Question on being in the "waiting list"

[itim]

My wife got the call for a 77350SR after putting her name 2 years ago and not really bothering to follow up on it.

So being a good husband that I am, I decided to tag along to the AP house. She purchased her watch and then registered interest for a 15551OR.

When the bracelet was getting resized for my wife, the sales lady asks am I interested in anything. I said yeah of course the Jumbo blue dial - unsurprisingly shot down. Then she says may be she can put my name down for 15510 black dial. I say of course, that is also really nice, thank you and typed my details into the iPad.

My question is:
1) Is that it and I am now on the waiting list? I just have to wait however many years to be allocated a 15510? It would be super to have a 15510 at retail price but I am not desperate enough to buy a Code 11.59 to ensure it happens.

2) Is there non-monetary hoop that I can and should jump through to make the allocation comes faster (I am assuming that I am now in the list or this is the wrong thinking)?

Much appreciated in advance for your comments.

[Broadbear]

I think you’re in a good position. You have purchase history plus the SA had mentioned black dial 15510 so it’s definitely doable. I don’t think you will have to wait for years for it, probably few months.


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[Vivalas]

I introduced a friend of mine to AP House who wanted a 15510. He got offered a black dial 6 months later. That was last year and if anything I’d say things were easier. I’m nobody in the grand scheme of things AP wise so it’s not like I had any sway.

I’ll say the same to you as I said to him, keep in contact with the SA. Follow up occasionally and show some interest. Not every 5 minutes, but the odd what’s app message or email can’t hurt and can more likely help.

[GW44]

Originally Posted by Vivalas

I introduced a friend of mine to AP House who wanted a 15510. He got offered a black dial 6 months later. That was last year and if anything I’d say things were easier. I’m nobody in the grand scheme of things AP wise so it’s not like I had any sway.

I’ll say the same to you as I said to him, keep in contact with the SA. Follow up occasionally and show some interest. Not every 5 minutes, but the odd what’s app message or email can’t hurt and can more likely help.

Exactly this

[APhound]

You’re going to get it. Probably about like waiting for a submariner- if I had to guess I’d say 3-6 months. Wouldn’t be surprised for you to get it by Christmas.
You’ll probably get the jumbo too, they’re not as impossible as you think.


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[nazarian]

What a fair expectation for spend at the boutique for a blue or green dial 15510 these days. How many watches in…

[APhound]

Originally Posted by nazarian

What a fair expectation for spend at the boutique for a blue or green dial 15510 these days. How many watches in…

Second watch


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[messikens]

Definitely think doable in 6 -8 months or less. Good start to purchase a two tone ladies piece. You have asked for a very nice watch but nothing crazy. Would recommend give it some time, follow-up in 2-3 months and ask if you can try one on again as you're very interested.

Good luck!

[GW44]

Originally Posted by APhound

Second watch


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Can’t personally speak for the USA but almost zero chance in most other territories

[Vivalas]

Originally Posted by APhound

You’re going to get it. Probably about like waiting for a submariner- if I had to guess I’d say 3-6 months. Wouldn’t be surprised for you to get it by Christmas.
You’ll probably get the jumbo too, they’re not as impossible as you think.
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Originally Posted by APhound

Second watch

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From your posts, you clearly think the AP market has tanked? Or is tanking? Anything now relatively easy to get?

[APhound]

Originally Posted by Vivalas

From your posts, you clearly think the AP market has tanked? Or is tanking? Anything now relatively easy to get?

I don’t think it’s tanked and I don’t want it to. But a black royal oak isn’t that hard. I introduced my friend to my nomad, he wanted a green diver, boom- a few days later he had it. Like a month later he was offered a code and my friend asked me if he should buy it and I said do you want it? He said if it helps me get a royal oak, I said you don’t need to buy it if you don’t want it just let him know what you want. The nomad traded the code for the black royal oak he wanted and had it a couple days later.


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[Vivalas]

Originally Posted by APhound

I don’t think it’s tanked and I don’t want it to. But a black royal oak isn’t that hard. I introduced my friend to my nomad, he wanted a green diver, boom- a few days later he had it. Like a month later he was offered a code and my friend asked me if he should buy it and I said do you want it? He said if it helps me get a royal oak, I said you don’t need to buy it if you don’t want it just let him know what you want. The nomad traded the code for the black royal oak he wanted and had it a couple days later.

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I don’t think that’s the norm though. How many people have a nomad? Apart from the odd person on here posting about them, I’ve never really heard about them.

[APhound]

Originally Posted by Vivalas

I don’t think that’s the norm though. How many people have a nomad? Apart from the odd person on here posting about them, I’ve never really heard about them.

Understood. That’s my only point of reference though. I only deal with my nomad, not boutiques or houses etc.
I have another friend who buys in Dallas and he has done well. Offshore taupe then blue chrono royal oak then green ss code then 16202..

To your point, before my nomad, I bought all my APs grey because I couldn’t get anything from any boutiques etc. (that was peak watch craze time)


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[Vivalas]

Originally Posted by APhound

Understood. That’s my only point of reference though. I only deal with my nomad, not boutiques or houses etc.
I have another friend who buys in Dallas and he has done well. Offshore taupe then blue chrono royal oak then green ss code then 16202..

To your point, before my nomad, I bought all my APs grey because I couldn’t get anything from any boutiques etc. (that was peak watch craze time)
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Out of curiosity how did you end up dealing with a nomad? Are they based in an APH, boutique or AP’s head office? Is nomad the word they use and what does it mean?

^ apologies for all the questions, as I’ve not heard of this in the UK I find it interesting.

[APhound]

Originally Posted by Vivalas

Out of curiosity how did you end up dealing with a nomad? Are they based in an APH, boutique or AP’s head office? Is nomad the word they use and what does it mean?

