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Old 30 July 2021, 08:40 AM   #1
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Rolex Fake wishlist, list, register, etc.?

When you go into the AD for a rolex model, they tell you "they don't have it", "everything is allocated to special customers" and then offer to take your information down on some wishlist, list, register, etc.,

How do you even know they just don't throw out the piece of paper afterward?
Do the names and phone numbers go into a computerized database?

I am assuming you just have to believe them. It would make them look like complete dirtbags if they just pretend to take down info but they given the current state of rolex, they don't really need extra customers.
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Old 30 July 2021, 08:50 AM   #2
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Well, I think if you really want the piece and build a genuine relationship with your AD I think you should get to know your AD and visit them once in a while to show that you are genuinely passionate about collecting watches. This will only keep you on their true list.

AD confronts a lot of people a day both in person and phone inquiring about highly desirable watches and they know exactly if you are genuinely interested in the watch or a quick flip.
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Old 30 July 2021, 08:52 AM   #3
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You can probably set your expectations to the same level a person would have had telling their 1980s East German supermarket clerk to give him a call when the next batch of bananas arrive.
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Old 30 July 2021, 08:53 AM   #4
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Well, I think if you really want the piece and build a genuine relationship with your AD I think you should get to know your AD and visit them once in a while to show that you are genuinely passionate about collecting watches. This will only keep you on their true list.

AD confronts a lot of people a day both in person and phone inquiring about highly desirable watches and they know exactly if you are genuinely interested in the watch or a quick flip.
I feel like they seem to be suspicious of everyone nowadays making it even harder to get popular pieces. And the ADs outright say that they prefer existing customers and not new ones.
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Old 30 July 2021, 08:54 AM   #5
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When you go into the AD for a rolex model, they tell you "they don't have it", "everything is allocated to special customers" and then offer to take your information down on some wishlist, list, register, etc.,

How do you even know they just don't throw out the piece of paper afterward?
Do the names and phone numbers go into a computerized database?

I am assuming you just have to believe them. It would make them look like complete dirtbags if they just pretend to take down info but they given the current state of rolex, they don't really need extra customers.
Totally depends on which AD, they all seem to do it just a little different.

I did have one experience where I was placed on the "waiting list", followed up for a couple years and then was told on the 3rd year that I was in fact not on the "waiting list" but that I had been placed on the "wish list". It was quite laughable when I found that out.

One other AD placed me on a "waiting list" and just never honoured it, totally forgot about it.

A couple other AD's actually called me and offered the watches I was waiting for (funny enough outside of my city).

Best advice is to shop around and feel out multiple AD's.
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Old 30 July 2021, 09:15 AM   #6
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I feel like they seem to be suspicious of everyone nowadays making it even harder to get popular pieces. And the ADs outright say that they prefer existing customers and not new ones.
I understand the some ADs prefer their existing customers since they can't even fulfill their existing customer's order at the moment.
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Old 30 July 2021, 09:27 AM   #7
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I understand the some ADs prefer their existing customers since they can't even fulfill their existing customer's order at the moment.
In a way, rolex has created their own form of discrimination. While certain jewelers were subtle in the discriminating ways before whether it be by the way someone dressed, color of skin, ethnicity, locality, etc. Now they have any excuse to discriminate with the rolex shortage as their shield.

During my quest for rolexes, Just because you live in a different city, one AD uses this as criteria whether to sell to you or not.

You learn a lot about the world and people just through rolex.

All classes of people can buy rolexes and everybody should be able to. But there is a new barrier to this accessibility.
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Old 30 July 2021, 09:48 AM   #8
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How do you even know they just don't throw out the piece of paper afterward?
Depends on the AD, your relationship with them and what a "waiting list" actually is.

If I believed an AD was taking my name to get me out of the shop, then throwing in the bin, I would be binning them.

My AD does not have static waiting lists. They are dynamic, revised often and are more complicated than a piece of paper or spreadsheet with a column of names on it. But they are real . If I'm on a list I will get a watch when my turn comes. I have watches in my collection which attest to this. They don't take names or do registers of interest. If they can't list you, you won't get the watch.

I have known them for 25 years. In order to develop a relationship with an AD you need to buy things from them. This is why we know ours so well. And occasionally, it pays off. How much business you give them will have a bearing on which hot goods they sell you. This stands to reason, particularly in a high demand/low supply environment. It's how businesses stay in business.
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Old 30 July 2021, 09:51 AM   #9
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All classes of people can buy rolexes and everybody should be able to.
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Old 30 July 2021, 10:04 AM   #10
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I find it way better to just never go into an AD when there’s a a Rolex model I really want.

