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Old 15 November 2009, 04:49 AM   #1
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laser-engraved coronet

I recently bought a ss gmt master iic from an AD here in Texas. I have seen and read about the laser-engraved coronet on the sub LV, and also read that this was standard on all Rolex watches made after 2002. The only problem is that i cannot find it on my gmt. I have not looked for it under magnification, should it be visible to the naked eye? or is this feature not found on the gmt?
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Old 15 November 2009, 04:53 AM   #2
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Congrats on a great watch , I was actually shopping around today for à good deal on one of those . That coronet should be there I think , they are sometimes very hard to see . It took me a week on my SDDS
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Old 15 November 2009, 04:56 AM   #3
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Shine a laser at the edge of the crystal (side on). The coronet should become very visible.
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Old 15 November 2009, 04:56 AM   #4
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I recently bought a ss gmt master iic from an AD here in Texas. I have seen and read about the laser-engraved coronet on the sub LV, and also read that this was standard on all Rolex watches made after 2002. The only problem is that i cannot find it on my gmt. I have not looked for it under magnification, should it be visible to the naked eye? or is this feature not found on the gmt?
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Hi and welcome to TRF.

The laser etching was introduced from some models in 2003......so if yours is a GMT-IIC, the laser etching would definitely be there.

Hold the watch under a lamp and then, with the help of a 10x loupe, you will see it. Very hard to see it with the naked eye, unless you are the American Bald Eagle!!

This is what it looks like.....

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Old 15 November 2009, 04:59 AM   #5
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It's there......hard to see....if you bought new from an AD I wouldn't be concerned at all....congrats on the awesome watch!
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Old 15 November 2009, 05:02 AM   #6
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J.J. , was it you that mentioned american "BALD" eagle ????
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Old 15 November 2009, 05:06 AM   #7
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Maybe A New Zealand Bald Eagle!
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Old 15 November 2009, 05:07 AM   #8
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J.J. , was it you that mentioned american "BALD" eagle ????
Yes, the only thing he and I have in common. My eye-sight sucks by comparison!!
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Old 15 November 2009, 05:11 AM   #9
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as jj said very hard to see with the naked eye., Sometimes I've seen it at certain angles in the natural light. Best use a loupe...

btw....lovely choice
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Old 15 November 2009, 05:39 AM   #10
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I recently bought a ss gmt master iic from an AD here in Texas. I have seen and read about the laser-engraved coronet on the sub LV, and also read that this was standard on all Rolex watches made after 2002. The only problem is that i cannot find it on my gmt. I have not looked for it under magnification, should it be visible to the naked eye? or is this feature not found on the gmt?
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On the GMTII is really hard to find. Only at certain angle and lighting you will see it there. I had the same problem for a while. Very easy to spot on a SD or other models.
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Old 15 November 2009, 05:54 AM   #11
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As everyone has been saying so far, it'll be there but hard to find.

Using a linen tester 'loupe' I kept focusing on the wrong surface! You need to start on the watch face and slowly pull away until you're focusing on the top surface of the glass. It really is worth the effort as the coronet looks really beautiful.

Startles me when I see photos of the thing! How on earth is that done?

BTW, many congrats on your new watch - great choice.
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Old 15 November 2009, 06:29 AM   #12
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Thanks to everyone for the information! I am going to purchase a loupe so i can show off this stunning example of Rolex craftsmanship to all friends.
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Old 15 November 2009, 06:38 AM   #13
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Old 15 November 2009, 09:25 AM   #14
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As everyone has been saying so far, it'll be there but hard to find.

Using a linen tester 'loupe' I kept focusing on the wrong surface! You need to start on the watch face and slowly pull away until you're focusing on the top surface of the glass. It really is worth the effort as the coronet looks really beautiful.

Startles me when I see photos of the thing! How on earth is that done?


BTW, many congrats on your new watch - great choice.
Use a tripod and manual focus (auto focus will seek the dial, not the LEC) then use a spotlight at a very low angle and move the spotlight just a bit at a time until the LEC glows.

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Old 15 November 2009, 12:12 PM   #15
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Use a tripod and manual focus (auto focus will seek the dial, not the LEC) then use a spotlight at a very low angle and move the spotlight just a bit at a time until the LEC glows.

WOW!! What an excellent shot, John!!
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Old 15 November 2009, 12:40 PM   #16
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WOW!! What an excellent shot, John!!
Thanks old man, coming from you I appreciate the compliment.

You usually have some great shots (again I'd suggest the lint brush thing before more of your wrist shots though )

But you really out did yourself with "904L steel with a splash of black paint...."
Excellent

So many good photographers here on TRF, you, Mike, Dan, Jocke, Javierleon... I could go on and on... Thanks to all
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as jj said very hard to see with the naked eye., Sometimes I've seen it at certain angles in the natural light. Best use a loupe...

btw....lovely choice
What did he says about to find it with a naked forhead?

Here is my service crystal.

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Use a tripod and manual focus (auto focus will seek the dial, not the LEC) then use a spotlight at a very low angle and move the spotlight just a bit at a time until the LEC glows.

showing off a little!!!!

Great pic!!

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showing off a little!!!!

Great pic!!

No, Jocke was



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I was just trying to show a service dial, I save my regulars.

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hey fellas my dad just bought a 14060M from '07-'08... should that have the lazer etched coronet?
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The LEC is bigger on the JJ's SD.

Olympus biological microscope at x100. I was measuring the crystal thickness and took a pix of the LEC at the same time.
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hey fellas my dad just bought a 14060M from '07-'08... should that have the lazer etched coronet?
Yes, your 14060M has the LEC and it should be at 6 o'clock but as there is no cyclops to align the crystal, there is a very slight chance that it could be at another dial position.

My 14060M LEC is at exactly 6 o'clock.
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The LEC is bigger on the JJ's SD.

Olympus biological microscope at x100. I was measuring the crystal thickness and took a pix of the LEC at the same time.
Eddie thats an insane shot of the coronet....Impressive!!!
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Eddie thats an insane shot of the coronet....Impressive!!!
The LEC seems like a simple thing to do but to superheat the sapphire glass with a LASER and melt it into 152? bubbles about half way through the crystal thickness and in the shape of a Rolex crown is no mean feat.

We see how important it is to find the LEC on a modern genuine Rolex. Except my GV.
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Yes, your 14060M has the LEC and it should be at 6 o'clock but as there is no cyclops to align the crystal, there is a very slight chance that it could be at another dial position.

My 14060M LEC is at exactly 6 o'clock.
Hey thanks ill check for it more carefully! I wasn't able to find it at the 6 o'clock position last time i looked.
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What did he says about to find it with a naked forhead?

Here is my service crystal.

beautiful shot !

excuse my ignorance, but what is a service dial?

and why does ur pic of the coronet has a 'S' ?

thx in adv
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