Hands-on and first impression of the Cubitus collection

[boa2]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Fantastic set of photos.

Ditto. Love the photos. Thank you, Michael.

[Uros]

Originally Posted by gferreira

Funny thing is the SA that showed it to me was a bit disappointed with the piece (design and pricing were mentioned).

I like it tbh.

Looks big on the wrist good its thin


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[edyu]

I believe from the interview, smaller sizes would be incoming. I have a feeling that our feelings would change significantly if a smaller size is available.

[Gebbeth]

Smaller size would definitely help. However, the square shape itself is so hard and sharp, it's a bit jarring. It gives the squared off shape a kind of severeness that does take some time to get used to. That's why the rounded edges of the Nautilus gives it a bit more finesse.

But that's the thing with me. If I need to convince myself of the watch's merits, if I have to deep dive analyze the proportions and stylistic choices, then it's not really a "successful" design. The first visceral reactions is "what the h*ll is that", which is not quite the reaction I think Stern was hoping for?

If I'm spending over $40k for a watch, I feel it has to hit me better than "well....I guess I see the merits....."

[~JJ]

Originally Posted by gferreira

Funny thing is the SA that showed it to me was a bit disappointed with the piece (design and pricing were mentioned).

I like it tbh.

Wow, that is a big watch!

[so nice]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

For me, the Cubitus takes some design cues from the Genta era

Some design cues? It’s a Nautilus that’s been squared.

[JR16]

Originally Posted by Uros

Looks big on the wrist good its thin


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Agree, looks totally awkward (no offense meant).


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[Yobrooks]

Is it me or does the date window look especially small given the large dial size ? A grand date size would have been much more special !

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[itim]

Originally Posted by Yobrooks

Is it me or does the date window look especially small given the large dial size ? A grand date size would have been much more special !

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Yeah agree. It's the same movement as the 38mm Calatravas and 35mm ladies Nautilus. Now in a 45mm case, pretty lazy imo.

[Armis]

Originally Posted by gferreira

Funny thing is the SA that showed it to me was a bit disappointed with the piece (design and pricing were mentioned).

I like it tbh.

I don’t know your wrist size but this fits great on you. Accepting the fact of its size, on most of the wrist shots I’ve seen posted so far I haven’t noticed any in which the watch overwhelms the wrist or looks comical. Your wrist shot is encouraging, thanks for posting.

[ButtButt]

I also went to look at these today. My subjective opinion is it does look better in person but not by much. I think the shape is fine, it just looks like a square Nautilus... but I don't really understand why it had to be 45mm. It looked massive on me and I have almost 7.5" wrists.

If I had to choose one it would be the 5822. I liked the weight of the platinum and the strap is really nice. There's just so much empty space on the 5821 it doesn't look right to me. They also had the two tone there which I didn't even bother to try.

For me personally there are many other Patek watches I would want to buy before these. My wife and I both thought her Santos looked better and more interesting. Just my $0.02.

[pam66]

a new collection without any PP magic.

[jcdevoe26]

Here are my take-aways:

- its not a "new" collection and should not have been positioned as such. Its an extension of the Nautilus family.
- dial design should have been different if they didnt want the negative comparison's to the nautilus family.
- the 45mm is overwhelming and should not have been the piece they announced first, should have been a smaller size first....except maybe the Platinum piece as I am not sure that dial layout is going to fit well on a smaller square case
- the reverse/case back looks awkward. The movement looks so tiny compared to the case
- I think it will actually look good in a smaller size....40mm, but again its still just an extension of the nautilus family
- The pricing makes no sense to me for the basic 3 hand models

[masochistsr]

Why does Patek say one of the purposes of the Cubitus was to create an entry level watch that helps capture a younger client base? Isn’t that what the 5167a is for?

[offrdmania]

When this watch is impossible to buy, I think it will sell a ton of Cartier Santos watches.

[~JJ]

Originally Posted by masochistsr

Why does Patek say one of the purposes of the Cubitus was to create an entry level watch that helps capture a younger client base? Isn’t that what the 5167a is for?

At half the price too. I think it’s a sign that SS 5167 has a short shelf life remaining.

[SudiYunus]

Originally Posted by ButtButt

I also went to look at these today. My subjective opinion is it does look better in person but not by much. I think the shape is fine, it just looks like a square Nautilus... but I don't really understand why it had to be 45mm. It looked massive on me and I have almost 7.5" wrists.

If I had to choose one it would be the 5822. I liked the weight of the platinum and the strap is really nice. There's just so much empty space on the 5821 it doesn't look right to me. They also had the two tone there which I didn't even bother to try.

