Rolex 1803 - guaranty typo question

[gbogus09]

Hi all. First time poster here. I've been on the hunt for an 1803 and came across an example I like. The watch comes with papers, but I noticed that the guaranty has a typo ("Date of ourchase" instead of "Date of purchase") - screenshot attached. Should this be a red flag, or an admissible error for early 1970s papers? Thanks so much for the help.

[Chewbacca]

Welcome.

Never seen this.

Can we get a pic of the entire document? Just black out anything personal.

[gbogus09]

Thanks for the quick reply. Attached is the full guaranty photo I got from the seller (with serial number and jeweler redacted). Also attaching the chronometre attestation, again just with the serial number redacted.

Based on my online research (Rolex Haven), the documents resemble the Rolex formats from 1970, whereas the serial number tracks to 1972.

[gbogus09]

*now with photos attached (sorry, still getting the hang of the forum and had to re-size).

[Chewbacca]

Several typos. My gut says it’s a fake replacement certificate but it doesn’t mean your watch is fake.

[gbogus09]

That makes sense and my feeling as well. Thanks again for the quick responses and the gut-check. Great first experience as a poster!

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by gbogus09

That makes sense and my feeling as well. Thanks again for the quick responses and the gut-check. Great first experience as a poster!

You’re most welcome and I’m happy you had a great experience.

[casadecamporolex]

I’ve a 1503 and 1823 with identical papers-in fact, nearly exact. Not stamped out with a misprinted p, but in every other minuscule detail.
In this specific era of Rolex manufacturing, the likelihood of forged papers was nearly zero.
Different time, different game.
Taking the case back off and verify movement as authentic much more critical. Is bracelet original. Older watches sometimes have been modified to unknowledgeable buyers….swapping out original movements and bracelets with counterfeit.

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by casadecamporolex

I’ve a 1503 and 1823 with identical papers-in fact, nearly exact. Not stamped out with a misprinted p, but in every other minuscule detail.
In this specific era of Rolex manufacturing, the likelihood of forged papers was nearly zero.
Different time, different game.
Taking the case back off and verify movement as authentic much more critical. Is bracelet original. Older watches sometimes have been modified to unknowledgeable buyers….swapping out original movements and bracelets with counterfeit.

There’s a modern cottage industry remanufacturing vintage Rolex (and others) papers. The clear numerous spelling errors and syntax in the OPs are giveaways. I doubt Rolex would sign off on anything this bad.

[Gobee]

The watch was made in Genevra according to the paper…

[gbogus09]

Originally Posted by Gobee

The watch was made in Genevra according to the paper…

Good catch! I was so put off by the "ourchase" that I missed all of the other typos.

[Andad]

There is zero chance that the document is genuine?

[minute_man]

Originally Posted by Andad

There is zero chance that the document is genuine?

Zelo

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by gbogus09

Good catch! I was so put off by the "ourchase" that I missed all of the other typos.

If you want to verify, perhaps send a pic to the "Jeweller" who originally sold the watch, to see whether or not there is a record of it?

[padi56]

Originally Posted by gbogus09

Hi all. First time poster here. I've been on the hunt for an 1803 and came across an example I like. The watch comes with papers, but I noticed that the guaranty has a typo ("Date of ourchase" instead of "Date of purchase") - screenshot attached. Should this be a red flag, or an admissible error for early 1970s papers? Thanks so much for the help.

The most important bit is the watch and not a outdated warranty paper as the so called papers are far more easier to fake than the watch. So never rely on these so called papers to prove authenticity of any watch, unless bought from a 100% reliable source.

[joli160]

Originally Posted by minute_man

Zelo

[CedCraig]

I’d run, not walk, from the sale. The papers are almost certainly a forgery. So do you trust buying an expensive watch from a forger, or someone associated with a forger?

If you’ve had a legitimate watchmaker open the watch and confirm an authentic movement you’re probably ok, but the seller is certainly sketchy.

[burnthesehills]

Would be a hard pass for me.

[csaltphoto]

"This form should be filled up at the time of purchase"

Do they really refer to service centers as "Service stations"?

[mac_135]

"Service stations listed at the and of this booklet".... too many strikes for me lol

[AlabamaLawyer1988]

One flag, two flags, three flags, run.

Listen to the forum, don’t do something dumb.

DM


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[ltmgeller]

Hard pass