Why are all chronos so thick except Daytona

[youthagainsttt]

How about piaget polo 45 with a flyback chronograph

[HHIslander]

JLC Polaris Chrono is 11.9 thick. Currently my favorite.

[Ichiran]

The AP 26315 is only 11mm and has a date.

[Momentumwheel]

Originally Posted by HHIslander

JLC Polaris Chrono is 11.9 thick. Currently my favorite.

The Polaris Chrono is a great watch from a respected brand but those seeking a functional equivalent to the Daytona may be disappointed due to the lack of third register. This is the primary reason why I have not acquired a Black Bay Chrono (in addition to its overall thickness).

[-dustin]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Bvlgari

If I ever buy a Bvlgari, I hope you get a cut of the sales. I never paid attention to the brand till I saw your posts.

[Oxfordian]

Originally Posted by jssans

Which is the fattest chrono ? Maybe the Tudor. That watch is a monster.

How about a Planet Ocean Chronograph, isn't that around 16mm?

[thenewrick]

The Daytona movement was a cost cutting exercise from Rolex to get away from purchasing Zenith movements. They're inferior in many ways but they do have a tall power reserve and slimmer case.

The Daytona is due for a movement upgrade soon. It's around 20 years old at this point.

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Reminder.... Bvlgari is 6.9m thin. Also includes GMT complication too.

Here's a pic
https://www.bulgari.com/en-us/103371.html

Peripheral platinum rotor is another league from anything else mentioned here. I couldn't pull off the 43 mm square though. But man it's a museum worthy movement.

[Craigdwh]

What a refreshing thread to find here.

The GP Laureato Chrono is one of the thinnest diving chronos available.



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[ajw45]

Originally Posted by kieselguhr

Nope. The honor of thickest chronograph goes to Grand Seiko at > 16mm thickness


(From ABTW)

It does have dual time function though

that GS needs to bulk up. Porsche Design Indicator P6910 - 19.9mm thick carrying a movement with over 700 parts designed by eterna so probably going to fail sooner rather than later

[Malum]

Because it’s a women’s watch .

[Dougiebaby]

Originally Posted by thenewrick

The Daytona movement was a cost cutting exercise from Rolex to get away from purchasing Zenith movements. They're inferior in many ways but they do have a tall power reserve and slimmer case.

The Daytona is due for a movement upgrade soon. It's around 20 years old at this point.

With respect, you either do not know much about watch movements or _____ (fill in the blank).

#1. Generally speaking, using an outside movement is more cost effective than developing an in house movement. It took Rolex over 5 years to develop the 4130 movement. In no way was that a “cost cutting exercise.”

#2. (Now the lesson begins… ) The 4130 movement is considered one of the greatest chronograph movements created by any watch brand … ever.

Compared to the zenith based 4030 movement, the Rolex 4130 uses a column wheel with vertical clutch (vs lateral clutch used in the zenith).

The 4130 was the first Rolex movement to use the Rolex patented parachrome hairspring and paraflex shock absorbers.

The 4130 movement has 44 jewels vs the 4030’s 31 jewels.

4130 has 72 hour power reserve vs 54 hours.

4130 hacks vs. no hacking on 4030.

And the 4130 does all of this with only 201 total parts (20% fewer than the zenith based movement), is easier to service, and is more reliable - which is an engineering feat.

To any watch aficionado, the 4130 caliber is superior, in almost every way, to the zenith movement.

I am not disparaging the zenith based Daytonas, it’s just that Rolex improved the watch with the introduction of their in house 4130 movement. Whether Rolex changes/improves the movement even further in the Daytona soon, is anyone’s guess.


https://calibercorner.com/rolex-caliber-4130/


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[Santiago32]

The curvy case shape of the Daytona has a lot to do with how thin it looks.

[RolexSimon]

Originally Posted by JRell

Only other chrono I would ever think of is the speedmaster. Other than that, Daytona is the king skinny or fat, small or large, whatever..king

Datograph knocks them all for 6 from a horology perspective. And it looks so cool with that amazing date. Just kicking myself for not buying a Mk 1 at auction for $60 k last year.......

