Robbery Robbed of Rolex Day Date 40 228206 in Southern California

[Scholar]

Originally Posted by doublevanose82

I can't believe how someone is smart enough to obtain such a high end watch only to lose it in a parking lot transaction.

I really do feel for our friends here who were robbed but the whole situation is difficult to fathom, for me. I would understand this kind of face to face transaction risk on something like a steel Speedy or Sub… but a platinum DD and gold Nautilus?!

[Guppydriver]

Originally Posted by doublevanose82

I can't believe how someone is smart enough to obtain such a high end watch only to lose it in a parking lot transaction.

To be fair to the victms..

This perp never hesitates to provide phone numbers, ID's, social media profiles etc..

He states that he has to have the watch authenticated by a jeweler to protect his purchase. Inside the jewelers he snatches the watch (either just grabs it or tries it on) and bolts through the unlocked door to his vehicle. It's not a parking lot transaction. The seller is lead to believe that after the watch has been authenticated, they will proceed to a bank to finalize the deal.

It's easy to find naiveté after the fact, but who knows how credible this scumbag presented himself leading up to the crime. I think it's unfair to tacitly question the intelligence of a seller. More than likely, the same propensity to put trust in others and high integrity that made made them victims were contributing factors to their financial success.

[hutch300]

Being that he has used the forum there is a good chance he's reading this thread.

[doublevanose82]

Originally Posted by Guppydriver

To be fair to the victms..

This perp never hesitates to provide phone numbers, ID's, social media profiles etc..

He states that he has to have the watch authenticated by a jeweler to protect his purchase. Inside the jewelers he snatches the watch (either just grabs it or tries it on) and bolts through the unlocked door to his vehicle. It's not a parking lot transaction. The seller is lead to believe that after the watch has been authenticated, they will proceed to a bank to finalize the deal.

It's easy to find naiveté after the fact, but who knows how credible this scumbag presented himself leading up to the crime. I think it's unfair to tacitly question the intelligence of a seller. More than likely, the same propensity to put trust in others and high integrity that made made them victims were contributing factors to their financial success.

Why not just sell through chrono24?

The seller has to treat this like a drug deal, you pick the place and the time. You set the stage and you do it in a way that the watch cannot leave your sight quickly. We are all aware of high end watch robberies the past few years so you have to be on the defensive, maybe show up armed with someone else?

The second one was definitely a parking lot transaction, it all took place outside like some kind of dimebag sale.

[doublevanose82]

Originally Posted by Scholar

I really do feel for our friends here who were robbed but the whole situation is difficult to fathom, for me. I would understand this kind of face to face transaction risk on something like a steel Speedy or Sub… but a platinum DD and gold Nautilus?!

Bro, I wouldn't do that for a speedy or sub either.

[figb]

Wow, this is really heartbreaking. Sorry about that.

[twinfo]

Sorry to hear about this

[vipereaper30]

Terrible news, so sorry to all who are/were victimized. And to those that are suggesting the victims should have known better or done otherwise I think you are missing the big picture here. This community has a lot of trust and respect and there are bad people looking to take advantage of that environment. Most of us wouldn't in a million years consider stealing or screwing over another person so it doesn't necessarily cross our minds that there are people in this world who do bad things to others and that we are at risk at all times. Be on guard, but don't lose faith in each other there are mostly good people out there. Treat each other with kindness and respect.

[places]

This is so serious hopefully he gets caught

[kopi-c]

Originally Posted by ducatiti

Saw a video of the thief. Looks exactly like Kieth Thurman :)



Video: https://ring.com/share/81af5466-f835...d-b6a829e98257

Lowlife hope karma catches up and you get caught.

[Calatrava r]

So, no serial number on OP's stolen watch in spite of being asked several times? He talked over several requests. Maybe he gave it and I missed it. If he did not, I suspect this thread was just for conversation. And conversation he got.

[gerry100]

at least he presented a scenario that seemed it might work if real.

No TRF reader should be a victim of the same "play" in the future.

A public service

[dlddrrr]

Sorry to hear OP’s loss, from the news article and conversations here, it seems he doesn’t want his identity to be leaked out and maybe that’s why he’s not giving up the serial number? Although unless someone is working at Rolex I doubt someone can find owner information with a serial number, so it is puzzling why he wouldn’t want to share if unless he’s a flipper who doesn’t want to get outed by Rolex.

On another note, I’ve heard way too many Craigslist horror stories (people getting maced/beaten and robbed of their phones, etc.) that if I was to sell one of my watches I would just use Chrono24. Getting a picture of their license or getting their phone number means nothing nowadays; even 15 year old kids can get their hands on high quality fake licenses to buy booze with and there are apps to give you temporary fake phone numbers. Face to face transaction just opens you up to more risk nowadays I feel.

[Cloudchaser]

Extrapolation to victim actually being a flipper is a quantum leap at best. This flipper as bogeyman is clearly a burr in your brain.

Originally Posted by dlddrrr

Sorry to hear OP’s loss, from the news article and conversations here, it seems he doesn’t want his identity to be leaked out and maybe that’s why he’s not giving up the serial number? Although unless someone is working at Rolex I doubt someone can find owner information with a serial number, so it is puzzling why he wouldn’t want to share if unless he’s a flipper who doesn’t want to get outed by Rolex.

On another note, I’ve heard way too many Craigslist horror stories (people getting maced/beaten and robbed of their phones, etc.) that if I was to sell one of my watches I would just use Chrono24. Getting a picture of their license or getting their phone number means nothing nowadays; even 15 year old kids can get their hands on high quality fake licenses to buy booze with and there are apps to give you temporary fake phone numbers. Face to face transaction just opens you up to more risk nowadays I feel.

[Bulldozer]

Originally Posted by doublevanose82

I can't believe how someone is smart enough to obtain such a high end watch only to lose it in a parking lot transaction.

I can't believe someone's smart enough to read and type, but isn't smart enough to not victim-blame.

[Uned]

This is very horrible.

[jb335]

Thread is turning dark and nasty….


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[FrontHeadlock]

Originally Posted by jb335

Thread is turning dark and nasty….


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Agreed. Can’t believe someone would betray another’s trust and steal something so valuable. Horrible. A dark time.

[Jacubi]

Only meet face to face if you are carrying.