The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Forum > Rolex & Tudor Watch Topics > Vintage Rolex Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 31 May 2024, 04:45 AM   #1
fabiobec
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Italy
Posts: 19
Small red service dials

Hi dears,
could you please describe how many types of small red dials for 6263/6265 are there and how to recognize them?
Regards
fabiobec is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 May 2024, 04:47 AM   #2
lovegmt73
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Italy
Posts: 65
What about this dial?




Inviato dal mio iPhone utilizzando Tapatalk
lovegmt73 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 May 2024, 05:46 PM   #3
GB2
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Paris
Posts: 62
IMHO : small red service dial
GB2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 May 2024, 06:17 PM   #4
TuRo
"TRF" Member
 
TuRo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Real Name: Paul
Location: Cantabrigia - G.B
Watch: ing the detectives
Posts: 2,815
There are a few subtle small detail 'small red' service dials, but tbh service dials decimate the value of a 6263/6265 by about 1/3, or even more.

Loose BR dials can range about £12-18k or so, but Small Red service dials I've seen sell for just £1500-2000, so there's not too much SR fakery out there.

Useful link https://www.standbycomlda.com/6263-6...-service-dial/
__________________
Thieves and fools and long travelled soldiers, A candid light exposes their homes. Human falter, people bellowed from their homes. And houses, there's fools and long reigning pharaohs.

IT BITES - Yellow Christian
TuRo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 May 2024, 06:18 PM   #5
swish77
2024 Pledge Member
 
swish77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Real Name: Aaron
Location: CT/NYC
Watch: ing the time!
Posts: 6,988
The dial above is indeed a service dial. The tell is the A in Daytona doesn’t extend past the 1 o’clock marker on the sub-dial, unlike original, non-service dials.
swish77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 May 2024, 06:25 PM   #6
lovegmt73
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Italy
Posts: 65
Small red service dials

Thank you for the answer, do you know why are there service dials with Singer stamps and other with Rolex3 stamps?
Regards


Inviato dal mio iPhone utilizzando Tapatalk
lovegmt73 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 May 2024, 07:16 PM   #7
TuRo
"TRF" Member
 
TuRo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Real Name: Paul
Location: Cantabrigia - G.B
Watch: ing the detectives
Posts: 2,815
Wet
Quote:
Originally Posted by lovegmt73 View Post
Thank you for the answer, do you know why are there service dials with Singer stamps and other with Rolex3 stamps?
Regards


Inviato dal mio iPhone utilizzando Tapatalk
I'd always favour a tritium version of a service dial on any watch eg a 1675 with a nice patina T25 tritium matte service dial/hand is worth more than a stark Swiss Luminova service dial with Luminova hands.

It's likewise with a small red Daytona.

A, typically earlier, Singer T Swiss T tritium is imho much nicer, and a bit more valuable, than a later Rolex 3 Swiss Footer Luminova one.

Both here, if you want to dissect fonts etc, but it's the Tritium v Luminova that elicits small demand/value equation rather than font/text details :

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/vint...i-t273828.html

Rolex Daytona
£5,233
https://chrono24.app/rolex/dial-role...GB&SETCURR=GBP
__________________
Thieves and fools and long travelled soldiers, A candid light exposes their homes. Human falter, people bellowed from their homes. And houses, there's fools and long reigning pharaohs.

IT BITES - Yellow Christian
TuRo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 May 2024, 07:35 PM   #8
lovegmt73
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Italy
Posts: 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by TuRo View Post
I'd always favour a tritium version of a service dial on any watch eg a 1675 with a nice patina T25 tritium matte service dial/hand is worth more than a stark Swiss Luminova service dial with Luminova hands.

It's likewise with a small red Daytona.

A Singer T Swiss T trium is much nicer, and a bit more valuable in my opinion, than a later Rolex 3 Swiss Footer Luminova one.

Both here, if you want to dissect fonts etc, but it's the Tritium v Luminova that elicits small demand/value equation rather than font/text details :

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/vint...i-t273828.html

Rolex Daytona
£5,233
https://chrono24.app/rolex/dial-role...GB&SETCURR=GBP

As I learned there are Rolex3 dials with Tritium or with Luminova, the one that I posted is tritium


Inviato dal mio iPhone utilizzando Tapatalk
lovegmt73 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 May 2024, 08:12 PM   #9
TuRo
"TRF" Member
 
TuRo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Real Name: Paul
Location: Cantabrigia - G.B
Watch: ing the detectives
Posts: 2,815
Quote:
Originally Posted by lovegmt73 View Post
As I learned there are Rolex3 dials with Tritium or with Luminova, the one that I posted is tritium


Inviato dal mio iPhone utilizzando Tapatalk
Yes the latter R3 version there are two (or more) you can see the fonts are significantly different from the T SWISS T you posted and the Swiss Luminova R3 one I posted:

Eg 'DAYTONA' one is serif and thin text other is not.

On one the O in OYSTER is egg shaped other is nearly round plus loads of other differences....btw there are few different BIG RED DAYTONA fonts too.

I'm sure you can do a similar T SWISS T dial difference between the Singer and R3 too (the obvious difference is the serifs across the sub-dial numbers, min and hr markers on the Singer one etc etc) ...up to now nobody has bothered much as service dials not particularly sought after/valuable, but perhaps now is the time.
__________________
Thieves and fools and long travelled soldiers, A candid light exposes their homes. Human falter, people bellowed from their homes. And houses, there's fools and long reigning pharaohs.

IT BITES - Yellow Christian
TuRo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 May 2024, 09:49 PM   #10
lovegmt73
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Italy
Posts: 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by TuRo View Post
Yes the latter R3 version there are two (or more) you can see the fonts are significantly different from the T SWISS T you posted and the Swiss Luminova R3 one I posted:

Eg 'DAYTONA' one is serif and thin text other is not.

On one the O in OYSTER is egg shaped other is nearly round plus loads of other differences....btw there are few different BIG RED DAYTONA fonts too.

I'm sure you can do a similar T SWISS T dial difference between the Singer and R3 too (the obvious difference is the serifs across the sub-dial numbers, min and hr markers on the Singer one etc etc) ...up to now nobody has bothered much as service dials not particularly sought after/valuable, but perhaps now is the time.

Yes, it could be the time to look at them


Inviato dal mio iPhone utilizzando Tapatalk
lovegmt73 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Wrist Aficionado

DavidSW Watches

Takuya Watches

OCWatches

Asset Appeal


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.