Should I not buy? What would you do?

[JayBlack]

So I got the call to pick up my order. I have decided to skip it entirely and leave that AD. I've decided if I'm not 100% happy with the purchase I'd rather have the cash than the watch.

The fact its a "highly sought after blah blah" means nothing as I do not flip or resell.
And there one thing that's always more sought after than watches and that's money ;)

Regardless I will put in my order with another AD, and yes I'll go to the bottom of the list, and yes I'll probably pay more due to yearly price hikes and probably have to wait couple more years, so what?

It is what it is, if I'm gonna drop a sh*t load of money on a watch I want my ego flattered like there's no tomorrow. It is just a watch after all, I can't eat it, I can't use it as a work tool, it does not generate any money. It's just and unnecessary luxury.
And so is my ego, unnecessary luxury. So they go hand in hand.

So did I make the right choice ?

[jaySL350]

Originally Posted by mountainjogger

That may well be the case.

OP, you know you have five choices:

1. Start a "relationship" with another AD (big time drag unless you are whale).

2. Make an issue out of it and keep pressing (may ruin the relationship and not work anyways).

3. Forget this reference.

4. Buy on secondary market.

5. Pay the increased price from your AD.

I would give it one more re-think and go with my gut.

The increased price is not the issue here for me. If it was a mistake I would swallow the increased price.

Question is whether I believe they are being honest with me. That does make a difference to me.

This,,,
Right choice for you,,is all that matters,,,
Best of luck getting your JC,,,,

[Bill2e]

Originally Posted by JayBlack

So I got the call to pick up my order. I have decided to skip it entirely and leave that AD. I've decided if I'm not 100% happy with the purchase I'd rather have the cash than the watch.

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So did I make the right choice ?

In a word NO, but you made your choice and should be happy with it. That's really all that matters.

Not sure what the EU price is now or then, but the US Price is $14,150 and the 5% increase would be $700 +/-

Now Rolex only increased pricing to adjust to currency exchange rates.

The Euro is down 9% to the Dollar year to date and Rolex only went up 5%, so in terms of dollars you are actually saving 4%.

Regardless, it your call and if it would always bother you then you made the right decision. However, I suspect this will always bother you even if you get another one. Good Luck and I can't argue with holding your cash.

[Guppydriver]

Originally Posted by JayBlack

So I got the call to pick up my order. I have decided to skip it entirely and leave that AD. I've decided if I'm not 100% happy with the purchase I'd rather have the cash than the watch.

The fact its a "highly sought after blah blah" means nothing as I do not flip or resell.
And there one thing that's always more sought after than watches and that's money ;)

Regardless I will put in my order with another AD, and yes I'll go to the bottom of the list, and yes I'll probably pay more due to yearly price hikes and probably have to wait couple more years, so what?

It is what it is, if I'm gonna drop a sh*t load of money on a watch I want my ego flattered like there's no tomorrow. It is just a watch after all, I can't eat it, I can't use it as a work tool, it does not generate any money. It's just and unnecessary luxury.
And so is my ego, unnecessary luxury. So they go hand in hand.

So did I make the right choice ?

Not if you wanted the watch. You're not going to find it cheaper in the future. You have an admittingly honest AD who I'm sure doesn't want any rumors of them discounting floating around.

Bottom line is, there are no lists. They just keep tabs on who's interested. They allocate watches to who they want, when they want. They liked you enough to have you in mind for a watch you wanted. When they found it is wasn't exactly what you wanted, they procured it for you as soon as they could.

Everyone has their definition of what constitutes immoral behavior that needs to be stood up to with principle, but this is pretty much a nothing burger IMHO.

I do hope you end up with the piece you want and a great buying experience tho OP.

[JayBlack]

Originally Posted by Bill2e

In a word NO, but you made your choice and should be happy with it. That's really all that matters.

Not sure what the EU price is now or then, but the US Price is $14,150 and the 5% increase would be $700 +/-

Now Rolex only increased pricing to adjust to currency exchange
The Euro is down 9% to the Dollar year to date and Rolex only went up 5%, so in terms of dollars you are actually saving 4%.

Regardless, it your call and if it would always bother you then you made the right decision. However, I suspect this will always bother you even if you get another one. Good Luck and I can't argue with holding your cash.

