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idk01 · 29 May 2009, 11:19 PM

TUDOR by ROLEX Submariner *VINTAGE* 7021/0 Snowflake

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Hi guys, this caught my eye so I had a look, he mentions a serial number but its only 5 digits not 6. opinions?

Here is an used Rolex Tudor Prince Oysterdate Submariner stainless steel divers watch, ref.no. is 7021/0, serial no.is 42309, 100% original & authentic, depth rated at 200m=660ft, watch only no box or paper, the watch overall is in great condition. Case = original stainless steel case body has very light wear with 1 very minor scratch that can barely be seen, no rust or corrosion, all numbers are visable Caseback = original stainless steel caseback has some wear, no rust or corrosion, inner screw thread is good, all factory writing is visable Crystal = original acrylic crystal w/ cyclops is clean with minimal wear. There is one very small nick on the top right of the cyclops Dial = Tudor 100% original snowflake black matte dial is very clean and appears new, tritium marker is still white, signed "T SWISS T" at the bottom Hands = original hands are in good condition without any wear, in good working condition Bezel = original thick font bezel insert is clean with minimal wear, rotating divers bezel is in working condition and can be turned bi-directionally Movement = original Tudor signed automatic movement is in running condition; alternated red / black date wheel turns correctly; was cleaned by licensed rolex dealer 2 years ago and been kept in running condition. Keeps perfect time. Winding crown = original Rolex signed single lock screw down winding crown works perfect, can wind and set time Band = comes with a non rolex band but with original pins. Band is very good quality and looks much like the original TUDOR band

tudorman8276 · 30 May 2009, 02:35 AM

...with a 5 digit ser# (76100).

...I believe that the EARLIEST productions in a particular run had the 5 digit sn's. BESIDES my own, have seen several.

idk01 · 30 May 2009, 02:43 AM

Cheers Stan,

Will have to update my list :-) the ever growing list :-) its funny I seem to be spending more time on Tudors now and enjoying it

diablojota · 30 May 2009, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by idk01

Cheers Stan,

Will have to update my list :-) the ever growing list :-) its funny I seem to be spending more time on Tudors now and enjoying it

Yeah, I'm definitely learning a lot about them as well. Just through this Watch Out section.

I am particularly intrigued by this one. It's stunning with the red date wheel. Although it does look like it may have been overpolished.

tudorman8276 · 30 May 2009, 03:36 AM

...the band pictured is COUNTERFEIT.

LocoNBroko · 30 May 2009, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tudorman8276

...the band pictured is COUNTERFEIT.

Is the assumption made that because the end links are not correct the entire bracelet is counterfeit? Considering there is no picture of the clasp, could it not simply be an aftermarket replacement with no Rolex signature?
I hear this all the time... but I have a genuine 93150 from about 1977 that has aftermarket end links... I just dont see the point in paying $200-$250 for the end links, when perfectly functioning ones can be had for $50.

Im not trying to be confrontational, just trying to understand the reasoning behind calling the bracelet "counterfeit".

TimeToGo · 30 May 2009, 07:14 AM

WOW...

Stan, great eyes to tell the band is FAKE!

tudorman8276 · 30 May 2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LocoNBroko

Is the assumption made that because the end links are not correct the entire bracelet is counterfeit? Considering there is no picture of the clasp, could it not simply be an aftermarket replacement with no Rolex signature?
I hear this all the time... but I have a genuine 93150 from about 1977 that has aftermarket end links... I just dont see the point in paying $200-$250 for the end links, when perfectly functioning ones can be had for $50.

Im not trying to be confrontational, just trying to understand the reasoning behind calling the bracelet "counterfeit".

