Now I understand AD frustration

[teck21]

Originally Posted by TheVision

Zero purchase history and I never promised AD about future purchases or spending another $10k at their jewelry section.

Disclaimer: Mgr does have his close relatives working in the same hospital as me so not sure if that made it a "common ground".

I would regard that as a big In with the AD really.

They might take care of you since your hospital connections have made you part of ‘me and mine’ to them.

It’s just human nature.

First the relatives, friends then the big VIPs, lesser VIPs and down all the way to a walk in whose face nobody knows and whose purchasing power and desires are uncertain.


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[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by 330ci

A quick Google search tells me the average age of a Rolex owner right now is 68, that gives the average male Rolex owner about 9 more years of life. I'm 27, by the time most of these collectors start dying off ill be 36.

Sorry to break it to you, but average male life expectancy at 69 is 15 years. Add the fact that Rolex owners skew towards various factors that increase life expectancy, and you may have to wait until you're 47

[Eric-London]

Originally Posted by FL23833

I would come back with my cousin to surprise her for her 50th and let her go on a $3k shopping spree.

I stopped reading after $3 grand shopping spree

[grimps]

Originally Posted by shaunylw

Obviously they are correct. If i owned an AD with customers that had that kind of spend, they are the only people i would sell stainless watches to. As long as they keep spending.

Very odd way to treat a customer though. i imagine you won’t be super motivated to spend more money with them.


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I think they also remember the guys that were buying Rolex before all the hype of the last few years , people that bought a watch a year for the last 10 years from the same AD will still be able to get the hot models before someone walking in with 50k to spend

[Mini2]

Originally Posted by grimps

I think they also remember the guys that were buying Rolex before all the hype of the last few years , people that bought a watch a year for the last 10 years from the same AD will still be able to get the hot models before someone walking in with 50k to spend

Totally agree
New faces to the party will be looked after with spend but faces that were there before will not have to play them games to be looked after

[Brny11]

3K lol. I have spent 15k at my AD and fully understand that is like the 50-70 percentile and in no way gets me close to “hot” watches. Fortunately for me I have the watches I want. Unfortunately for you, reality will soon set in that 30-50k is likely the starting point for establishing your relationship. Or a ton of luck.

[Tanalasta]

Originally Posted by Brny11

3K lol. I have spent 15k at my AD and fully understand that is like the 50-70 percentile and in no way gets me close to “hot” watches. Fortunately for me I have the watches I want. Unfortunately for you, reality will soon set in that 30-50k is likely the starting point for establishing your relationship. Or a ton of luck.

Spending the current market grey rate for a 'hot watch' on non-Rolex items would be closer to the mark. Hence why some people just skip the shopping spree and go 'grey'. Unless you had other items you wanted concurrently.

[Baco Noir]

Originally Posted by Baco Noir

Not being brutal but your expectations are out of line as is your approach. Building a relationship is about going in frequently, talking watches and seeing if you connect with someone. Once they get to know you are a real enthusiast, you “may” have an opening, but they probably have a lot of others with long term relationships ahead of you.

For the OP, I stand by my initial statement and here’s some proof. A friend of mine stopped in an AD near his house two years ago with his wife and talked to a sales associate and the owner about wanting to get a BLNR as a marker for when all the kids were out of the house and off to college. The AD told him they would put him on their call list, but it might take a few years. He checked in a couple times a year (stopping in and calling), and just a few weeks ago, got the call!

[MiDoon]

Originally Posted by TheDapperYank

Oh boy there's a lot to digest here. If I were an AD and you just walked in and rattled off a list of demands to me I probably would have told you no as well.

It's like the opening scene of 300 where you just busted into Sparta demanding that they join your empire and pay tribute so you got kicked down a well, lol

This made me go to YouTube to watch that opening again because it is that good.

"Remember in Sparta even a King's messenger is held accountable for the words of his voice."

Earth and Water, Bwahahahaha!

[watchaser]

Tough crowded but my advise is know what you are getting into and know what you are up against.

[Heimdall]

Are you joking? $3k to get on a list for those watches? Also to come in with a list asking for things seems a bit aggressive for the first time meeting.

[Posh Gentleman]

my advice - go buy an Omega and be happy. or a Zenith.

if u want a rolex Gmt or Daytona. you ain't got a chance with $3k spending "spree".

however i kinda understand where this all comes from. just 4 years ago, i was shopping around several AD's in nyc metro and could easily see a black Sub for sale, in the store. and all the sales staff were eager to grab my attention, asking me to please just try on that damn Sub and consider opening up my wallet.

crazy to think that was just 4 years ago.

u know what's more crazy? used car prices. my uncle sold his Chevy SUV for $20k more than what he paid for 2 years ago, back to the same dealer he bought it from, with over 30k miles.

