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mechanico50 · 17 July 2009, 01:22 AM

will the green subs ever become a rare collectors peice,will they ever go up in value

swissautopro · 17 July 2009, 03:02 AM

I believe so, but only regarding a true 50th anniversary. Here's a link:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/20759...ary+Submariner

Hope it helps.

dcmachead · 17 July 2009, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by swissautopro

Here's a link:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/20759...ary+Submariner

Thank you for that post. Very interesting.

karmatp · 17 July 2009, 07:31 AM

I just asked my magic 8 ball and it said no.

AIKO · 17 July 2009, 07:32 AM

Maybe one day IF they ever stop making the watch. Who knows.

The GMT Master · 17 July 2009, 08:21 AM

Can't see it happening to be honest, too many have been made, it's been too popular. The true collectors pieces are the ones people just don't buy - I reckon that the only model in the current line up that has potential to be a collectors piece is the Yachtmaster II.

Strut99GT · 17 July 2009, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The GMT Master

Can't see it happening to be honest, too many have been made, it's been too popular. The true collectors pieces are the ones people just don't buy - I reckon that the only model in the current line up that has potential to be a collectors piece is the Yachtmaster II.

I totally agree, yet isn't that ironic?! Some years down the road people are going to say "ooh, that watch that no one wanted to buy...now this should be extremely valuable!"

The GMT Master · 17 July 2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Strut99GT

I totally agree, yet isn't that ironic?! Some years down the road people are going to say "ooh, that watch that no one wanted to buy...now this should be extremely valuable!"

It is a bizarre situation, it's like the original Daytonas, they barely sold at all. Speaking to my AD (who has had a Rolex contract since the 1950s, I believe), you could probably count the number of their sales on one hand. Strange how time changes taste so much

mike · 17 July 2009, 10:30 AM

I have no idea.

However; we sometimes confuse rarity and collectability.

The LV has been made is sufficent numbers that to call it a rare reference is a bit of a stretch. But....who knows what future collector's will feel it's place is.

The 5513 remains a popular watch with new (and seasoned) collectors and "rarity" has never been it's strong suit.

Time will tell......

Tombstone · 17 July 2009, 06:54 PM

I own one, (LV Sub) so you would think I would say yes. I say no, the 50th anniversary Sub is too common, it is not rare. Rolex makes so many of them (modern watches) I think it is an artificial rareness created by Rolex. This theory is tested on the gray market. Call a gray dealer and see what he/she will buy an LV Sub for (if they are buying at all) if an LV Sub is truly a rare watch, a gray dealer would buy at any time. You will find $2,500 to $3,000 is what they will offer you for a used LV Sub or BNIB.

Today even the prized Rolex Daytona is common. All three of my familiar ADS have said there is no waiting list as they go down their “lists” of people who have said they want a Daytona and the song is always the same “Sorry no money” or “I don’t dare buy into days market.” MSRP is the only price considered. So the “rare Daytona of 1.5 years ago which many paid over $3,000 over MSRP for is today worth MSRP and still Rolex can’t sell them all artificial Rolex rareness. Not a shock everyone hear knows this.

Rolex keeps jacking up the prices the common excuses as told by AD in the past “you hold on to the watch and over time it will become worth more due to the price increases.“ If this were true explain(100% all of the time) explain today’s market. Right now at this time most gray dealers, pawn shops, or the few dealers who will take an old Rolex in trade toward a new Rolex are not buying. Your $6,800 Sub today right now is worth ½ of what you paid. So today right now an LV Sub is not rare most will not even consider buying one. I feel if the LV Sub will ever be worth something will be when everyone here on this forum is dead and gone maybe. And this will be due to the fact many of the watches will have been lost, destroyed, unaccounted for, or beyond a point of function or value. IMHO

padi56 · 17 July 2009, 07:55 PM

IMHO I would doubt if the LV will become what I would call a real colectors watch.Lets be honest here the only difference is maxi dial green insert between normal sub.And if price did go up sure would be a lot of plain subs on market made up to be/look like LVs.

17 July 2009, 01:22 AM	#1
mechanico50 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: huntington,ct Posts: 9	submariner anniversary will the green subs ever become a rare collectors peice,will they ever go up in value

17 July 2009, 03:02 AM	#2
swissautopro "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: South Carolina Watch: 3.3M 1655 Mk I Posts: 2,384	I believe so, but only regarding a true 50th anniversary. Here's a link: http://www.network54.com/Forum/20759...ary+Submariner Hope it helps. __________________ "A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, and poverty will come upon you like a bandit, and scarcity like an armed man." Proverbs 24 "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt." Unknown "Better to be a nobody and yet have a servant than pretend to be somebody and have no food." Proverbs 12

17 July 2009, 07:31 AM	#4
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	I just asked my magic 8 ball and it said no. __________________ My grails:

17 July 2009, 06:54 PM	#10
Tombstone "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Richard Location: LV, NV Watch: LV Sub and others Posts: 2,689	I own one, (LV Sub) so you would think I would say yes. I say no, the 50th anniversary Sub is too common, it is not rare. Rolex makes so many of them (modern watches) I think it is an artificial rareness created by Rolex. This theory is tested on the gray market. Call a gray dealer and see what he/she will buy an LV Sub for (if they are buying at all) if an LV Sub is truly a rare watch, a gray dealer would buy at any time. You will find $2,500 to $3,000 is what they will offer you for a used LV Sub or BNIB. Today even the prized Rolex Daytona is common. All three of my familiar ADS have said there is no waiting list as they go down their “lists” of people who have said they want a Daytona and the song is always the same “Sorry no money” or “I don’t dare buy into days market.” MSRP is the only price considered. So the “rare Daytona of 1.5 years ago which many paid over $3,000 over MSRP for is today worth MSRP and still Rolex can’t sell them all artificial Rolex rareness. Not a shock everyone hear knows this. Rolex keeps jacking up the prices the common excuses as told by AD in the past “you hold on to the watch and over time it will become worth more due to the price increases.“ If this were true explain(100% all of the time) explain today’s market. Right now at this time most gray dealers, pawn shops, or the few dealers who will take an old Rolex in trade toward a new Rolex are not buying. Your $6,800 Sub today right now is worth ½ of what you paid. So today right now an LV Sub is not rare most will not even consider buying one. I feel if the LV Sub will ever be worth something will be when everyone here on this forum is dead and gone maybe. And this will be due to the fact many of the watches will have been lost, destroyed, unaccounted for, or beyond a point of function or value. IMHO __________________ Always working...by choice

17 July 2009, 07:55 PM	#11
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,061	IMHO I would doubt if the LV will become what I would call a real colectors watch.Lets be honest here the only difference is maxi dial green insert between normal sub.And if price did go up sure would be a lot of plain subs on market made up to be/look like LVs. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

17 July 2009, 07:32 AM	#5
AIKO "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,937	Maybe one day IF they ever stop making the watch. Who knows.

17 July 2009, 08:21 AM	#6
The GMT Master "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: England Posts: 8,150	Can't see it happening to be honest, too many have been made, it's been too popular. The true collectors pieces are the ones people just don't buy - I reckon that the only model in the current line up that has potential to be a collectors piece is the Yachtmaster II.

17 July 2009, 10:30 AM	#9
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	I have no idea. However; we sometimes confuse rarity and collectability. The LV has been made is sufficent numbers that to call it a rare reference is a bit of a stretch. But....who knows what future collector's will feel it's place is. The 5513 remains a popular watch with new (and seasoned) collectors and "rarity" has never been it's strong suit. Time will tell......

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