^ apologies for all the questions, as I’ve not heard of this in the UK I find it interesting.

No problem..
I believe they work for corporate. I believe they get their own allocations. I don’t know if they offer it outside the US. Its purpose, to my understanding, is to serve clients who don’t live near an AP boutique. I was sorta trying to work with Aspen, Dallas then Las Vegas, with no luck, finally Vegas told me about the program and gave me a contact. It wasn’t easy but once I was in i was in.


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[GW44]

Originally Posted by APhound

I don’t think it’s tanked and I don’t want it to. But a black royal oak isn’t that hard. I introduced my friend to my nomad, he wanted a green diver, boom- a few days later he had it. Like a month later he was offered a code and my friend asked me if he should buy it and I said do you want it? He said if it helps me get a royal oak, I said you don’t need to buy it if you don’t want it just let him know what you want. The nomad traded the code for the black royal oak he wanted and had it a couple days later.


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Not meaning to be a pedant……But you said a 15510ST Blue or Khaki was a ‘second watch allocation’

Which is highly unlikely in my view/experience so please do amplify your quantified understanding please

[APhound]

Originally Posted by GW44

Not meaning to be a pedant……But you said a 15510ST Blue or Khaki was a ‘second watch allocation’

Which is highly unlikely in my view/experience so please do amplify your quantified understanding please

Ok maybe you’d have to buy more watches? But if I was offered a black one I don’t think it would be unreasonable to say I’d rather wait for a blue or green.. it would take longer I’m sure but I don’t know what else you’d need to buy to get a blue or green. I could be wrong.


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[supernova]

I think a black 15510st is a reasonable second watch after buying a ladies RO, and I think you should be allocated relatively fast.

I was allocated a green ROC as second watch after my wife’s RO (did also have a 15500st I got on grey). I did travel every few months to go see them and was allocated in just over a year.


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[nazarian]

I’d really love some other opinions so I can adjust my own expectations and not be upset if I don’t get what I want. I’m a few watches in at the boutique, plus stuff grey

[GW44]

Originally Posted by APhound

Ok maybe you’d have to buy more watches? But if I was offered a black one I don’t think it would be unreasonable to say I’d rather wait for a blue or green.. it would take longer I’m sure but I don’t know what else you’d need to buy to get a blue or green. I could be wrong.


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With respect but you are wrong. Irrespective of your first allocation it’s highly unlikely to get a 15510ST Blue or Khaki dial as a second allocation which was what you mentioned.

Sure, a black, silver or grey dial is attainable in a reasonable time frame as a second watch.

The reality is that the 15510st is most sought after/attainable watch for any watch fan but for the past 4/5 years it’s the hardest to get.

And its a watch that AP staff cannot buy with/without a discount themselves as they have so many clients wanting it.

[itim]

Thank you for everyone's opinions/insights. I am concluding that it's not an impossible for me to get the black 15510 that I filled in my details for. I am assuming that the human SA was the gatekeeper that decides which watch I can register interest for.

An esoteric detail is that my wife's 77350SR purchase and registration of interest for 15551OR are under her name and my registration of interest for 15510 was under my own name and presumably a new account. I don't know whether that is going to work against me or not. I suppose I should follow up once in a while.

EDIT: Also thank you for the other discussions so I know what to ask for in the future as 2nd watch (at the risk of looking too far ahead).

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by itim

Thank you for everyone's opinions/insights. I am concluding that it's not an impossible for me to get the black 15510 that I filled in my details for. I am assuming that the human SA was the gatekeeper that decides which watch I can register interest for.

An esoteric detail is that my wife's 77350SR purchase and registration of interest for 15551OR are under her name and my registration of interest for 15510 was under my own name and presumably a new account. I don't know whether that is going to work against me or not. I suppose I should follow up once in a while.

If the SA's were paying attention the accounts should linked in AP's CRM. You can just check with them to make sure.

[Ichiran]

I was in the waiting list for 7 years before receiving my first AP (an ROC) from the Boutique.

[Rollieo]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

I was in the waiting list for 7 years before receiving my first AP (an ROC) from the Boutique.

Curious what level of interaction you had with them over the 7 year period?

Was it register interest and then 7 years later they called you? Or you went to them x number of times over the years?

[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by Rollieo

Curious what level of interaction you had with them over the 7 year period?

Was it register interest and then 7 years later they called you? Or you went to them x number of times over the years?

To be honest, there was very minimal interaction. There has been a high turnover of SA and a new person tend to text me whenever one left. I have only visited the Boutique once meeting a SA to give him my name card and that was it.

[itim]

Question for my curiousity, much appreciated if someone can tell me. If I was a nobody walking in with 0 purchase history, what would I be offered? Some Codes, low popularity ROOs?

[Steele]

Originally Posted by itim

Question for my curiousity, much appreciated if someone can tell me. If I was a nobody walking in with 0 purchase history, what would I be offered? Some Codes, low popularity ROOs?

First off it depends where you are in the world. I feel Europe right now has the best chance to pick up watches as a walk in. Especially in the summer time. And you’re looking at Codes and ROO’s The displays are full of pieces worldwide to try on and look at so that’s a great thing for everyone.

The US is still tight on pieces here as we are still chugging along, the market has slowed some but with AP now making a lot more RO 38mm and under women’s and unisex pieces the supply for ROs in the 39mm and 41mm are still tight. But I feel if you put your name on the list for a Code or ROO or ladies piece they should come quickly.

I was just in Japan and the interest is still very high there.

The market in China and Hong Kong is the ones I would like to find out more about with the new political shunning of displays of wealth

[CH69]

I was offered a Code as a walk-in in Europe, but nothing at all in the Asia.