I don't mind the increase, I mind the fact they decided for me I have to pay more so someone else pays less. If it would be going to their pocket , fine. But playing god over my money so someone else gets a break in my hand earned cash, heck no.

That someone isn't a homeless person who needs help, cause the less fortunate don't buy rolex. I got bumped for some other client who can also, just like me afford the increase. So its all a matter of ego at the end. So yeah if they deem him more worthy, they can have him as a client.

Regardless, it essentially boils down to them deciding to take my money and give it to someone else. Well, it's my money and I'll do with it as I please, and if they think they're holding that shiny Rolex sword over my head, they can shove it where the sun don't shine.

And yeah I'm passed, cause I waited for ot a long time. But as a client I deserve a bit of respect.

Honesty is one thing, but saying yeah we f*Ed up and you're gonna pay the bill if u want the watch, that's just plain disrespectful and borders on racketeering. It's our way or else. We'll no one blackmails me. And certainly not for a darn watch.

With regards to the us dollar comparison, as I live in the EU and earn in euros it really doesn't matter to me, its still a loss. I can afford the loss comfortably and not feel ot in my bank account, but I worked for it and paid taxes on it nevertheless. So no one can tell me how and where to pay more or less.

[Gab27]

Originally Posted by JayBlack

So I got the call to pick up my order. I have decided to skip it entirely and leave that AD. I've decided if I'm not 100% happy with the purchase I'd rather have the cash than the watch.

The fact its a "highly sought after blah blah" means nothing as I do not flip or resell.
And there one thing that's always more sought after than watches and that's money ;)

Regardless I will put in my order with another AD, and yes I'll go to the bottom of the list, and yes I'll probably pay more due to yearly price hikes and probably have to wait couple more years, so what?

It is what it is, if I'm gonna drop a sh*t load of money on a watch I want my ego flattered like there's no tomorrow. It is just a watch after all, I can't eat it, I can't use it as a work tool, it does not generate any money. It's just and unnecessary luxury.
And so is my ego, unnecessary luxury. So they go hand in hand.

So did I make the right choice ?

You made the choice that was right for you. That is more important than anything else, IMHO.

At this point, it's in the past now, and it's just a watch.

[rmwill]

Looking for price protection on something that you have yet to purchase?

[JayBlack]

Originally Posted by rmwill

Looking for price protection on something that you have yet to purchase?

No, looking not to pay 6% of someone else's watch.

[harvey]

…you seem to be having a lot of bad luck no?

‘Your’ watch gets allocated in this thread? And in your other thread…you blamed the AD for not honouring the price after there was an increase?

[Bill2e]

Originally Posted by JayBlack

I don't mind the increase, I mind the fact they decided for me I have to pay more so someone else pays less. If it would be going to their pocket , fine. But playing god over my money so someone else gets a break in my hand earned cash, heck no.

That someone isn't a homeless person who needs help, cause the less fortunate don't buy rolex. I got bumped for some other client who can also, just like me afford the increase. So its all a matter of ego at the end. So yeah if they deem him more worthy, they can have him as a client.

Regardless, it essentially boils down to them deciding to take my money and give it to someone else. Well, it's my money and I'll do with it as I please, and if they think they're holding that shiny Rolex sword over my head, they can shove it where the sun don't shine.

And yeah I'm passed, cause I waited for ot a long time. But as a client I deserve a bit of respect.

Honesty is one thing, but saying yeah we f*Ed up and you're gonna pay the bill if u want the watch, that's just plain disrespectful and borders on racketeering. It's our way or else. We'll no one blackmails me. And certainly not for a darn watch.

With regards to the us dollar comparison, as I live in the EU and earn in euros it really doesn't matter to me, its still a loss. I can afford the loss comfortably and not feel ot in my bank account, but I worked for it and paid taxes on it nevertheless. So no one can tell me how and where to pay more or less.

Then why are we still talking about this and why are you still asking for others opinion?

You have made your decision and seem quite happy with it.

I understand you point, but as others have stated there are no true lists.

When the AD is selling you a watch they are selling below market value. Crazy times, but it is what it is. Will it last, who knows. Do I care, not really as I have never sold a watch and it doesn't seem like you would either.

Did the AD offer you anything? I am not sure what they could do in this situation. Timing stinks for sure.

