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mpnunes · 1 December 2024, 01:21 AM

All are 16570 Polars but trying to decide between 1) Swiss only dial, full set, 2) Swiss made, holes case SEL bracelet (no B&P), 3) later model 3186 with full set. There are price differences (3186 most expensive of the bunch), but not factoring that in to the decision. Wouldn’t sell anytime soon, but overall collectibility is a consideration for me. I like the idea of SEL/holes case for strap changes, but not sure that outweighs lack of B&P. Thoughts??

padi56 · 1 December 2024, 01:31 AM

Well speaking for myself would not pay extra for a 3186 movement that's for sure so just buy the one that best condition and price your comfortable in paying.

brandrea · 1 December 2024, 02:29 AM

I much prefer buying complete sets

mpnunes · 1 December 2024, 03:21 AM

Yeah, complete set is an important consideration. Narrowed to the Swiss only dial and the 3186, both with complete set. Any final words of wisdom? Leaning towards the 3186.

mpnunes · 1 December 2024, 04:24 AM

Done deal. Going for 3186. Will post pics!

rockmastermike · 1 December 2024, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mpnunes

Done deal. Going for 3186. Will post pics!

Congratulations - looking forward to your pictures

Roddypeepa · 1 December 2024, 04:46 AM

Well it depends whether you like the interaction with the 3185 and its wobbly jumping hour hand. But it’s supposed to be an extremely tough, well made and long lasting one. Like most Rolex movements really.

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0nly5iv3Digits · 1 December 2024, 05:09 AM

If your 3186 has the "thin" hour marker surrounds" dial, that would be a dealbreaker for me.

mpnunes · 1 December 2024, 07:14 AM

A few quick pics

rmagoo57 · 1 December 2024, 07:27 AM

Great choice!!

piratfisk · 1 December 2024, 10:18 AM

Excellent choice & congrats. I like it in both the thin & thick hour surrounds. This level of nit-pickery is only found here. Wear it in good health.

mpnunes · 1 December 2024, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by piratfisk

Excellent choice & congrats. I like it in both the thin & thick hour surrounds. This level of nit-pickery is only found here. Wear it in good health.

Thanks! Curious what everyone means by thick vs thin hour surrounds? Is there a difference in these late model 16570s?

77T · 1 December 2024, 10:51 AM

There are dial differences and the polar dialed ones show it in the black surrounds on the hour plots.

If you have already committed, it means you liked it as it looks so don't fret over one comment. I'm sure it will serve you well for years.

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Duey · 1 December 2024, 11:02 AM

I would pass on the 3186.
This was the first iteration of the movement that had the Jumping Hour Click Spring issue.

The broken spring issue on the early 3186 are well known.

subtona · 1 December 2024, 11:31 AM

Lugholes. Always lugholes

Andad · 1 December 2024, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Duey

I would pass on the 3186.
This was the first iteration of the movement that had the Jumping Hour Click Spring issue.

The broken spring issue on the early 3186 are well known.

I have had no issues with my 3186 movements (both 2008 models) but I did read of a 3186 user posting that he could spin through the dates just as fast as a quickset?

1William · 1 December 2024, 11:46 PM

Congratulations.

pk552502 · 2 December 2024, 01:07 AM

I don't think you could go wrong with any of the options really and it looks like the one you bought is in nice overall condition. I personally would have gone with the swiss only dial and papers all else being equal. I say condition is the most important factor though.

Tools · 2 December 2024, 03:14 AM

Good looking watch. I do prefer lug holes and SELs on these models. I do not see any benefit with a 3185 or 3186 movement, but preferences are what the chase is all about.

One of mine.

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mpnunes · 2 December 2024, 03:55 AM

Thanks again all! Really happy with this decision. The final factor was that it seems to be in unpolished condition and came with a Rolex service card (so I know it’s been cared for). Couldn’t be happier. Including a morning pic!

Jackie Daytona · 2 December 2024, 04:30 AM

#2 option for me as long as condition is good.

I have the 3186 option and while I enjoy the uniqueness of the engraved rehaut and all I absolutely wouldn’t pay extra for it. Plus I would’ve liked to have lug holes.

RolexDave68 · 2 December 2024, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mpnunes

Thanks again all! Really happy with this decision. The final factor was that it seems to be in unpolished condition and came with a Rolex service card (so I know it’s been cared for). Couldn’t be happier. Including a morning pic!

