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Old 28 March 2022, 06:14 PM   #61
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The snowflake hand isn't meant to look good, it was designed in the 1960s in collaboration with French Navy divers, who found the smaller mercedes hands, which Rolex first used in the 1930s on dress watches, didn't hold enough lume to be sufficiently legible under water.
Thank you for the info I often wondered why they were like that. Correct on the other post. You were not expressing your opinion about the hands just giving why they were like that.
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Old 28 March 2022, 06:55 PM   #62
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I've Sub 41 and BB58 black. They are similar in certain way but that's about it.

The Oyster bracelet in Sub 41 is way better than the one in BB58 in both the finish and the feeling on my wrist. Not to mention Glidelock is so convenient. When Sub 41 on my wrist, I feel almost nothing -- so comfortable. But when BB58 is on my wrist (w/ SS braclet), I would like to shop for a 3rd party bracelet replacement.
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Old 28 March 2022, 06:58 PM   #63
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Just providing some info/reasoning for the guy, not trying to make him like it.
And accurate information it is.
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Old 29 March 2022, 11:37 PM   #64
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Depends on the yardstick you're using to determine 'as good as.'

If you're talking purely watch stuff, like, you know, movement, power reserve, accuracy, durability, reliability, well, to put it bluntly, there are several Tudors I wouldn't mind owning (and do actually) right alongside their Rolex cousins.

The one knock I would make on Tudor is the last of adjustability in the clasp of the BB line. If they ever fix that, well, that would be interesting.
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Old 31 March 2022, 07:04 AM   #65
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Pelagos

The rest.... all just variations of the tired old "snowflake" theme
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Old 31 March 2022, 07:33 AM   #66
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I have never been diving and I don't have problems with visibility with the mercedes
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Old 31 March 2022, 07:39 AM   #67
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Not without a micro adjustment
I have the BB58 bronze with 8mm micro adjustment and milled clasp.
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Old 31 March 2022, 08:22 AM   #68
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Since many people think Tudor look good on photo and understated on Wrist

Do you think any Tudor Model can be considered as good as Rolex level ?
Only the Pelagos line. Its clasp is next level good. Very high level materials and finishing. Too bad so many Black Bay options and not more modern references from Tudor. The North Flag was pretty incredible too.
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Old 31 March 2022, 08:22 AM   #69
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Old 31 March 2022, 08:50 AM   #70
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In my humble judgement, Tudor has become far more interesting than Rolex.

I have enough Rolex watches, so pursuing Tudor and other brands is quite refreshing and there's a lot less weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth.

I do feel for those who are just getting into the hobby, though.
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Old 31 March 2022, 09:22 AM   #71
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Pelagos.
Cleverest diver from Rolex/Tudor family
Agree!
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Old 31 March 2022, 10:38 AM   #72
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Pelagos

The rest.... all just variations of the tired old "snowflake" theme

What about the tired old “Mercedes” theme…


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Old 31 March 2022, 10:59 AM   #74
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Exactly. The Mercedes hand (1930s) is about 30 years older than the Snowflake hand (1960s).
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