There was a time where I loved going in and looking and asking, and buying. But no more. Now I like deciding what I want and buying it from someone who can actually sell it to me right away.


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Old 30 July 2021, 10:22 AM   #11
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If you do not have a relationship with an AD already, IE: previous watch or jewelry purchases you will not be placed on a REAL list... very hard to pick up a piece without some sort of connect.. there are way too many buyers out there right now ahead of you on the pecking order..

Having said that if you are willing to put the time in and demonstrate the AD that you are a desirable buyer to sell to.. Ie: passionate about the brand, future potential purchases especially jewelry, not a flipper, attend AD often to show your face and many other factors you can then be put on a REAL list and hopefully get lucky..

I called many AD's and was put on a "list" and never received a call back... bought a DSSD and small jewelry purchase (and luck) and was put on a "Real" list and picked up a CHNR 4 months later.. now hopefully I'm on a real list for a BLNR or BLRO
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There is no right answer. It's situational.
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Old 30 July 2021, 02:49 PM   #15
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The fact is you’ll never know and it’s based on good faith. I’ve never had a “call” on an in demand model but others have so have to keep hoping it’ll happen one day. It’s easier to be patient if you have a solid collection already but if just starting out I can imagine how frustrating it is. Keep trying is the answer and sooner or later your gonna get a hit!!
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Old 30 July 2021, 04:05 PM   #16
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When you go into the AD for a rolex model, they tell you "they don't have it", "everything is allocated to special customers" and then offer to take your information down on some wishlist, list, register, etc.,

How do you even know they just don't throw out the piece of paper afterward?
Do the names and phone numbers go into a computerized database?

I am assuming you just have to believe them. It would make them look like complete dirtbags if they just pretend to take down info but they given the current state of rolex, they don't really need extra customers.
I'm sure every AD operates differently. Where I'm located, I've visited many ADs here in the past few years; spoken with many of the SAs there and they all took my information, some via a piece of paper, some have a tablet where I can digitally fill out my information.

Having only ever purchased a DJ in 2012 though, I am pretty much considered a no-spend history, so it isn't to my surprise that I was never offered anything I wished for.

The way I see it, it doesn't matter whether they keep your information or not, you just have to have spend history in order for them to consider you at all.
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Old 30 July 2021, 04:17 PM   #17
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When you go into the AD for a rolex model, they tell you "they don't have it", "everything is allocated to special customers" and then offer to take your information down on some wishlist, list, register, etc.,

How do you even know they just don't throw out the piece of paper afterward?
Do the names and phone numbers go into a computerized database?

I am assuming you just have to believe them. It would make them look like complete dirtbags if they just pretend to take down info but they given the current state of rolex, they don't really need extra customers.
ADs will get dozens of newbies a DAY trying to join lists for Pepsi GMTs and steel Daytona’s.
I have zero doubt that many of these get filed into the trash
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Old 30 July 2021, 04:20 PM   #18
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I know they don’t throw anything because when I come back, they can tell me which model and how long I have been waiting. Also, I know they don’t throw anything away because I do get calls to come pick up the model I’ve registered interest for.

However I would agree that it is very possible some ADs throw your info away. I went to Omega for the 321 and I am pretty sure if I went back, they would have no idea who I was and what I want.
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Old 30 July 2021, 07:06 PM   #19
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AD's are AD's, they are there to profit nothing more nothing less. If your a frequent buyer then, of course, they'll ring you whenever they have something they think you'll like and they can sell you. I get on well with an AD near me, but only for that reason. If he heard I'd gone bankrupt he'd never ring me to offer his sympathies, unless he thought h could take a watch off my hands at a steal.
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Old 30 July 2021, 10:36 PM   #20
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Im in the same boat with ya. I go in they take my info. I check in with them from time to time. Havent been offered anything yet. I will probably succumb to the grey market.
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Old 30 July 2021, 11:04 PM   #21
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I don't believe there is an actual "waitlist". The AD either likes you or they don't...and they will either get you your watch if they do or totally blow you off if they don't.
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Old 31 July 2021, 04:06 AM   #22
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I remember in late 2017 I went to 5-6 different ADs telling them i wanted the batman.
Each of them gave me a fancy paper told me to write my name, email, phone number.
None of them ever called.
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