Congrats looks like years of enjoyment, cheers to enjoying this journey

1 December 2024, 01:21 AM	#1
mpnunes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Belmont, CA Posts: 138	Which would you choose? All are 16570 Polars but trying to decide between 1) Swiss only dial, full set, 2) Swiss made, holes case SEL bracelet (no B&P), 3) later model 3186 with full set. There are price differences (3186 most expensive of the bunch), but not factoring that in to the decision. Wouldn’t sell anytime soon, but overall collectibility is a consideration for me. I like the idea of SEL/holes case for strap changes, but not sure that outweighs lack of B&P. Thoughts??

1 December 2024, 05:09 AM	#8
0nly5iv3Digits "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: EARTH Watch: What is "watch"? Posts: 1,327	If your 3186 has the "thin" hour marker surrounds" dial, that would be a dealbreaker for me. __________________ “UNpolished or I’m not interested” 😎 2FA Enabled

1 December 2024, 10:18 AM	#11
piratfisk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Real Name: Jake Location: Slam Diego Watch: 16233, 116619LB Posts: 2,312	Excellent choice & congrats. I like it in both the thin & thick hour surrounds. This level of nit-pickery is only found here. Wear it in good health. __________________ What's the time? It's time to get ill. Wishlist: 128236; 16202BC; 5396G

1 December 2024, 10:51 AM	#13
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 41,955	There are dial differences and the polar dialed ones show it in the black surrounds on the hour plots. If you have already committed, it means you liked it as it looks so don't fret over one comment. I'm sure it will serve you well for years. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

1 December 2024, 11:31 AM	#15
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,581	Lugholes. Always lugholes __________________

1 December 2024, 01:31 AM	#2
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,044	Well speaking for myself would not pay extra for a 3186 movement that's for sure so just buy the one that best condition and price your comfortable in paying. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

1 December 2024, 02:29 AM	#3
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 77,926	I much prefer buying complete sets

1 December 2024, 03:21 AM	#4
mpnunes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Belmont, CA Posts: 138	Yeah, complete set is an important consideration. Narrowed to the Swiss only dial and the 3186, both with complete set. Any final words of wisdom? Leaning towards the 3186.

1 December 2024, 04:24 AM	#5
mpnunes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Belmont, CA Posts: 138	Done deal. Going for 3186. Will post pics!

1 December 2024, 04:46 AM	#7
Roddypeepa "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Real Name: Mark Location: Southern England Watch: DJ41 SubC SMP mast Posts: 1,683	Well it depends whether you like the interaction with the 3185 and its wobbly jumping hour hand. But it’s supposed to be an extremely tough, well made and long lasting one. Like most Rolex movements really. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

1 December 2024, 07:27 AM	#10
rmagoo57 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Real Name: Ron Location: Detroitish Watch: GMT II/Sub/Exp II Posts: 2,550	Great choice!!

1 December 2024, 11:02 AM	#14
Duey 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Duey Location: Maui Watch: Too Many To List Posts: 3,597	I would pass on the 3186. This was the first iteration of the movement that had the Jumping Hour Click Spring issue. The broken spring issue on the early 3186 are well known.

1 December 2024, 11:46 PM	#17
1William 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,671	Congratulations.

2 December 2024, 01:07 AM	#18
pk552502 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Real Name: Paul Location: ohio Watch: 16570 black Posts: 510	I don't think you could go wrong with any of the options really and it looks like the one you bought is in nice overall condition. I personally would have gone with the swiss only dial and papers all else being equal. I say condition is the most important factor though.

2 December 2024, 03:14 AM	#19
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,502	Good looking watch. I do prefer lug holes and SELs on these models. I do not see any benefit with a 3185 or 3186 movement, but preferences are what the chase is all about. One of mine. DividerBack4.jpg __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

2 December 2024, 04:30 AM	#21
Jackie Daytona 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Real Name: Brian Location: Nashville Watch: 16750 Posts: 6,613	#2 option for me as long as condition is good. I have the 3186 option and while I enjoy the uniqueness of the engraved rehaut and all I absolutely wouldn’t pay extra for it. Plus I would’ve liked to have lug holes. __________________ 16750 \| 6516(wife’s) \| 126334 \| 16570 \| SBGA413 \| SRPE33 \| 126610LV

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