Pay when in waitlist?

[train-time]

Originally Posted by bustertang

Called my friend and got slammed on things about trust, friendship, and the end of the friendship after the transaction. He said different people got their watches in different ways and he was just trying to help me without any benefit of him. Trusting people meeting on-line instead of people knowing for years in absurd. Honestly, I have no method to tell.
Getting a watch was a happy thing and all got ruined now. I wish all has never happened or I didn't know about the warranty card and receipt issue. All I can learn is that I won't have large transactions with friends anymore, and I feel miserable about this experience as well as myself.
I guess this is the adult world.

All I can say is WOW! And he has the nerve to slam you after he pulled this BS on you. Click would have been the sound he would have heard if it were me on that call with him. Make sure to visit the AD with the watch and let them know he flipped it to you shortly after getting it from them.

[Me4u2night]

Originally Posted by bustertang

Called my friend and got slammed on things about trust, friendship, and the end of the friendship after the transaction. He said different people got their watches in different ways and he was just trying to help me without any benefit of him. Trusting people meeting on-line instead of people knowing for years in absurd. Honestly, I have no method to tell.
Getting a watch was a happy thing and all got ruined now. I wish all has never happened or I didn't know about the warranty card and receipt issue. All I can learn is that I won't have large transactions with friends anymore, and I feel miserable about this experience as well as myself.
I guess this is the adult world.

He’s full of it. You’re better off without him. Take it back to the AD and make sure it’s authentic even if it take 2 weeks.

[bustertang]

Originally Posted by sleepydoc

I wouldn't be okay with "probably". Is it just the two weeks wait that made you not bother? Not knowing for sure would drive me nuts.

Well, things won't be any better if I found out it was a fake watch. If it ends up being a fake one, I would need to argue with him again, and he could now say I switched it. Anyway, I am keeping it as a lesson as well as a celebration of entering my 30s and getting my Ph.D. I have no plan to sell it, and I have no intention of digging any further. Let me keep some basic trust in the friend thing, although I won't have any large transactions with friends anymore.

[alphadweller]

Originally Posted by bustertang

Visited a local Dealer, and SA said it was probably a real Rolex. It would take 2 weeks for a thorough authentication (open the watch and check the parts), so I decided not to bother with it. I appreciate everyone's insights and advice! Anyway, I am going to keep the watch and let it go. As for the friend thing, I consider that as a lesson.

I have a problem with your purchase, OP. Trust.

Because your friend lied to you, how can you be 100% sure the watch is genuine? What if the movement was replaced with a cheap Chinese clone? Only an authentication could give you peace of mind, at the risk of having the Rolex warranty void, since Rolex don't allow third parties to tamper with their watches under warranty.

Do you really love the piece and are you prepared to live with that doubt in your mind. To me it's not worth it. I would push for a return of the watch and a refund. I would then try to source it from an AD or a trusted seller, bearing in mind it's even trading slightly below retail, although this is beside the point.

If your friend refuses and you decide to keep the watch, take it to the RSC. Tell them it's not keeping good time, to the best of your knowledge. They'll check the watch is genuine and will put it on a timegrapher. They'll come back confirming if it's working withing spec or not. If it's a fake, they'll tell you.

[SS Oyster]

Not a friend, but someone who wanted to offload an unpopular watch that he gets to leverage with his AD as spend history, while you don’t.


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[sleepydoc]

Originally Posted by bustertang

Well, things won't be any better if I found out it was a fake watch. If it ends up being a fake one, I would need to argue with him again, and he could now say I switched it. Anyway, I am keeping it as a lesson as well as a celebration of entering my 30s and getting my Ph.D. I have no plan to sell it, and I have no intention of digging any further. Let me keep some basic trust in the friend thing, although I won't have any large transactions with friends anymore.

I understand where you are coming from, but eventually when you send it to RSC for a service you will find out if it is genuine or not. Bravo for being chill enough to leave it be. I would have to know.

[train-time]

Originally Posted by SS Oyster

Not a friend, but someone who wanted to offload an unpopular watch that he gets to leverage with his AD as spend history, while you don’t.