Take care,

Hope you get the one you want one day.

[bluestreak]

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[bluestreak]

The amount of entitlement in this thread is astounding. And if your standing out as entitled in this venue, that’s saying something.

[Chiboy]

If you feel disrespected, and you want to stand up for your principles, then you did what is right for you. It seems like this really sticks in your craw, so perhaps you would always have mixed feelings about the watch, despite it being what you wanted.

[Milhaus]

Originally Posted by Calatrava r

Maybe your SA is too honest with you. LOL.

Lol +1
That’s what I was thinking too.

They could have simplified the story and you’d be none the wiser and happy!

I’d value that honesty and obviously you’ve cultivated a relationship there.

Here’s the thing about wait lists and MSRP: most of us don’t even know what reference we’ll get if / when we get the call, not to mention the price. We accept that.

I picked up my new 136660 today in fact. But I got on the list in 2020 when it was a 126660. Things change.I’ll never know what happened between then and today.
Doesn’t make sense to be petty.

[hello93]

Originally Posted by JayBlack

So I got the call to pick up my order. I have decided to skip it entirely and leave that AD. I've decided if I'm not 100% happy with the purchase I'd rather have the cash than the watch.

The fact its a "highly sought after blah blah" means nothing as I do not flip or resell.
And there one thing that's always more sought after than watches and that's money ;)

Regardless I will put in my order with another AD, and yes I'll go to the bottom of the list, and yes I'll probably pay more due to yearly price hikes and probably have to wait couple more years, so what?

It is what it is, if I'm gonna drop a sh*t load of money on a watch I want my ego flattered like there's no tomorrow. It is just a watch after all, I can't eat it, I can't use it as a work tool, it does not generate any money. It's just and unnecessary luxury.
And so is my ego, unnecessary luxury. So they go hand in hand.

So did I make the right choice ?

Your SA was honest and transparent (which is the best customer service) and your ego couldn't see this. Also your logic makes no sense. You seem to highly value money and youre willing to wait longer and pay more later for the watch? At this point it seems like you want your ego pampered more than the watch.

[JayBlack]

Originally Posted by hello93

Your SA was honest and transparent (which is the best customer service) and your ego couldn't see this. Also your logic makes no sense. You seem to highly value money and youre willing to wait longer and pay more later for the watch? At this point it seems like you want your ego pampered more than the watch.

That's true, I do want my ego pampered. I work hard for this money. That I make enough to comfortably afford high end luxury watches does not mean I do not value my money.
I still remember times I didn't know what and if I was gonna eat the next day and how I'm gonna pay rent. So yes I know the value of money.
And as I work hard for that money and I treat myself to nice things I do not appreciate the "oh he has money he can afford it attitude" some people have.
Each person that has money, someone worked really hard to get it and that work should be respected.

It reminds me of the joke of a socialist going to a ferrari owner and saying aren't you ashamed, with half a million dollars you couldve fed so many starving families, yet you throw it away on a car.

So the driver tells him, well just so you know by buying this car I am supporting a lot of families, the family of the engineer who engineered the car and the family of the guy who designed it, all their assistants and all the people in charge of transporting the car from the factory to me, all the people who invested in the company, the families of all the people who work for the suppliers of that company. Me buying this car supports all of them. So no I'm not ashamed.

In comparison here all ik saying is just because I can afford doesn't mean I need to take it laying down and pay up. I believe if a company (this case AD) messes up they need to own it. Regardless of whether or not they did right by telling me.

If I Rob a place and I do it so perfectly that the police will never catch me. But I go into the station and confess I did it. You think they're gonna let me go ? Of course not. The judge may take into account I confessed but I'm getting punished regardless. And all my screaming of "if I wouldn't have told you you would never know" will not get me off the hook.
I messed up by confessing. So own up to your mess.

Same here., shouldn't have told me, but did. You made a mistake, own up to it. Simple as that.

[DJH1977]

You seem to think you are the only person on the planet who works hard to buy things. In any case, I assure you no other person including your AD has thought as much about it as you have.

[Bill2e]

You should have taken the 12 when offered. Many say it’s a better watch.

