The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Forum > Other (non-Rolex) Watch Topics > Grand Seiko & Seiko Discussion Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 20 March 2023, 06:36 PM   #1
faust munihausen
"TRF" Member
 
faust munihausen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Europe
Posts: 127
Buying GS Snowflake (SBGA211) in Japan ?

Hi,

I will be on a vacation trip in Japan for 2 weeks in August 2023 (traveling around Tokyo, Kyoto etc).

I would be interested in buying a GS Snowflake (SBGA211) while over there.

Where would I get the best deal for this model (new) and what price woud I have to expect?

I heard about the Seiko Boutique in Ginza but if I can get a better price elsewhere I would prefer that.

Bic Camera maybe?



Thanks.
__________________
114060 (SubC), 126610LN (SubDate), 116610LV (Hulk), 116710BLNR (Batman), 126334 (DJ41 Blue), 126613LB (Bluesy), 126333 (DJ41 Champagne), 126610LV (Starbucks)

faust munihausen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 March 2023, 08:22 PM   #2
Old Expat Beast
TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron
 
Old Expat Beast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Real Name: Adam
Location: Far East
Watch: Golden Tuna
Posts: 28,803
I would definitely try Bic Camera and other discount AD stores.
__________________
_______________________
Old Expat Beast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 March 2023, 09:27 PM   #3
1William
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: North Carolina
Watch: Rolex/Others
Posts: 47,676
I would be tempted to find a JDM model that is limited. Not sure what that would be though.
1William is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 March 2023, 10:26 AM   #4
Aussiexplorer
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Qld, Australia
Posts: 181
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1William View Post
I would be tempted to find a JDM model that is limited. Not sure what that would be though.
That would be a great option and then the timepiece becomes the ultimate souvenir.

I'll be looking very hard when I'm there in a few weeks. :)

PS: Bic Camera is where I bought my GS last trip!
Aussiexplorer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 March 2023, 03:13 AM   #5
mongrelnomoad
2024 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Here and there...
Posts: 1,900
Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast View Post
I would definitely try Bic Camera and other discount AD stores.
This. It's a regular production model with a long history so you'll probably be able to find it for cheaper at Bic or Yodobashi, and they'll knock off a few percent if you pay by card.

I'll be difficult and say if the sales assistant is Chinese, you may be able to haggle... a bit.

If you don't mind paying a bit more, it's a very special experience to buy a Seiko at Wako.
mongrelnomoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 March 2023, 04:10 AM   #6
faust munihausen
"TRF" Member
 
faust munihausen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Europe
Posts: 127
Quote:
Originally Posted by mongrelnomoad View Post
This. It's a regular production model with a long history so you'll probably be able to find it for cheaper at Bic or Yodobashi, and they'll knock off a few percent if you pay by card.

I'll be difficult and say if the sales assistant is Chinese, you may be able to haggle... a bit.

If you don't mind paying a bit more, it's a very special experience to buy a Seiko at Wako.
What exactly is the special experience of buying at Seiko (Wako)?

In my home country the Snowflake costs €6700.00 (including VAT).

I have seen it online at Yodobashi for approximately €4300.00.
Bic Camera was more expensive.

If I get the the 10% Tax discount at Yodobashi. That would bring
the price down to a bit under €4000.00.
Not sure how much I would pay at the Seiko flagship store.

So that would probably make Yodobashi my best option.
__________________
114060 (SubC), 126610LN (SubDate), 116610LV (Hulk), 116710BLNR (Batman), 126334 (DJ41 Blue), 126613LB (Bluesy), 126333 (DJ41 Champagne), 126610LV (Starbucks)

faust munihausen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 March 2023, 06:41 AM   #7
mongrelnomoad
2024 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Here and there...
Posts: 1,900
Objectively, nothing. But subjectively it’s a very special place if you are a Seiko fan.
mongrelnomoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 March 2023, 03:54 PM   #8
In-N-Out
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: USA
Posts: 877
im in Japan now and I haven't seen any snowflakes at any bic camera or yodobashi store. snowflake and white birch, for example, appear to be a boutique exclusive here. I've been to Kyoto, Osaka, and Tokyo and that seems to be the case throughout all those cities.

also your trip is relatively far out. it's not really the retail price that makes GS cheaper in Japan right now, it's the fx rates. yen could get stronger by august

I bought my sbgm221 at bic camera (about 10% cheaper than boutique), and I bought my white birch at Wako at retail price. got vat refund at both places of course
In-N-Out is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 March 2023, 05:57 PM   #9
faust munihausen
"TRF" Member
 
faust munihausen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Europe
Posts: 127
You might be right.

Yodobashi and Bic don't seem to carry the Snowflake after all.

But if I have to pay the boutique price in Japan (even with 10% discount) I could buy the Snowflake grey in my home country for the same amount (€5200.00) without any customs hassle.
__________________
114060 (SubC), 126610LN (SubDate), 116610LV (Hulk), 116710BLNR (Batman), 126334 (DJ41 Blue), 126613LB (Bluesy), 126333 (DJ41 Champagne), 126610LV (Starbucks)

faust munihausen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 March 2023, 06:29 PM   #10
A971
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Japan
Posts: 252
Go to Wako / Takashimaya / Mitsukoshi…
Skip the discount places?

