Vintage 1963-64 Rolex President Day-Date HELP!

[Yale99tony]

Hi Everyone,

I am new to the rolex forum as I have just signed up today. I just bought my first Roelx Presidential Day-Date, it's an older vintage piece, it's a 1963-64 1803 with the 18k YG Case, Fluted Bezel, and Leather Strap.

This is the exact watch I bought here:

I need some help though, this watch unforuntately didn't come with any boxes or papers (just the papers from the company, I believe it's an apprasial report or something)

I really would like to find and buy the original box that this would have came in, preferably, the inner box, the outer box, along with the manuals and if possible the hang tag.

I tried looking on eBay, but the only thing I really see are boxes for the 70s,80s, and 90s Presidents.

Can anyone help me out here and shed some light on this and give me a link to one or show me what I should be looking for?

Thanks,

[S’portEye]

Looks weird.

[carwashchris]

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[Sublovin]

Advice to you….dont stress about assembling a “set”. You aren’t going to find the proper hang tag (watch serial) anyways. Why buy a box only to put it aside? Where do you buy the watch?

[Yale99tony]

I bought the watch from Swiss Watch Expo. It's usually where ai buy all my watches from.

They are pretty well known for used watches.

The only thing that bugs me about the watch itself is that the spacing of the letters and the font on the dial. Not sure if it's because it's 60 years old, or if something is off about it.

I did take it to 3 jewlers that sell rolexs, one being an authorized dealer and everyone did tell me it was good though. So it must be just me. Haha. But I like having the full set. I still wear them. It's not like it just sits in the safe.

[dbhak22]

I had a '65 Day-Date that was just like yours (notice the pencil hands vs. the more common stick hands). Check out the box/booklets for reference on your hunt:













And here's my personal Day-Date from the mid-60s as well as another reference point:

[tekno]

Skip box and put $ back in the watch. Congrats


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[GGGMT]

Suggest buying BP with the watch. Integrity and authenticity to the set. Rather than cobbling which always felt contrived and fakey.


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[swish77]

Originally Posted by GGGMT

Suggest buying BP with the watch. Integrity and authenticity to the set. Rather than cobbling which always felt contrived and fakey.

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How is tracking down authentic, period-correct Rolex accessories any different than finding authentic, period-correct parts for the actual watch, whether it's a bezel insert, hands, dial, or whatever? Guys do that all of the time, but I've heard this argument before about boxes/manuals etc ...

I've never had an issue with sets that are put together after the fact, as long as they're correct for the watch. (Of course, not talking about a Rolex guarantee paper, which needs to be with the watch from its birth.)

[GGGMT]

Originally Posted by swish77

I've never had an issue with sets that are put together after the fact, as long as they're correct for the watch.

Here’s how it’s different: somebody at your level, with your extensive knowledge and background on these things, could cobble together an accurate set with integrity. My guess is 99% of the people doing this and reselling them have no idea what they’re doing and grabbing stuff more generally and broadly. Hence, the surefire away, is to purchase “as – sold”


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[Yale99tony]

Thanks for the replies everyone! Just to let everyone know. I don't plan on reselling any of these watches, I plan on keeping them and passing them on.

I am in my 20s right now, and just starting my watch collection. I bought my first rolex last year, it's a 1991 16233 with the factory diamond hour markers, and this year it's my first day-date, I just like having the boxes as it makes me geuinely feel better when I am not wearing the watches and when they are in my safe.

I am the type of guy that babies everything and I keep for the boxes for anything I buy haha.

Also quick question, is it me, or just the text,font,spacing look off on the dial?

[swish77]

Originally Posted by Yale99tony

Also quick question, is it me, or just the text,font,spacing look off on the dial?

You'd need to post better, clearer close-ups of the dial. I did notice that some of the tritium dots are a strange color and different than the others that have patina'd to a ivory-yellow color.

(EDIT: I see you started another thread about this topic).

[Dench]

Maybe it's the lightbox photos, but the lugs look really thin.

[TimeLord2]

Originally Posted by swish77

You'd need to post better, clearer close-ups of the dial. I did notice that some of the tritium dots are a strange color and different than the others that have patina'd to a ivory-yellow color.

(EDIT: I see you started another thread about this topic).

I think the darker dots are remanents of the tritium dots where they have fallen off. Yeah, I could be wrong.

[77T]

Yes there are several dark spots where the original Tritium lume dots fell off over the years.


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[Bell904]

Agree

[Yale99tony]

Hey Guys, I appreciate all the comments. Yes the dots just wore off over some time. I mean the watch is 60 years old so it's understandable.

It looks like it's been a little over polished, but I am loving it. It's my first Rolex Presidential Day Date and happy and just fortunate to be able to get one in my 20s.

I brought it to my local Authorized Rolex Dealer (Lenox) and got it authenticated by their Rolex Watch Maker and Appraisal from them, signed and sealed, so I am relieved I got my piece of mind.

[Sublovin]

Originally Posted by Yale99tony

I am the type of guy that babies everything and I keep for the boxes for anything I buy haha.

If this is the case, why wouldn’t you have purchased a complete set in better condition? These are plentiful, so it would have maybe made sense to spend extra on what you wanted from the start.

[GGGMT]

Originally Posted by Sublovin

If this is the case, why wouldn’t you have purchased a complete set in better condition? These are plentiful, so it would have maybe made sense to spend extra on what you wanted from the start.

This


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