Joel Embiid, NBA MVP, gets Rolex

[hbbfam]

Originally Posted by buffetwarren

Hakeem Olajuwon did that and up until now is easily the more decorated player. Hakeem along with Shaq is recognized as a top 2 C since Kareem.

I like Embiid but he can’t stay healthy and I’m not confident he ever wins a ring in Philly.

Just to add more fun to the argument, Hakeem's two rings were the two years Michael was out of the league. I think Joel has more skill and can do more on the court than Hakeem ever dreamed about.

[huncho]

Originally Posted by hbbfam

Just to add more fun to the argument, Hakeem's two rings were the two years Michael was out of the league. I think Joel has more skill and can do more on the court than Hakeem ever dreamed about.

obviously a huge what if with MJ being "retired" those 2 seasons but i believe the 95 rockets had one of the hardest roads to a championship, maybe even the hardest

1st round vs 3 seed (utah)
2nd round vs 2 seed (phoenix)
WCF vs 1 seed spurs
finals - swept shaq's 1 seed magic

way off topic now but fun discussion regardless. the level of talent and skill in today's nba is incredible so it's really tough to compare because the average bench player today is better than the average starter 30 years ago. on the topic though, very nice and obviously unnecessary gesture. i always wanted harden to win a ring and will always root for him even if i hate philly lol

[lab rat]

Sympathy MVP. Managed to get the trophy by whining and flopping. Free throw merchant and very annoying person to anyone outside Philly. Giannis deserved it more. Even Harden deserved it more. Shame.

[Bigdaddy38]

Joker is a liability ln Defense, Embiid is the total package and should have won 1 more before this. Too bad he can't stay healthy in the POs though

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[lab rat]

Please don’t get me wrong, but it really seems you don’t watch games at all. Those are phrases which are being repeated by all the ESPN fake journalists who watch highlights at most.

Embiid won because whole MVP race became toxic thanks to Embiid’s lobbying and whining. It was over when Kendrick Perkins pulled a race card and accused Jokic voters they are racist. In these days, people don’t want to be even falsely accused for such a thing, so opted to give it to the guy who cried for it so much.

Luckily enough, we have play off so we can judge for ourselves who is a proper MVP and who is a sympathy MVP.

[1995akcoop]

Originally Posted by JoseR

Nikola Jokic C - DENJoel Embiid C - PHI
Turnovers3.6 3.2
Steals1.4 1.1
Blocks0.8 1.5
Points26.2 30.4

Numbers don't lie.

Do you really wanna go by the numbers?


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[lab rat]

Originally Posted by hbbfam

I have been a Philly fan since 1970. I have seen all the great centers. Joel does things on the court that I have not seen before. He may finally be on a team that could actually compete for a title. Having said that, I don't know who is better Joel or Joker. NIkola is so graceful. Beautiful to watch.

That final would be a spectacle.

[Neo_Anderson302]

Like a $5 to them

[Presa canary]

Originally Posted by lab rat

Please don’t get me wrong, but it really seems you don’t watch games at all. Those are phrases which are being repeated by all the ESPN fake journalists who watch highlights at most.

Embiid won because whole MVP race became toxic thanks to Embiid’s lobbying and whining. It was over when Kendrick Perkins pulled a race card and accused Jokic voters they are racist. In these days, people don’t want to be even falsely accused for such a thing, so opted to give it to the guy who cried for it so much.

Luckily enough, we have play off so we can judge for ourselves who is a proper MVP and who is a sympathy MVP.

Cry harder… no one got on board with Perk when he made those ridiculous comments, in fact the opposite is true. The best player won the mvp, get over it

[lab rat]

“Cry harder” advice did wonders for Embiid, but I doubt it will work for me. Thanks anyway.

[travisb]

Nice gesture by Harden. Embid earned the MVP but all I care about is the Knicks pushing deep into the playoffs.

[1William]

Nice gift.

[911991]

Originally Posted by JoseR

Fair enough. Like you said, both deserved at least one MVP. Both had a hard road making it the NBA. Kudos to both of them.

100%. you could have made same argument for Michael Jordan could won it every year, same for LeBron. So at least one for every great player is correct

[911991]

Originally Posted by lab rat

Please don’t get me wrong, but it really seems you don’t watch games at all. Those are phrases which are being repeated by all the ESPN fake journalists who watch highlights at most.

Embiid won because whole MVP race became toxic thanks to Embiid’s lobbying and whining. It was over when Kendrick Perkins pulled a race card and accused Jokic voters they are racist. In these days, people don’t want to be even falsely accused for such a thing, so opted to give it to the guy who cried for it so much.

Luckily enough, we have play off so we can judge for ourselves who is a proper MVP and who is a sympathy MVP.

IMHO, the decision was made in January when Denver played Philly, Embid scored 47 points and 18 rebounds against Jokic (24 points and 8 rebounds) in a Philly win 126 to 119....

[buffetwarren]

Originally Posted by hbbfam

Just to add more fun to the argument, Hakeem's two rings were the two years Michael was out of the league. I think Joel has more skill and can do more on the court than Hakeem ever dreamed about.

