, 10:25 PM

For those of you drooling over the old Sub that Saxon007 posted...

Bill Yao or MkII Watches has a special limited edition project called the "Kingston". It's an homage to the original Bond watch.

http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=227002

...and wouldn't you know, he polled everyone to see what color to make the lume and text...

http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=228771

18 April 2009, 09:05 AM	#1
Bisquitlips 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Richard Location: USA Watch: YM Deep Space Posts: 12,521	Gilt dials?? OK guys, I apologize but.... I have one more newbie question. Well one more before I ask the next one...! I see some Rolex dials for sale occasionally that are described as "gilt" which means: –noun - the thin layer of gold or other material applied in gilding. Why is it I see no evidence of gold on these dials? What are they talking about? The just look like regular vintage dials to me. __________________ Rolex Yacht-Master 40mm (SS-YG / Deep Space MOP) 16623 Breitling Aerospace Titanium / 18K with UTC. Omega Speedmaster 3510.50 Oris TT1 Pro Diver Regulator 43MM

18 April 2009, 09:44 AM	#2
Toxicant "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Ron Location: Maine, USA Posts: 374	The lettering on my 1675 dial is gold. I'm not sure if it is real gold, all I know is that it isn't white __________________ Time is precious, regulate it with class.

18 April 2009, 01:21 PM	#7
Bisquitlips 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Richard Location: USA Watch: YM Deep Space Posts: 12,521	OK.... help me out here. Where is the gilt on these? Not trying to be difficult, just learning. __________________ Rolex Yacht-Master 40mm (SS-YG / Deep Space MOP) 16623 Breitling Aerospace Titanium / 18K with UTC. Omega Speedmaster 3510.50 Oris TT1 Pro Diver Regulator 43MM

19 April 2009, 02:13 AM	#9
seantk "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Sean Location: West Florida Posts: 2,671	Thanks for posting the question!! Great information! The past few days I have learned Gilt, Patina and Serti Sean __________________ "Life is frittered away with detail... simplify, simplify!" Henry D. Thoreau

19 April 2009, 02:45 AM	#10
Bisquitlips 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Richard Location: USA Watch: YM Deep Space Posts: 12,521	Ok.... So gilt refers to the golden color it takes on through aging!!! I am so flammin' thick sometime! Sheesh! __________________ Rolex Yacht-Master 40mm (SS-YG / Deep Space MOP) 16623 Breitling Aerospace Titanium / 18K with UTC. Omega Speedmaster 3510.50 Oris TT1 Pro Diver Regulator 43MM

18 April 2009, 09:53 AM	#4
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Means the text is a golden color. Normally associated with vintage gloss dials. Gilt dials went out about 1967 or so.

18 April 2009, 11:58 AM	#6
Saxon007 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 2,002	How about this?

18 April 2009, 08:51 PM	#8
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Let's try this, white, gilt, together, and compared to a latter 5513,

19 April 2009, 03:12 AM	#11
PalmSpringsCaVault Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: palm springs CA Watch: Plat.118296DayDate Posts: 192	there is also a "gild" dial refering to the phosperesenesesnssees > ?sp how ever you spell that.

5 May 2009, 05:46 PM	#14
C. Davidson "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: WXSW Watch: GMT (116710) Posts: 2,723	Great post, thanks to all who shared. Now I know too. __________________ -Cheers, Chris #15,634 "The heart of the discerning acquires knowledge; the ears of the wise seek it out."

5 May 2009, 06:37 PM	#15
abr68 Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Axel Location: Germany Watch: view my signature Posts: 612	Hi there, "Gilt" in this case means the golden printing on the whole dial (crown, letters, hour markers). You find it on all the earlier beauty Vintage sport models and the most of the are glossy gilt dials. As you can see in the pictures above you also have some differences between chaptered (ring around the hour markers) and unchaptered dials such as Mike´s. Hope it helps Best Axel

5 May 2009, 10:25 PM	#16
TheDude "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: DC Area, USA Watch: IIc,1680 Red,16660 Posts: 4,492	For those of you drooling over the old Sub that Saxon007 posted... Bill Yao or MkII Watches has a special limited edition project called the "Kingston". It's an homage to the original Bond watch. http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=227002 ...and wouldn't you know, he polled everyone to see what color to make the lume and text... http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=228771

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