Or you could have taken the SD43 which is no doubt a better watch. Or you could scrap it all and get the Deep Sea Challenge for the oh ahh flex factor. Or you could wait for the Skydweller Blue which is a beautiful watch with a cool (but useless) movement. Yes, I want one too. Just don’t see the need for the month compilation. Of course this hobby doesn’t have much to do about need.

Or course you could skip all those and get an AP or PP. Choices are everywhere, bottom line is you don’t know what you want and are enjoying the attention.

The entitled post above is spot on.

My guess is deep down you know you screwed up and are trying to justify.

At the end of the day, screwing up and keeping 15K in your pocket is not the worst thing. Definitely a first world problem.

Regardless, this has been a entertaining thread so thanks for keeping it going. Can’t wait to see your “Incoming” post.

[JoeJoeBobo]

It way less expensive just ask someone the time when not either in your car on your phone or in front of computer…bet!

[JayBlack]

Originally Posted by DJH1977

You seem to think you are the only person on the planet who works hard to buy things. In any case, I assure you no other person including your AD has thought as much about it as you have.

I surely don't think I'm the only one that works hard. But I am the only one that will look out for me. No one gives a rats S about me, I know that. Besides family and true friends no one would care if I dropped dead tomorrow, no one on this forum and no AD or SA. Same goes for any other member here.
So yeah I appreciate MY work, no one else does or ever will. Just like no one appreciated the time an effort you put into your work. They just see the results and the money it makes. But you know what you have to do day in day out to bring home the bacon. So you appreciate you.
And you may have missed it in my post but I did say ALL HARD WORK SHOULD BE RESPECTED . And I meant mine and everyone else's.

[JayBlack]

Originally Posted by Bill2e

You should have taken the 12 when offered. Many say it’s a better watch.

Or you could have taken the SD43 which is no doubt a better watch. Or you could scrap it all and get the Deep Sea Challenge for the oh ahh flex factor. Or you could wait for the Skydweller Blue which is a beautiful watch with a cool (but useless) movement. Yes, I want one too. Just don’t see the need for the month compilation. Of course this hobby doesn’t have much to do about need.

Or course you could skip all those and get an AP or PP. Choices are everywhere, bottom line is you don’t know what you want and are enjoying the attention.

The entitled post above is spot on.

My guess is deep down you know you screwed up and are trying to justify.

At the end of the day, screwing up and keeping 15K in your pocket is not the worst thing. Definitely a first world problem.

Regardless, this has been a entertaining thread so thanks for keeping it going. Can’t wait to see your “Incoming” post.

1) thank you for following my threads. Appreciated.

2) I know a lot of ppl say the 12 is better but I'm in the minority and like the 13 more. Newer is better mentality I guess.

3) yeah the blue skydweller is my grail at the moment and useless as it may be, it's just an engineering marvel. Which color do you covet ?

4) not looking to add AP or PP to collection now. While I may be able to get an AP, I can only dream about a PP at retail lol.

5) if the DSC was any sort of wearable I would go up from the deepsea to the DSC, but from posted pics it just looks like ot belongs on a wall and not on a wrist. Maybe one day I'll add one but for now I prefer stuff I can wear.

6) never said I don't feel entitled, 15k on a piece of metal with some screws a dial and some hands. Heck yeah I'm gonna act entitled. I'm gonna be a diva prima Donna all the way. That's a sh*tload of money for a watch. (Maybe not for ppl on this forum but for normal ppl). In some places in the world u can buy an apartment for that kinda money. A dacia sanders costs 30% less than that watch and some people take out a loan to buy that.
So yes if I buy luxury I demand and expect the full luxury.experience. or I'll just buy a 5 dollar quarts watch that keeps time better than a Rolex.

7) I don't feel I screwed up, just sucks to have to go to the bottom of the list again and wait. I was already imagining myself at the beach with it this summer, how cool that would look. So yeah I'm bummed. And I know I'm probably not gonna have one from an AD by next summer so.

But to sum it all up, like you said. First world problems.

[Bill2e]

1) thank you for following my threads. Appreciated.



2) I know a lot of ppl say the 12 is better but I'm in the minority and like the 13 more. Newer is better mentality I guess.

Cool, you should definitely not settle and get what you want.

3) yeah the blue skydweller is my grail at the moment and useless as it may be, it's just an engineering marvel. Which color do you covet ?