...and order a set of GENUINE Rolex ends for about $60.00! I just did!

diablojota · 30 May 2009, 04:20 PM

The guy does state that the band is not original and is not a Rolex/Tudor band. He is forthright about this being non-original.

stevemulholland3 · 30 May 2009, 09:25 PM

nice watch..I may just buy it...lol
and then re-sell it of course..he-he-he

idk01 · 30 May 2009, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by stevemulholland3

nice watch..I may just buy it...lol
and then re-sell it of course..he-he-he

Sounds like a plan

Dan Pierce · 30 May 2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by idk01

Cheers Stan,

Will have to update my list :-) the ever growing list :-) its funny I seem to be spending more time on Tudors now and enjoying it

Many of us are, David.

dP

idk01 · 30 May 2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

Many of us are, David.

dP

I have certainly enjoyed shots of yours Dan

Very nice indeed!!!!

onkyo · 31 May 2009, 01:18 AM

I bet you flip that band over and you would see a Rolex crown..... (and why it is shown clasp down)

Tudors are awesome.

Terry Newton · 31 May 2009, 07:23 AM

I had an issue with the band.

1Thunder1 · 3 June 2009, 10:39 PM

Why an issue with the band when the seller states it is not original/

Also his post was cleaned up and states the serial is 742309

Sold for $2200???

29 May 2009, 11:19 PM	#1
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	*TUDOR by ROLEX Submariner VINTAGE* 7021/0 Snowflake / Steve M, Orchi?** TUDOR by ROLEX Submariner VINTAGE 7021/0 Snowflake travisaholder ( 2 ) Hi guys, this caught my eye so I had a look, he mentions a serial number but its only 5 digits not 6. opinions? Here is an used Rolex Tudor Prince Oysterdate Submariner stainless steel divers watch, ref.no. is 7021/0, serial no.is 42309, 100% original & authentic, depth rated at 200m=660ft, watch only no box or paper, the watch overall is in great condition. Case = original stainless steel case body has very light wear with 1 very minor scratch that can barely be seen, no rust or corrosion, all numbers are visable Caseback = original stainless steel caseback has some wear, no rust or corrosion, inner screw thread is good, all factory writing is visable Crystal = original acrylic crystal w/ cyclops is clean with minimal wear. There is one very small nick on the top right of the cyclops Dial = Tudor 100% original snowflake black matte dial is very clean and appears new, tritium marker is still white, signed "T SWISS T" at the bottom Hands = original hands are in good condition without any wear, in good working condition Bezel = original thick font bezel insert is clean with minimal wear, rotating divers bezel is in working condition and can be turned bi-directionally Movement = original Tudor signed automatic movement is in running condition; alternated red / black date wheel turns correctly; was cleaned by licensed rolex dealer 2 years ago and been kept in running condition. Keeps perfect time. Winding crown = original Rolex signed single lock screw down winding crown works perfect, can wind and set time Band = comes with a non rolex band but with original pins. Band is very good quality and looks much like the original TUDOR band __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

30 May 2009, 02:35 AM	#2
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...I have seen and OWN one... ...with a 5 digit ser# (76100). ...I believe that the EARLIEST productions in a particular run had the 5 digit sn's. BESIDES my own, have seen several.

30 May 2009, 02:43 AM	#3
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Cheers Stan, Will have to update my list :-) the ever growing list :-) its funny I seem to be spending more time on Tudors now and enjoying it __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

30 May 2009, 03:36 AM	#5
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...it should be noted... ...the band pictured is COUNTERFEIT.

30 May 2009, 04:20 PM	#9
diablojota "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Real Name: Frank Location: Chattanooga, TN Watch: SS Submariner Date Posts: 4,042	The guy does state that the band is not original and is not a Rolex/Tudor band. He is forthright about this being non-original. __________________ RTFT - Read The Friggin' Thread FcB

30 May 2009, 07:14 AM	#7
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,735	WOW... Stan, great eyes to tell the band is FAKE!

30 May 2009, 09:25 PM	#10
stevemulholland3 Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: steven Location: tampa bay Watch: 1680 18k sub Posts: 6,672	nice watch..I may just buy it...lol and then re-sell it of course..he-he-he

31 May 2009, 01:18 AM	#14
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	I bet you flip that band over and you would see a Rolex crown..... (and why it is shown clasp down) Tudors are awesome.

31 May 2009, 07:23 AM	#15
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	I had an issue with the band. __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

3 June 2009, 10:39 PM	#16
1Thunder1 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Posts: 144	Why an issue with the band when the seller states it is not original/ Also his post was cleaned up and states the serial is 742309 Sold for $2200???

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