Jordan returned prior to the playoffs for the 95 playoffs. Hakeem smoked Shaq in the 95 finals. Look up videos on what Shaq says about Hakeem (he essentially says Hakeem was the only C of his generation better than him).

Also, Joel has been in the league for around 7 years in a conference with a lot of parity. He hasn’t even come close to making one final. He hasn’t had a juggernaught in the East standing in his way. He has been injured and inconsistent.

I’m a fan of Joel. My point is there isn’t an argument to be made about him being the best foreign C the NBA has seen. Hakeem arrived to the US at 18 with no basketball skills compared to Joel at 16.

Both are great players but at this early juncture, Hakeem has the more decorated resume. Joel has a good decade ahead of him to complete his resume.

[RaZCaL]

Originally Posted by buffetwarren

Jordan returned prior to the playoffs for the 95 playoffs. Hakeem smoked Shaq in the 95 finals. Look up videos on what Shaq says about Hakeem (he essentially says Hakeem was the only C of his generation better than him).

Also, Joel has been in the league for around 7 years in a conference with a lot of parity. He hasn’t even come close to making one final. He hasn’t had a juggernaught in the East standing in his way. He has been injured and inconsistent.

I’m a fan of Joel. My point is there isn’t an argument to be made about him being the best foreign C the NBA has seen. Hakeem arrived to the US at 18 with no basketball skills compared to Joel at 16.

Both are great players but at this early juncture, Hakeem has the more decorated resume. Joel has a good decade ahead of him to complete his resume.

Agreed! Hakeem was one of the greatest center ever, Period! When talking about the greatest big man in the game, he always seems to get lost in the conversation. His foot work is incredible. Would put these youngins to shame!

[911991]

Originally Posted by RaZCaL

Agreed! Hakeem was one of the greatest center ever, Period! When talking about the greatest big man in the game, he always seems to get lost in the conversation. His foot work is incredible. Would put these youngins to shame!

100%. Just ask Shaq

[lab rat]

Originally Posted by 911991

IMHO, the decision was made in January when Denver played Philly, Embid scored 47 points and 18 rebounds against Jokic (24 points and 8 rebounds) in a Philly win 126 to 119....

Yes, that was the moment when I thought Embiid got into leading position in a MVP race, but then he spoke with NBC one day before game in Denver, claimed that people hate him, that he likes to be an a-hole (his words), implied that Jokic shouldn’t have a year before because he was a sixth seed… Then, one day after, he chose to sit in Denver. He ran away in order not to loose that leading position. Then I checked when was the last time he played in Denver. 2023? No. 2022? No. 2021? No. 2020? No. The last time Embiid played in Denver was 2019. Embiid is a coward, manipulator and a-hole. He has all the physical necessities and all the skill needed to be one of the greats, but he will never be because his mind is of a feeble child.

I have utmost respect for every person who cheers for his team and players who are part of it, but I am not a fan of any particular NBA team. I admire certain players who should be role models for kids who adore them. Jokic is one of the best players in the world and a role model for the values I find important. Embiid is one of the best players in the world and nothing more. It’s as easy as that.

I would love to see them both in finals. If not for anything else, just for a chance to see Embiid in Denver for the first time in four years.

As for the watches, Jokic started wearing Rolex watches around this Christmas. He bought YG Yacht-Master 42mm and WG Sky-Dweller. He even spoke how he would love to have a deal with them.

[JoseR]

Originally Posted by huncho

obviously a huge what if with MJ being "retired" those 2 seasons but i believe the 95 rockets had one of the hardest roads to a championship, maybe even the hardest

1st round vs 3 seed (utah)
2nd round vs 2 seed (phoenix)
WCF vs 1 seed spurs
finals - swept shaq's 1 seed magic

way off topic now but fun discussion regardless. the level of talent and skill in today's nba is incredible so it's really tough to compare because the average bench player today is better than the average starter 30 years ago. on the topic though, very nice and obviously unnecessary gesture. i always wanted harden to win a ring and will always root for him even if i hate philly lol

Don't hate. No one likes us, and we don't give a F@#K!

I was really trying to be nice. But hate is a strong word.

[JoseR]

Originally Posted by RaZCaL

Agreed! Hakeem was one of the greatest center ever, Period! When talking about the greatest big man in the game, he always seems to get lost in the conversation. His foot work is incredible. Would put these youngins to shame!

Best center ever???? Selective memory. Two names, Wilt "The Stilt" Chamberlain and Bill Russell. Now that is the best ever!

[seosub]

Very cool how appreciative and grateful he was - and that its his first - given that he probably earns enough for one of those in a less than a day.

[czhao]

Rich people giving rich people expensive gifts. Love to see it!

In all seriousness, big fan of Embiid and loved the moment they shared.

[lab rat]

[B2 Stealth]

Hey Joel any plans for the off season after huge choke job today against the Celtics?

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by Mr. Superlative

If you follow the NBA, you’ll know today Joel Embid from the 76Ers was named as this seasons most by player. His team mate, and former MVP, James Harden gifted Joel with an engraved Rolex President.

Pretty cool.

Nice!


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[Mr. Superlative]

Doc Rivers also fired today. Interestingly, he always wears a stainless steel Sub. Always.