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by Malum

Because it’s a women’s watch .

[Henrimontgomery]

Originally Posted by ajw45

that GS needs to bulk up. Porsche Design Indicator P6910 - 19.9mm thick carrying a movement with over 700 parts designed by eterna so probably going to fail sooner rather than later

LOL! That’s where AP got the inspiration for CODE.

[Roli4life]

Originally Posted by Dougiebaby

With respect, you either do not know much about watch movements or _____ (fill in the blank).

#1. Generally speaking, using an outside movement is more cost effective than developing an in house movement. It took Rolex over 5 years to develop the 4130 movement. In no way was that a “cost cutting exercise.”

#2. (Now the lesson begins… ) The 4130 movement is considered one of the greatest chronograph movements created by any watch brand … ever.

Compared to the zenith based 4030 movement, the Rolex 4130 uses a column wheel with vertical clutch (vs lateral clutch used in the zenith).

The 4130 was the first Rolex movement to use the Rolex patented parachrome hairspring and paraflex shock absorbers.

The 4130 movement has 44 jewels vs the 4030’s 31 jewels.

4130 has 72 hour power reserve vs 54 hours.

4130 hacks vs. no hacking on 4030.

And the 4130 does all of this with only 201 total parts (20% fewer than the zenith based movement), is easier to service, and is more reliable - which is an engineering feat.

To any watch aficionado, the 4130 caliber is superior, in almost every way, to the zenith movement.

I am not disparaging the zenith based Daytonas, it’s just that Rolex improved the watch with the introduction of their in house 4130 movement. Whether Rolex changes/improves the movement even further in the Daytona soon, is anyone’s guess.


https://calibercorner.com/rolex-caliber-4130/


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Well said.

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by Dougiebaby

With respect, you either do not know much about watch movements or _____ (fill in the blank).

#1. Generally speaking, using an outside movement is more cost effective than developing an in house movement. It took Rolex over 5 years to develop the 4130 movement. In no way was that a “cost cutting exercise.”

#2. (Now the lesson begins… ) The 4130 movement is considered one of the greatest chronograph movements created by any watch brand … ever.

Compared to the zenith based 4030 movement, the Rolex 4130 uses a column wheel with vertical clutch (vs lateral clutch used in the zenith).

The 4130 was the first Rolex movement to use the Rolex patented parachrome hairspring and paraflex shock absorbers.

The 4130 movement has 44 jewels vs the 4030’s 31 jewels.

4130 has 72 hour power reserve vs 54 hours.

4130 hacks vs. no hacking on 4030.

And the 4130 does all of this with only 201 total parts (20% fewer than the zenith based movement), is easier to service, and is more reliable - which is an engineering feat.

To any watch aficionado, the 4130 caliber is superior, in almost every way, to the zenith movement.

I am not disparaging the zenith based Daytonas, it’s just that Rolex improved the watch with the introduction of their in house 4130 movement. Whether Rolex changes/improves the movement even further in the Daytona soon, is anyone’s guess.


https://calibercorner.com/rolex-caliber-4130/


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[thenewrick]

I was comparing the Daytona to the current zenith.

Rolex was paying out house for Zenith movements so made the investment then, big spend, to save money by producing in-house long term, savings.

It’s an outdated movement. Whether you wax poetic about old movements or not that’s cool.

I always like the new improvements better. When the next generation comes out soon I’ll become more interested in a Daytona. I just don’t care for the current old movement. To each their own!

What I’m looking for in the Daytona movement update are high beatrate, slimmer design, and retaining the same power reserve. I think it would be really good to see Rolex update their specs to compete with Zeniths latest.

My favorite is the white gold with blue dial

[TimeAZ]

Originally Posted by thenewrick

It’s an outdated movement. Whether you wax poetic about old movements or not that’s cool.

I always like the new improvements better. When the next generation comes out soon I’ll become more interested in a Daytona. I just don’t care for the current old movement. To each their own!

It's only "outdated" when something else comes along that's better. And so far that's a non-issue.

[subprimero]

Probably because most are made by adding a chronograph module onto a base movement that is used for in many different configurations.