? re the Day-Date hyphens

[miamiclay]

Dries posted this pic in the “Gratuitous” thread here, back in early Sept.

I understand there are/were a very few genuine non-Wide Boy dials without the hyphen in “Day-Date,” but I think this may be only the second photo I’ve seen. (The lume plots and minute track are also unusual for a pie-pan dial.)

Does anyone have any more info about this no-hyphen-DD phenomenon (or have any thoughts on this dial)? E.g., is this only seen on 4-digit references? Are they perhaps service dials?

Dries, if this dial and paint are factory original as far as you know, what serial range is the case?

Originally Posted by Dries

1803

[sem.gilst]

I don’t know. My father has it on his 1803 linen sigma dial. It is a 1975 one.

[FrankCastello]

Refinished dial

[dhknola]

I didn't want to chime in as I am not an expert, but that dial looks funky af, especially certified chronometer text below.

[miamiclay]

I also assumed repaint, but then I wondered who would make the stamp so wrong, and why? It’s not like there are lots, real or repaint, with this quirk.

[CaveDweller]

It's a very rare error re-dial - very few out there ....

[JustinK]

Lots of no hyphen examples out there if you start looking. I agree the dial looks different but the fonts look familiar. No expert on Day Dates but I think it's genuine.

[zapokee]

Originally Posted by JustinK

Lots of no hyphen examples out there if you start looking.

Agree. I've had several 1803s, some with the hyphen and some without. I know they weren't redials.

Have a look at the 1803s on the HQ Milton site as a good resource for examples.

https://www.hqmilton.com/timepieces/search?q=1803

Both types appear there, although non-hyphen is rarer.

Both the hyphen and non-hyphen types definitely came from the factory, but I'm not sure of dates/serial number ranges. Non-hyphen seems to appear more on Wideboys.

[dbhak22]

...to make matters even more complicated/confusing...some DDs also have a hyphen between "OYSTER" and "PERPETUAL":