For me personally there are many other Patek watches I would want to buy before these. My wife and I both thought her Santos looked better and more interesting. Just my $0.02.

LoLLLLL comparison with Cartier Santos

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by SudiYunus

LoLLLLL comparison with Cartier Santos

We really need to see side-by-side pics with various versions of the Santos. When someone gets a chance, we really need to see PP vs Cartier Santos pics

[Rollieo]

Originally Posted by jcdevoe26

Here are my take-aways:

- its not a "new" collection and should not have been positioned as such. Its an extension of the Nautilus family.
- dial design should have been different if they didnt want the negative comparison's to the nautilus family.
- the 45mm is overwhelming and should not have been the piece they announced first, should have been a smaller size first....except maybe the Platinum piece as I am not sure that dial layout is going to fit well on a smaller square case
- the reverse/case back looks awkward. The movement looks so tiny compared to the case
- I think it will actually look good in a smaller size....40mm, but again its still just an extension of the nautilus family
- The pricing makes no sense to me for the basic 3 hand models

Pretty spot on, agreed with everything said here.

Funny enough, the Aquanaut was originally released as the “Nautilius Aquanaut” and part of the Nautilius family. It was later that they changed the Aquanaut to its own line. I do think the Aquanaut actually is more different than a Nautilius than the Cubitius is to the Nautilius.

I think what really sealed the similarity is the identical bracelet. If Patek only released the Cubitius on strap, that may have been more interesting. Or come up with a different bracelet design that doesn’t have so many rounded curves; it doesn’t fit the square case.

[Gebbeth]

With that much real estate for the square shape, they could or perhaps should have made a movement that was square as well in terms of the baseplates. Rotor would still be round of course, but something like a ALS Cabaret or Reverso with a rotor would have been nice.

Hell, a manual would have worked too.

[JR16]

Originally Posted by Gebbeth

With that much real estate for the square shape, they could or perhaps should have made a movement that was square as well in terms of the baseplates. Rotor would still be round of course, but something like a ALS Cabaret or Reverso with a rotor would have been nice.

Hell, a manual would have worked too.

Totally agree - doubling down on the case shape w the “cubitus” name and then throwing a round movement in it seems like a missed opportunity to really differentiate this new line which reportedly has taken years and years to develop.


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[Jmaster]

I think it’s 45mm because TS has a big wrist and he thinks it look great on himself. I get the impression he does what he likes more than what makes more sense for his customers. He said it himself - he’s been dreaming about this. Btw, this is not a praise.

As for the design, there are so many missed opportunities and clearly come across as “lazy,” or Patek arrogant. That also seems to fit TS persona…

[L_S_SHOE]

Originally Posted by Jmaster

I think it’s 45mm because TS has a big wrist and he thinks it look great on himself. I get the impression he does what he likes more than what makes more sense for his customers. He said it himself - he’s been dreaming about this. Btw, this is not a praise.

As for the design, there are so many missed opportunities and clearly come across as “lazy,” or Patek arrogant. That also seems to fit TS persona…

Agree.

I used to think highly of Patek, but I think that praise was misplaced.


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[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by L_S_SHOE

I used to think highly of Patek, but I think that praise was misplaced.

The great news is that there are many exceptional independent watchmakers and brands to choose from. Sure we could name brands / watchmaker names, yet have a feeling you already know what is in your future

[pam66]

Originally Posted by edyu

I believe from the interview, smaller sizes would be incoming. I have a feeling that our feelings would change significantly if a smaller size is available.

still it will remain a square nautilus.

[edyu]

Originally Posted by pam66

still it will remain a square nautilus.

Would be fun if they come with square rotating bezel.

[pam66]

Originally Posted by edyu

Would be fun if they come with square rotating bezel.

yeah.... let the genius TS design it

[JR16]

Originally Posted by edyu

Would be fun if they come with square rotating bezel.

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[fsprow]

Tried all three on today at the Watches of Switzerland store in Hudson Yards, New York. My preference is probably the platinum, but the stainless is excellent as well. My wrist is certainly not large, 6 3/4 inches, but I thought they all looked fine. I think it’s a refreshing take on the Nautilus and am glad that it uses a time proven movement.

[David5807]

Originally Posted by fsprow

Tried all three on today at the Watches of Switzerland store in Hudson Yards, New York. My preference is probably the platinum, but the stainless is excellent as well. My wrist is certainly not large, 6 3/4 inches, but I thought they all looked fine. I think it’s a refreshing take on the Nautilus and am glad that it uses a time proven movement.

I was able to try on the steel and platinum versions yesterday, and agree, they looked fine. Better than in the pictures, in my opinion. However, I still think they're quite large.