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robfxlr · 19 April 2007, 10:40 PM

I received a two tone model # 16613 with Black face. Did Rolex ever manufacture this model without the two tone clasp? My band is two tone except for the clasp which I suspect was changed. The model year is 2000 and it has the luminescent markers.

Chris B · 19 April 2007, 11:08 PM

Hi & welcome,

I believe your TT Sub with a total stainless clasp is correct for its year, it was a couple of years after that they introduced the TT clasp. I'm sure that one of the guys will be along to be more specific.

I wouldn't give it a moments concern, the gold on the TT clasp is only plated and in lots of ways (especially as they're no longer being produced) yours looks better, enjoy your TT Sub in good health.

jac67 · 19 April 2007, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robfxlr

I received a two tone model # 16613 with Black face. Did Rolex ever manufacture this model without the two tone clasp? My band is two tone except for the clasp which I suspect was changed. The model year is 2000 and it has the luminescent markers.

Yes, the earlier TT Subs didn't have TT clasp. I can't remember when this changed, but it was around 2002+.

John.

cbrenthus · 19 April 2007, 11:29 PM

I just read a post by JJ where he said that earlier (pre 2000 something) had all steel clasps.

Mr. K · 19 April 2007, 11:58 PM

Does yours also have lug holes in the case too?

robfxlr · 20 April 2007, 12:16 AM

Yes, it has lug holes in the case but, hgas the luminescent number markers, which I bvelieve were added late '99. I just thought all two tones Subs had the two tone all around the bracelet. I am actually glad to have the stainless clasp as it is the most vulnerable place for scratching and is harder than gold.

Thnaks for all the help................

Mr. K · 20 April 2007, 12:17 AM

Heck, you are a proud TT sub owner. That is all that matters!

Enjoy

(like I really needed to tell you that)

Obsession · 20 April 2007, 01:18 AM

And one question now if I will buy a Rolex Blue TT will all yellow parts be gold except the clasp? and is clasp not gold just plate? It s shame to sell a watch for 7800 USD and still some plated parts.

JJ Irani · 20 April 2007, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by aykun325

And one question now if I will buy a Rolex Blue TT will all yellow parts be gold except the clasp? and is clasp not gold just plate? It s shame to sell a watch for 7800 USD and still some plated parts.

Aykun,

A new TT Blue Sub will have the gold running through the clasp. The gold on the clasp is NOT plated - all solid 18 K gold fused with the steel below.

Anything YELLOW on any Rolex is always 18 K gold - NEVER plated!!

JJ

Obsession · 20 April 2007, 05:12 AM

Thank you JJ it could make me change my all ideas about ROLEX I feel better now,I will wear my Blue TT as much as I live so I dont want the clasp worn and torn and yellow of gold to become white of steel as most of the cheap plated watches.

tonelar · 20 April 2007, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robfxlr

Yes, it has lug holes in the case but, hgas the luminescent number markers, which I bvelieve were added late '99.

Hold on a minute... mine is a 93 and has luminescent markers... this doesn't make sense...

robfxlr · 20 April 2007, 05:44 AM

I called a friend/jeweler in the NY Jewelry Exchange. The TT Submariner two tone clasp was initiated in 2003.

19 April 2007, 10:40 PM	#1
robfxlr Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: florida Posts: 61	question about two tone Submariner I received a two tone model # 16613 with Black face. Did Rolex ever manufacture this model without the two tone clasp? My band is two tone except for the clasp which I suspect was changed. The model year is 2000 and it has the luminescent markers.

19 April 2007, 11:29 PM	#4
cbrenthus "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Brandon Location: FL Watch: ing my second hand Posts: 869	I just read a post by JJ where he said that earlier (pre 2000 something) had all steel clasps. __________________ www.bknicholas.com www.myspace.com/bknicholas

19 April 2007, 11:08 PM	#2
Chris B "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Peterborough Posts: 9,631	Hi & welcome, I believe your TT Sub with a total stainless clasp is correct for its year, it was a couple of years after that they introduced the TT clasp. I'm sure that one of the guys will be along to be more specific. I wouldn't give it a moments concern, the gold on the TT clasp is only plated and in lots of ways (especially as they're no longer being produced) yours looks better, enjoy your TT Sub in good health.

19 April 2007, 11:58 PM	#5
Mr. K "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Mark Location: Seattle-ish Posts: 6,078	Does yours also have lug holes in the case too?

20 April 2007, 12:16 AM	#6
robfxlr Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: florida Posts: 61	Yes, it has lug holes in the case but, hgas the luminescent number markers, which I bvelieve were added late '99. I just thought all two tones Subs had the two tone all around the bracelet. I am actually glad to have the stainless clasp as it is the most vulnerable place for scratching and is harder than gold. Thnaks for all the help................

20 April 2007, 12:17 AM	#7
Mr. K "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Mark Location: Seattle-ish Posts: 6,078	Heck, you are a proud TT sub owner. That is all that matters! Enjoy (like I really needed to tell you that)

20 April 2007, 01:18 AM	#8
Obsession Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Aykun Location: Istanbul/Turkey Watch: Tissot Seastar Posts: 804	And one question now if I will buy a Rolex Blue TT will all yellow parts be gold except the clasp? and is clasp not gold just plate? It s shame to sell a watch for 7800 USD and still some plated parts.

20 April 2007, 05:12 AM	#10
Obsession Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Aykun Location: Istanbul/Turkey Watch: Tissot Seastar Posts: 804	Thank you JJ it could make me change my all ideas about ROLEX I feel better now,I will wear my Blue TT as much as I live so I dont want the clasp worn and torn and yellow of gold to become white of steel as most of the cheap plated watches.

20 April 2007, 05:44 AM	#12
robfxlr Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: florida Posts: 61	I called a friend/jeweler in the NY Jewelry Exchange. The TT Submariner two tone clasp was initiated in 2003.

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