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Colnago · 24 July 2010, 01:23 PM

Guys, check this out

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROLEX-TUDOR-PR...item2a08d92a87

I'm just not sure, no "Tudor Prince Geneva" engraving on the case back, no lug holes, 455B end links (isn't that a Rolex end link code anyway?), clasp looks suspect in a couple of ways (length of outer part, stamping on inner)....

Wondering, could it be a genuine head on an counterfeit bracelet and end links?.....the links in my other Tudro Jubilee bracelets have curved upper surfaces, this just looks too flat....

ParisDakarBmw · 24 July 2010, 01:30 PM

I'm NOT a Tudor pro, but it looks good to me. My only concern is the underside of the end links. A jeweler can close them down to fit snug.

I don't see anything to cause me to think it's anything other than a Tudor.

Maybe a few pics of the papers would be cool, along with the serial number on the case.

Colnago · 24 July 2010, 01:34 PM

Paul I agree, with two reservations, that's the engraving on the case back.....I've never seen one without that...and the fact that there are no lug holes, again I have never seen that....I have a 79280 and a 79260....both have the engraving and the lug holes.......that's only for the head itself.......the bracelet rings all kinds of alarm bells for me

swatty · 24 July 2010, 01:37 PM

Interesting Bill, I own a 79280P. My case has lug holes and looks to have a more curved shape looking side on. Case back on mine is engraved. This one certainly does have a few issues IMO

Colnago · 24 July 2010, 01:43 PM

Exactly my thoughts Peter....I have contacted the seller and asked for a scan of the document he says he has.....also asked him for photographs of the model and serial numbers....lets see if he comes back to me.....seems a bit suspect that someone already returned it due to the fact they thought it was fake......

One other thing I just noticed from the sellers pictures....the bracelet clasp has 5 adjustment holes.....mine both have 7

Dan Pierce · 24 July 2010, 09:03 PM

Bill,
After further inspection the lack of lug holes, wrong end pieces, rather unusual dial, wrong case back, and wrong box, I'd stay clear of this one.

dP

BASSETHOUNDS · 24 July 2010, 09:16 PM

I can not even see it , I do not know what happens I get this a lot lately :

"Unfortunately, access to this particular item has been blocked due to legal restrictions in some countries. We are blocking your viewing in an effort to prevent restricted items from being displayed. Regrettably, in some cases, we may prevent users from accessing items that are not within the scope of said restrictions because of limitations of existing technology. Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience this may cause, and we hope you may find other items of interest on eBay."

Anyway but by the sound of things it is not good , try PM'ing Stan " tudorman8276 " in case he doesn't chime in himself .

Colnago · 25 July 2010, 11:54 AM

He wrote back to me with a picture of the case back......and an attachment in MS Word format which is supposed to be an "authenticity document".....quite frankly I assume he cobbled it together himself....he also stated that "there are no visible serial numbers at 6 and 12", I wrote back and told him that the bracelet needs to be removed to see them, maybe he didn't realise.......BUT....scary stuff.....I had assumed Tudor to be immune from this sort of thing.......very scary

Colnago · 28 July 2010, 09:45 PM

Bump for Tristan

BASSETHOUNDS · 28 July 2010, 10:03 PM

Ok , Bill . Got that one . Plenty of issues .. as it seems there has been a litigation with that watch before .

Colnago · 28 July 2010, 10:16 PM

It's still listed though Tristan, I reported it but that's the first time I have done that....I couldn't sem to find anywhere where I could expand on my reason for reporting, the message I could send was limited to very few characters in length.....bummer really....is there a way to tell ebay more?

BASSETHOUNDS · 28 July 2010, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colnago

It's still listed though Tristan, I reported it but that's the first time I have done that....I couldn't sem to find anywhere where I could expand on my reason for reporting, the message I could send was limited to very few characters in length.....bummer really....is there a way to tell ebay more?

No worries , Bill . It has been reported "higher up " You will find that those high feedback sellers take some time to be removed via the public channels .
I'm pretty sure it will be gone by tonight if not earlier .

Colnago · 28 July 2010, 10:39 PM

Tristan...what a star you are mate...look forward to seeing you at the London GTG next year!!

BASSETHOUNDS · 28 July 2010, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colnago

Tristan...what a star you are mate...look forward to seeing you at the London GTG next year!!

Cheers Bill , I'm looking forward to that one too , should be a great one . There is already quite a good crowd pledging to be there .

BASSETHOUNDS · 29 July 2010, 12:08 AM

Sorted

Here you go Bill , that one is for you !

This listing (180537076359) has been removed, or this item is not available.

Colnago · 29 July 2010, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

Sorted

Here you go Bill , that one is for you !

This listing (180537076359) has been removed, or this item is not available.

Tristan......you're my hero!!!!

