Gmt 16760 doubts oyster and jubilee

[Rafabond]

I am going to express a doubt that I have, I will explain myself as best as possible.

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I have a gmt 16760 with oyster 78360 bracelet and endlink 501.
también tengo un Datejust 16220 con brazalete jubilee 62510H con endlink 555 B.

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My idea is to exchange the bracelets, obviously neither of the two endlinks are compatible

To set the jubilee to GMT you would need a 502 B endlink.

and to attach the oyster to the Datejust I need the 558 B endlink.

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Here comes my question, I have no price problems finding the endlink 558 B, but I do have a problem with the 502 B, I found some on chrono24 and they are crazy priced.

para que encaje perfectamente el jubilee al GmT ¿hay otra alternativa al endlink 502 B?

[TimeLord2]

Two options. Go aftermarket if you just want to experiment and since they are stainless not a big deal at $30 each.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174567068141
Or, have patience and a set of originals will come up on EBAY at some point at a reasonable price. I was looking for some 450 J end links for my 1675/3, and yes, crazy expensive too hovering around ±$400 for a set or like $259 for one. I waited a few months and a set came up for $129. Those are on my watch now.
The end.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by Rafabond

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To set the jubilee to GMT you would need a 502 B endlink.

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It's not that simple.

The 62510H on a DJ have smaller 1.8mm tubes on the half link that mates with the end links. Depending on the bracelet you either need to drill out or expand that tube so the larger 2.0mm spring bars used on the GMT will fit through and also match the 502 endlinks.

Alternatively, you need an actual GMT Jubilee which will have a 50 stamped on that last link denoting 2.0mm tubes.

[Rafabond]

I think it will be easier to find a complete bracelet or order a new one from Rolex, which I suppose they should sell, I think.

[Rafabond]

Back to the topic. If I put the 20mm datejust jubilee on my 16760 but with endlink 502B, with the 1.8 mm pin, will I notice something strange when I put the watch on?

[TuRo]

If you have one just try it, likely it will fit fine. Just make sure lug holes are suitably filled and spring bars have entered well into the L/hole so its safe.

Btw some Datejusts have very thin and/or short spring bars fitted (originally or more likely as replacements over the years), so try and avoid those - it will be obvious they are too thin and/or short.

Instead, you need ones that are bit more 'beefy'. Eg some 1.8mm spring bars have thicker and longer protruding end bits btw that fill the diameter of the aperture nicely, and work very well in this situation.

I've had a few 75/750/760 with DJ Jubilee fitted and hence 1.8mm spring bars fitted and they have been totally fine.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by Rafabond

Back to the topic. If I put the 20mm datejust jubilee on my 16760 but with endlink 502B, with the 1.8 mm pin, will I notice something strange when I put the watch on?

Why would you do this?

If you are going to use the 1.8mm DJ Jubilee the 502 ends are a mismatch and you will have too small spring bars through the tubes of the ends. You may as well use the DJ end links where the only mis-match will be the slight 36mm vs 40mm contour at the case side.

You also want to ensure that you don't have too small pivots going into the lugs. A mismatch there will wobble in the lug and deform it.

[Rafabond]

Originally Posted by TuRo

If you have one just try it, likely it will fit fine. Just make sure lug holes are suitably filled and spring bars have entered well into the L/hole so its safe.

Btw some Datejusts have very thin and/or short spring bars fitted (originally or more likely as replacements over the years), so try and avoid those - it will be obvious they are too thin and/or short.

Instead, you need ones that are bit more 'beefy'. Eg some 1.8mm spring bars have thicker and longer protruding end bits btw that fill the diameter of the aperture nicely, and work very well in this situation.

I've had a few 75/750/760 with DJ Jubilee fitted and hence 1.8mm spring bars fitted and they have been totally fine.

Thank you very much, now the question is finding the 1.8mm pivots that have that thickness that you mention. I'm in Europe, it won't be easy to find them.

[Rafabond]

Originally Posted by Tools

Why would you do this?

If you are going to use the 1.8mm DJ Jubilee the 502 ends are a mismatch and you will have too small spring bars through the tubes of the ends. You may as well use the DJ end links where the only mis-match will be the slight 36mm vs 40mm contour at the case side.

You also want to ensure that you don't have too small pivots going into the lugs. A mismatch there will wobble in the lug and deform it.

I tried putting them with the DJ endlinks but it is very difficult to fit them to the GMT and aesthetically they don't look good.