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orly · 1 June 2024, 08:20 PM

Could I get some opinions on the authenticity of this 9411 please? I think the font looks a bit off and the engraving on the movement looks different from what I've seen but maybe there are multiple versions? TIA!

Dom9 · 1 June 2024, 10:08 PM

Better to post this in the vintage section but that is 100% a fake, I am sorry to say!

studioal · 2 June 2024, 12:11 AM

Hands are 100% not real. You can tell that by the diameter of the circular portion that fixes to the post. It's too large on the hour hand. The dial could be one of those aftermarket ones that are all over ebay for $200. I would pass on this and look for something that doesn't seem so perfect.

linesiders · 2 June 2024, 12:45 AM

Total fake

Dave4D · 2 June 2024, 02:29 AM

Even the crown looks aftermarket.
Movement seems genuine.

linesiders · 2 June 2024, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave4D

Even the crown looks aftermarket.
Movement seems genuine.

Crown is fake. Movement is not original Tudor.

996marty · 2 June 2024, 04:12 AM

I’d be interested to know who is selling it? They should be named and shamed for that

alwayshere · 2 June 2024, 06:16 AM

Movement is fake agree with linesider.

Looks like typical Japanese sellers

0nly5iv3Digits · 2 June 2024, 07:15 AM

Got to be one of the most "frankensteined" watches around, these old Tudors... You have been warned

tekno · 2 June 2024, 09:25 AM

How much were they asking where is it listed

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orly · 2 June 2024, 10:10 AM

Thanks for all the helpful feedback guys. These vintage models are a landmine with fakes 🥲 It's from a Japanese yahoo listing so not a seller from here.

orly · 2 June 2024, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by studioal

Hands are 100% not real. You can tell that by the diameter of the circular portion that fixes to the post. It's too large on the hour hand. The dial could be one of those aftermarket ones that are all over ebay for $200. I would pass on this and look for something that doesn't seem so perfect.

Thanks mate, handy tip to know with the hands 👍🏻

Dan S · 2 June 2024, 11:49 AM

Most of the YJ listings indicate that the watch is made of aftermarket parts if you read closely.

Dom9 · 3 June 2024, 03:44 AM

Most of the watches on Yahoo Auctions seem to be fake with easy tells.

Whilst the movement engraving is getting better, there always seems to be the same easy tells in one specific area... perhaps not to be posted here?

I note there are new 2824s on the market with one such tell 'corrected', so we could start seeing even better Tudor 76100-on fakes soon and maybe they will then start doing 2784s - ugh :(

1 June 2024, 08:20 PM	#1
orly "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2024 Location: Australia Posts: 41	Tudor 9411 authenticity check? Could I get some opinions on the authenticity of this 9411 please? I think the font looks a bit off and the engraving on the movement looks different from what I've seen but maybe there are multiple versions? TIA! Attached Images

1 June 2024, 10:08 PM	#2
Dom9 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2023 Real Name: Dom Location: United Kingdom Watch: SD16600 & 9411 Posts: 472	Better to post this in the vintage section but that is 100% a fake, I am sorry to say! __________________ Rolex 16610, 16600, 2 x Tudor 9411/0 black, 2 x blue and a black 79090

2 June 2024, 12:45 AM	#4
linesiders 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: RedSox Nation Watch: U Talkn Bout Wilis Posts: 5,503	Total fake __________________ I'm a sailor peg. And I've lost my leg. Climbing up the top sails. I've lost my leg!

2 June 2024, 07:15 AM	#9
0nly5iv3Digits "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: EARTH Watch: What is "watch"? Posts: 1,347	Got to be one of the most "frankensteined" watches around, these old Tudors... You have been warned __________________ “UNpolished or I’m not interested” 😎 2FA Enabled

2 June 2024, 11:49 AM	#13
Dan S 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 6,289	Most of the YJ listings indicate that the watch is made of aftermarket parts if you read closely. __________________ @oldwatchdan on IG

2 June 2024, 12:11 AM	#3
studioal "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 215	Hands are 100% not real. You can tell that by the diameter of the circular portion that fixes to the post. It's too large on the hour hand. The dial could be one of those aftermarket ones that are all over ebay for $200. I would pass on this and look for something that doesn't seem so perfect.

2 June 2024, 02:29 AM	#5
Dave4D "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: France Posts: 119	Even the crown looks aftermarket. Movement seems genuine.

2 June 2024, 04:12 AM	#7
996marty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: Uk Watch: RolexGMT/Tudor7928 Posts: 4,182	I’d be interested to know who is selling it? They should be named and shamed for that

2 June 2024, 06:16 AM	#8
alwayshere "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Australia Posts: 1,561	Movement is fake agree with linesider. Looks like typical Japanese sellers

2 June 2024, 09:25 AM	#10
tekno 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Texas Watch: Tudor Snowflake Posts: 1,101	How much were they asking where is it listed Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

2 June 2024, 10:10 AM	#11
orly "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2024 Location: Australia Posts: 41	Thanks for all the helpful feedback guys. These vintage models are a landmine with fakes 🥲 It's from a Japanese yahoo listing so not a seller from here.

3 June 2024, 03:44 AM	#14
Dom9 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2023 Real Name: Dom Location: United Kingdom Watch: SD16600 & 9411 Posts: 472	Most of the watches on Yahoo Auctions seem to be fake with easy tells. Whilst the movement engraving is getting better, there always seems to be the same easy tells in one specific area... perhaps not to be posted here? I note there are new 2824s on the market with one such tell 'corrected', so we could start seeing even better Tudor 76100-on fakes soon and maybe they will then start doing 2784s - ugh :( __________________ Rolex 16610, 16600, 2 x Tudor 9411/0 black, 2 x blue and a black 79090

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