If you are okay buying secondary, there are several highly reputable dealers in Ginza… and a gigantic selection of them in Nakano.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
A971 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 June 2023, 10:15 PM   #11
faust munihausen
"TRF" Member
 
faust munihausen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Europe
Posts: 127
If I would be buying the snowflake secondary what would be my best option Tokyo?
Thanks.
__________________
114060 (SubC), 126610LN (SubDate), 116610LV (Hulk), 116710BLNR (Batman), 126334 (DJ41 Blue), 126613LB (Bluesy), 126333 (DJ41 Champagne), 126610LV (Starbucks)

faust munihausen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 June 2023, 07:23 AM   #12
mongrelnomoad
2024 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Here and there...
Posts: 1,900
Just FYI - I was in Tokyo last month and didn’t see a Snowflake in either Yodobashi or Bic.
mongrelnomoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 August 2023, 09:14 AM   #13
faust munihausen
"TRF" Member
 
faust munihausen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Europe
Posts: 127
Hi,

I will be leaving for Japan in 1 week.
Where would be good places to look for second hand GS watches in Tokyo, Kyoto, Osaka or Hiroshima?
Maybe if I find a "like new" Snowflake I might go for it.
I heard about nakano Broadway in Tokyo. Would that be a good place?
Thanks.
__________________
114060 (SubC), 126610LN (SubDate), 116610LV (Hulk), 116710BLNR (Batman), 126334 (DJ41 Blue), 126613LB (Bluesy), 126333 (DJ41 Champagne), 126610LV (Starbucks)

faust munihausen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 August 2023, 04:38 AM   #14
PBJ1925
2024 Pledge Member
 
PBJ1925's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Real Name: Jay
Location: Bay Area, CA
Watch: 326934
Posts: 2,317
I'd start at Nakano Broadway, there are at least a dozen dealers there in 1 location.

Ginza Rasin (if you're in Ginza) has a decent selection. Happy hunting!
PBJ1925 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 August 2023, 10:38 PM   #15
faust munihausen
"TRF" Member
 
faust munihausen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Europe
Posts: 127
Hi,

I am currently in Japan.
The best deal on the Snowflake that I found so war is JPY 713.000 at Mitsukoshi (8.5% Tax refund and 5% guest card discount included).

Has any1 dealt with a grey dealer housekihiroba in Tokyo?

https://housekihiroba.jp/shop/

They seem to have the best offer atm.
__________________
114060 (SubC), 126610LN (SubDate), 116610LV (Hulk), 116710BLNR (Batman), 126334 (DJ41 Blue), 126613LB (Bluesy), 126333 (DJ41 Champagne), 126610LV (Starbucks)

faust munihausen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 August 2023, 05:06 AM   #16
faust munihausen
"TRF" Member
 
faust munihausen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Europe
Posts: 127
Hi,

I have returned from Japan by now and I got a Snowflake indeed.

I picked it up at Housekihiroba (in Tokyo) at a (tax free) price of Yen 598.000 (€3750).
Full set unworn, box and papers included.
The GS guarantee was activated on the day of purchase.

That was the best deal I could find on my trip (Nakano Broadway included).

Bic Camera, Yodobashi and Don Quijote (donki) do not carry the Snowflake though especially Don Quijote had some interesting deals for Omega watches.

I also checked out the Seiko store at Wako.
Very nice building and exhibiton.
But they were only willing to give me the 10% tax refund on the official sale price of Yen 814.000 and if I can save €800 I save them.
__________________
114060 (SubC), 126610LN (SubDate), 116610LV (Hulk), 116710BLNR (Batman), 126334 (DJ41 Blue), 126613LB (Bluesy), 126333 (DJ41 Champagne), 126610LV (Starbucks)

faust munihausen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 September 2023, 06:35 AM   #17
rom33
2024 Pledge Member
 
rom33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: In a Hotel
Posts: 331
Congratulations faust munihausen,

Soon I will visit Tokyo and will be looking for a GS GMT.
Would you suggest I start looking at Housekihiroba?
Or try several other places first.
Kind regards.
rom33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 September 2023, 11:18 PM   #18
faust munihausen
"TRF" Member
 
faust munihausen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Europe
Posts: 127
Quote:
Originally Posted by rom33 View Post
Congratulations faust munihausen,

Soon I will visit Tokyo and will be looking for a GS GMT.
Would you suggest I start looking at Housekihiroba?
Or try several other places first.
Kind regards.
Hi,

I would check the home pages of housekihiroba, Jack Road and Kame Kichi (the latter two being in Nakano Broadway) and see what they have.
If they don't have the model that you are looking for in stock just drop them an email well before in advance and ask them if they can help you out.

If all else fails I would check out the Isetan/Mitukoshi (same company) department store.
They will give you are VAT tax refund of 10% (actually 8.5%) and a "guest card" refund of 5%.
So you should be able to get the mode you want at a discount of 13.5% (to Japanese list price) at least.

Good luck.

__________________
114060 (SubC), 126610LN (SubDate), 116610LV (Hulk), 116710BLNR (Batman), 126334 (DJ41 Blue), 126613LB (Bluesy), 126333 (DJ41 Champagne), 126610LV (Starbucks)

faust munihausen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2023, 12:54 AM   #19
LeonardGS
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2023
Location: Singapore
Posts: 1
Thanks for the tips!

Thanks faust_munihausen! Heading to japan at the end of this month and just so happened to be looking for the same watch. created an account to say thanks!
LeonardGS is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Wrist Aficionado

DavidSW Watches

Takuya Watches

OCWatches

Asset Appeal


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.