Blue. It’s drop dead gorgeous. I tried looking at the Blue Date Just, I figured same color. Same look. 5K cheaper is a no brainer however, tried both on and the Skydweller is so much more. I would always feel like I was settling so the SD went in the list. Who knows how long the wait will be, but I am in no hurry. I want them all

I also go back and forth as to what I want next when in reality I have all I need.

4) not looking to add AP or PP to collection now. While I may be able to get an AP, I can only dream about a PP at retail lol.

Yeah - I love the Aquanaut, but out of reach. Sounder how long the wait would be to get at retail. Even then, it’s a big spend.

5) if the DSC was any sort of wearable I would go up from the deepsea to the DSC, but from posted pics it just looks like ot belongs on a wall and not on a wrist. Maybe one day I'll add one but for now I prefer stuff I can wear.

I think I could wear it, I have a 50MM U-Boat, but for the price I’d rather get a DSSD and either an LV sub or BLNR

6) never said I don't feel entitled, 15k on a piece of metal with some screws a dial and some hands. Heck yeah I'm gonna act entitled. I'm gonna be a diva prima Donna all the way. That's a sh*tload of money for a watch. (Maybe not for ppl on this forum but for normal ppl). In some places in the world u can buy an apartment for that kinda money. A dacia sanders costs 30% less than that watch and some people take out a loan to buy that.
So yes if I buy luxury I demand and expect the full luxury.experience. or I'll just buy a 5 dollar quarts watch that keeps time better than a Rolex.

Good point, bunch of $$ for a watch for sure.

7) I don't feel I screwed up, just sucks to have to go to the bottom of the list again and wait. I was already imagining myself at the beach with it this summer, how cool that would look. So yeah I'm bummed. And I know I'm probably not gonna have one from an AD by next summer so.


Good - I’m glad you’re happy with your decision. It will all work out.


But to sum it all up, like you said. First world problems.

[JRell]

I would buy at higher price, but try to get on top of the list of the next watch you want.

[bluestreak]

Originally Posted by JayBlack

That's true, I do want my ego pampered. I work hard for this money. That I make enough to comfortably afford high end luxury watches does not mean I do not value my money.
I still remember times I didn't know what and if I was gonna eat the next day and how I'm gonna pay rent. So yes I know the value of money.
And as I work hard for that money and I treat myself to nice things I do not appreciate the "oh he has money he can afford it attitude" some people have.
Each person that has money, someone worked really hard to get it and that work should be respected.

It reminds me of the joke of a socialist going to a ferrari owner and saying aren't you ashamed, with half a million dollars you couldve fed so many starving families, yet you throw it away on a car.

So the driver tells him, well just so you know by buying this car I am supporting a lot of families, the family of the engineer who engineered the car and the family of the guy who designed it, all their assistants and all the people in charge of transporting the car from the factory to me, all the people who invested in the company, the families of all the people who work for the suppliers of that company. Me buying this car supports all of them. So no I'm not ashamed.

In comparison here all ik saying is just because I can afford doesn't mean I need to take it laying down and pay up. I believe if a company (this case AD) messes up they need to own it. Regardless of whether or not they did right by telling me.

If I Rob a place and I do it so perfectly that the police will never catch me. But I go into the station and confess I did it. You think they're gonna let me go ? Of course not. The judge may take into account I confessed but I'm getting punished regardless. And all my screaming of "if I wouldn't have told you you would never know" will not get me off the hook.
I messed up by confessing. So own up to your mess.

Same here., shouldn't have told me, but did. You made a mistake, own up to it. Simple as that.

Sir, this is a Wendy’s…


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[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by VonSomething

There is no issue as far as I'm concerned.

You expressed interest in a product with a waiting list, when it's your turn on the imaginary waiting-list you pay the retail price at the time it's offered to you.

Unless you made a contract with your AD that you're paying the current MSRP, there's really nothing there.

Don't ask for compensation because of their "mistake" - because behind the scenes there probably wasn't a mistake made, they likely chose to allocate it to someone with a higher internal status.

You could ask for an accessory or a next allocation.

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[rmwill]

This will be topped soon. TRF is full of Veruca Salt's

Originally Posted by bluestreak

The amount of entitlement in this thread is astounding. And if your standing out as entitled in this venue, that’s saying something.