24 July 2010, 01:23 PM	#1
Colnago "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Bill Hart Location: Richmond, NY, UK Watch: Rlx=3, Tdr=3, Om=3 Posts: 3,053	Help on Tudor 79280P Guys, check this out http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROLEX-TUDOR-PR...item2a08d92a87 I'm just not sure, no "Tudor Prince Geneva" engraving on the case back, no lug holes, 455B end links (isn't that a Rolex end link code anyway?), clasp looks suspect in a couple of ways (length of outer part, stamping on inner).... Wondering, could it be a genuine head on an counterfeit bracelet and end links?.....the links in my other Tudro Jubilee bracelets have curved upper surfaces, this just looks too flat.... __________________ Bill "There's only three kinds of people in this world....those that can count....and those that can't" TRF's "JJ's" Bar & NightClub Patron

24 July 2010, 01:34 PM	#3
Colnago "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Bill Hart Location: Richmond, NY, UK Watch: Rlx=3, Tdr=3, Om=3 Posts: 3,053	Paul I agree, with two reservations, that's the engraving on the case back.....I've never seen one without that...and the fact that there are no lug holes, again I have never seen that....I have a 79280 and a 79260....both have the engraving and the lug holes.......that's only for the head itself.......the bracelet rings all kinds of alarm bells for me __________________ Bill "There's only three kinds of people in this world....those that can count....and those that can't" TRF's "JJ's" Bar & NightClub Patron

24 July 2010, 01:43 PM	#5
Colnago "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Bill Hart Location: Richmond, NY, UK Watch: Rlx=3, Tdr=3, Om=3 Posts: 3,053	Exactly my thoughts Peter....I have contacted the seller and asked for a scan of the document he says he has.....also asked him for photographs of the model and serial numbers....lets see if he comes back to me.....seems a bit suspect that someone already returned it due to the fact they thought it was fake...... One other thing I just noticed from the sellers pictures....the bracelet clasp has 5 adjustment holes.....mine both have 7 __________________ Bill "There's only three kinds of people in this world....those that can count....and those that can't" TRF's "JJ's" Bar & NightClub Patron

24 July 2010, 09:03 PM	#6
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,191	Bill, After further inspection the lack of lug holes, wrong end pieces, rather unusual dial, wrong case back, and wrong box, I'd stay clear of this one. dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

28 July 2010, 09:45 PM	#9
Colnago "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Bill Hart Location: Richmond, NY, UK Watch: Rlx=3, Tdr=3, Om=3 Posts: 3,053	Bump for Tristan __________________ Bill "There's only three kinds of people in this world....those that can count....and those that can't" TRF's "JJ's" Bar & NightClub Patron

24 July 2010, 01:30 PM	#2
ParisDakarBmw Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Paul Location: New Haven, CT Watch: 116610 Sub-C Posts: 6,552	I'm NOT a Tudor pro, but it looks good to me. My only concern is the underside of the end links. A jeweler can close them down to fit snug. I don't see anything to cause me to think it's anything other than a Tudor. Maybe a few pics of the papers would be cool, along with the serial number on the case.

24 July 2010, 01:37 PM	#4
swatty 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Peter Location: Sydney Watch: The Game Posts: 17,415	Interesting Bill, I own a 79280P. My case has lug holes and looks to have a more curved shape looking side on. Case back on mine is engraved. This one certainly does have a few issues IMO

24 July 2010, 09:16 PM	#7
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	I can not even see it , I do not know what happens I get this a lot lately : "Unfortunately, access to this particular item has been blocked due to legal restrictions in some countries. We are blocking your viewing in an effort to prevent restricted items from being displayed. Regrettably, in some cases, we may prevent users from accessing items that are not within the scope of said restrictions because of limitations of existing technology. Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience this may cause, and we hope you may find other items of interest on eBay." Anyway but by the sound of things it is not good , try PM'ing Stan " tudorman8276 " in case he doesn't chime in himself .

28 July 2010, 10:03 PM	#10
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Ok , Bill . Got that one . Plenty of issues .. as it seems there has been a litigation with that watch before .

28 July 2010, 10:16 PM	#11
Colnago "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Bill Hart Location: Richmond, NY, UK Watch: Rlx=3, Tdr=3, Om=3 Posts: 3,053	It's still listed though Tristan, I reported it but that's the first time I have done that....I couldn't sem to find anywhere where I could expand on my reason for reporting, the message I could send was limited to very few characters in length.....bummer really....is there a way to tell ebay more? __________________ Bill "There's only three kinds of people in this world....those that can count....and those that can't" TRF's "JJ's" Bar & NightClub Patron

28 July 2010, 10:39 PM	#13
Colnago "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Bill Hart Location: Richmond, NY, UK Watch: Rlx=3, Tdr=3, Om=3 Posts: 3,053	Tristan...what a star you are mate...look forward to seeing you at the London GTG next year!! __________________ Bill "There's only three kinds of people in this world....those that can count....and those that can't" TRF's "JJ's" Bar & NightClub Patron

29 July 2010, 12:08 AM	#15
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Sorted Here you go Bill , that one is for you ! This listing (180537076359) has been removed, or this item is not available.

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