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Absolutely correct and to my earlier point. Make sure his AD knows he flipped it to you by either going there and asking some questions about its history and let them know who you got it from or if it isn't nearby then call them and ask to speak to his SA and make the same inquiry about how you got it essentially letting them know he flipped it. It will also serve to confirm the legitimacy of the piece assuming that they will entertain such a conversation. Definitely worth a try since it's a watch that they sold originally. Worst case it gets back to him and pisses him off, but hey!

[bustertang]

Thanks for your information! The relationship had already broken up at the moment that I told him my doubts. And on my side, I already offered an apology (even though I don't believe his story), and he didn't seem to care. This was not a solid relationship that could handle such conflict in the beginning. So I decided just to let it go.

[macrowatch]

Good on you for focusing on whats important. Congrats on completing your PHD.

FWIW, the initial reaction really sounds like the profile and reaction for how an emotionally abusive partner maneuvers when confronted with something.

[SLWoodster]

I will blame the AD for playing these games and helping to cause your friend to act like a complete jerk.

He definitely did not buy the watch now. The watch was picked up and purchased in September last year. It’s not a bad watch. But the way it was done by your friend was shady. Back in September of last year, it really was hard to get this watch too. It still is, but the secondary market has cooled on it.

[Star Ferry]

Can someone please link the thread that started the tequila tasting joke? I need a quick chuckle

[Travis29]

Originally Posted by travisb

Something’s fishy. Again, the card would not be back dated. It would be dated the day the purchaser picked up the watch from the AD regardless of when he paid for it. Good luck.


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Travis?!!!!

[Travis29]

Originally Posted by bustertang

Dear guys!
I just entered my 30s and decided to purchase my first Rolex. I visited an AD in Chicago and was put on to waitlist for a Daytona. The SA told me it would take more than one year. When I told this to a friend of mine who owns several Rolex, he said I would probability stay on the waitlist forever unless I buy thousands of jewelry from that AD. I decided just wait and see what happens.
About 1 month later, my friend told me he got an allocation for a rose gold black dia 40 Yacht-Master, and he asked me if I liked it. He said he could buy and send it to me if I pay him the price plus 500 for dinner with the SA. I accepted the offer, but after I sent him the money he told me the warranty card would be from last year Sep since he paid when he got into the waitlist, and SA charged to put him on a "real" waitlist.
I don't think he would give me a fake watch because we have known each other for years and we work in the same company, but I feel I get fooled that he just sold me one of his old watches that he hardly wears. What are your guys opinions?

Calling BS on your buddy. Card is given at the time of purchase.

[Number3]

Originally Posted by bustertang

Called my friend and got slammed on things about trust, friendship, and the end of the friendship after the transaction. He said different people got their watches in different ways and he was just trying to help me without any benefit of him. Trusting people meeting on-line instead of people knowing for years in absurd. Honestly, I have no method to tell.
Getting a watch was a happy thing and all got ruined now. I wish all has never happened or I didn't know about the warranty card and receipt issue. All I can learn is that I won't have large transactions with friends anymore, and I feel miserable about this experience as well as myself.
I guess this is the adult world.

Real friends don’t treat each other like this. People do get their watches in different ways but nobody gets a watch from an AD with a backdated warranty. Your ‘friend’ is full of BS and if he is talking about ending your friendship after this transaction I would demand your money back in full - what do you have to lose?

Edit: saw subsequent posts - please do get it authenticated, purely for your own piece of mind. Then you can at least enjoy it and know that something good came out of this without any nagging doubts.

[alex.cicollo]

Originally Posted by bustertang

Thanks for your information! The relationship had already broken up at the moment that I told him my doubts. And on my side, I already offered an apology (even though I don't believe his story), and he didn't seem to care. This was not a solid relationship that could handle such conflict in the beginning. So I decided just to let it go.

Kind of you to do what you did. Well done!

Seems he is the one who lost a great human as a friend.

[Robf52]

Originally Posted by train-time

A new customer to an AD with no major purchase history getting a SS Daytona after being on a waitlist for 1 year. Where do I sign up!!

The warranty card story on the YM makes no sense and smells fishy.

This.