[Posh Gentleman]

Originally Posted by walkman2727

my AD in CA said to me "why would I sell that blnr to you instead my other customer who spent over 1/4 million dollars in the store, just the past year?"

can't believe a sales rep would tell his clients something like this. this is disgusting..

btw, people that have the means to drop $250k on jewelry / watch store in a year - do these folks even want a SS rolex?

if I was a baller like that, a SS rolex GMT would be the last thing on my mind.

[teck21]

Originally Posted by Posh Gentleman

can't believe a sales rep would tell his clients something like this. this is disgusting..

btw, people that have the means to drop $250k on jewelry / watch store in a year - do these folks even want a SS rolex?

if I was a baller like that, a SS rolex GMT would be the last thing on my mind.

Why such quickness to be outraged?

In the absence of context, it is not absolutely certain that it was disgusting of the SA to say this to the poster.


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[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by Posh Gentleman

can't believe a sales rep would tell his clients something like this. this is disgusting..

btw, people that have the means to drop $250k on jewelry / watch store in a year - do these folks even want a SS rolex?

if I was a baller like that, a SS rolex GMT would be the last thing on my mind.

The Sales Rep was making a genuine point that’s very valid. Big spenders get the pieces over a low spender. They were just being transparent. Places like Harrods in London have people who spend way way into the millions per year.

And yes, big spenders still want SS models. If not for themselves, then for their wife/gf/bf/son/daughter/maid/chauffeur…..

[Posh Gentleman]

Originally Posted by teck21

Why such quickness to be outraged?

In the absence of context, it is not absolutely certain that it was disgusting of the SA to say this to the poster.


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the way this sales rep phrased it - just screams of extreme greed and arrogance.

just not done in good taste, especially for someone supposedly in a "sales" role.

[Posh Gentleman]

Originally Posted by Nairn1980

The Sales Rep was making a genuine point that’s very valid. Big spenders get the pieces over a low spender. They were just being transparent. Places like Harrods in London have people who spend way way into the millions per year.

And yes, big spenders still want SS models. If not for themselves, then for their wife/gf/bf/son/daughter/maid/chauffeur…..

I know some ballers in real life. the top guys at my company clear high seven figures a year.

these guys are into exotic vacations, mansions in the Hamptons, 2nd / 3rd vacation homes in Hawaii, Rolls Royce, private parties on friends' yachts, etc.

a $10k rolex watch does not excite these types of folks, I can tell you.

[Goonthree]

To have that lifestyle better make 8 figures and up.

Originally Posted by Posh Gentleman

I know some ballers in real life. the top guys at my company clear high seven figures a year.

these guys are into exotic vacations, mansions in the Hamptons, 2nd / 3rd vacation homes in Hawaii, Rolls Royce, private parties on friends' yachts, etc.

a $10k rolex watch does not excite these types of folks, I can tell you.

[Finslayer83]

If you tell the AD you want all the hot references you won’t get anywhere.

Next time ask about just one.

A list like that screams “flip” even if you are genuine.

[Goonthree]

Everyone different but my friend don't care for ss so he would sell those and keep the pm watches. They also only buy new and 3k isn't even enough for sales tax on a bag for wife. Ring is 500k+, want new Patek, drop 750k on 7 watches to skip the list on a day.

Originally Posted by Posh Gentleman

can't believe a sales rep would tell his clients something like this. this is disgusting..

btw, people that have the means to drop $250k on jewelry / watch store in a year - do these folks even want a SS rolex?

if I was a baller like that, a SS rolex GMT would be the last thing on my mind.

[Finslayer83]

There is hope OP.

I sent inquiry to an AD at 6:55am. Got a call at 2pm.

We had a 20 min chat, realized I’m a watch junkie - said let me call you back.

5 min later I was told they had a Sub for me.

Drove across the state the next morning to get it.


Good AD’s are out there. Don’t ask for a Daytona.

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by Posh Gentleman

I know some ballers in real life. the top guys at my company clear high seven figures a year.

these guys are into exotic vacations, mansions in the Hamptons, 2nd / 3rd vacation homes in Hawaii, Rolls Royce, private parties on friends' yachts, etc.

a $10k rolex watch does not excite these types of folks, I can tell you.

But as mentioned, they’ll happily give them to their minions