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Old 24 April 2023, 09:12 AM   #31
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I know this is an old thread but wanted to provide an update.

The company is back however under the Forstner name and is gaining a bit of recognition as Jubilee's are making a bit of a comeback in the past few years.

From the company website: “Forstner was originally founded as the Forstner Chain Corporation in about 1920 by William Forstner in New Jersey.”
“In its early years, the company made ornamental jewelry and watch bracelets, like that shown below. In about 1963, Forstner was purchased by Jacoby-Bender, which continued the "Komfit" style, but re-branded it the "JB-Champion."

They offer a reasonably priced aftermarket model "J" for the Tudor Black Bay and it has JB stamped on the clasp. They are now made in China but with Fostner overseeing production they seem to me well regarded and becoming a popular choice among Black Bay owners.

I thought I’d never see a Jubilee resurgence but it has even has inspired Tudor to offer a jubilee option on the third revised 2023 Black Bay release.
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Old 29 April 2024, 09:38 AM   #32
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I know this is an old thread but wanted to provide an update.

The company is back however under the Forstner name and is gaining a bit of recognition as Jubilee's are making a bit of a comeback in the past few years.

From the company website: “Forstner was originally founded as the Forstner Chain Corporation in about 1920 by William Forstner in New Jersey.”
“In its early years, the company made ornamental jewelry and watch bracelets, like that shown below. In about 1963, Forstner was purchased by Jacoby-Bender, which continued the "Komfit" style, but re-branded it the "JB-Champion."

They offer a reasonably priced aftermarket model "J" for the Tudor Black Bay and it has JB stamped on the clasp. They are now made in China but with Fostner overseeing production they seem to me well regarded and becoming a popular choice among Black Bay owners.

I thought I’d never see a Jubilee resurgence but it has even has inspired Tudor to offer a jubilee option on the third revised 2023 Black Bay release.

Thanks for updating this.


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Old 29 April 2024, 06:02 PM   #33
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I know this is an old thread but wanted to provide an update.

The company is back however under the Forstner name and is gaining a bit of recognition as Jubilee's are making a bit of a comeback in the past few years.

From the company website: “Forstner was originally founded as the Forstner Chain Corporation in about 1920 by William Forstner in New Jersey.”
“In its early years, the company made ornamental jewelry and watch bracelets, like that shown below. In about 1963, Forstner was purchased by Jacoby-Bender, which continued the "Komfit" style, but re-branded it the "JB-Champion."

They offer a reasonably priced aftermarket model "J" for the Tudor Black Bay and it has JB stamped on the clasp. They are now made in China but with Fostner overseeing production they seem to me well regarded and becoming a popular choice among Black Bay owners.

I thought I’d never see a Jubilee resurgence but it has even has inspired Tudor to offer a jubilee option on the third revised 2023 Black Bay release.
Thanks great update...I'm sure you know why the resurgence, but for others....

The Rolex BLNR and BLRO being fitted to a jubilee kicked off the renaissance 4-5 yrs ago. At the time the response was negative as many buyers of new Rolex didn't realise the history of the 1675 having Jubilee fitted. In the 60s about 25-30% were thus and many pilots like the comfy wearing nature of a jubilee over a stiffer and heavier oyster.

If we look at the 80/90s the 6251 and 62510h were seen by many as just a datejust accoutrement, and some even thought of it as a bit effete!

I witnessed many 1675/16750/16710 buyers in 90/00's expecting to pay less for one on a jubilee....

Ironically, a correct 50 last link and end links jubilee fitted GMT can now be more than an oyster one!

Postscript - In the last few years I've witnessed many Datejusts being plundered for their bracelets for 1675 fitting although end links have thinner spring bar of course (and coincidentally, why so many 1601/1603 etc on leather now).

Same reason many Tudor Jumbos are on leathers now, as the 7836 they were on are much treasured now.

Interesting how trends change....I predict 36mm will be the 'normal' watch size again (1970-95 it was) in a decade with sports watches maxing out at 39/40mm again too...that downward trend started in 2019 and in the launch of a svelte Tudor 54 (37mm -though wears like 38mm- and highest selling Tudor in 1st Qtr 2024) riding that downward wave of course.....
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Old 29 April 2024, 08:55 PM   #34
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Just as an aside, JB Champion were the makers of the adjustable bracelets that all of the NASA Apollo astronauts wore with their Speedmasters. You can see them in some of the photos. They are very sought after.
Forstner makes a perfect replica of the “Komfit” bracelet.

https://forstnerbands.com/products/f...th-horned-ends
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