Tudor Ranger

[rtemple]

Hello, I am very new to this site you might say a Hatchling-I too have a questionable Ranger-and I would really appreciate your help-I purchased watch from a person who owns a Rolex Service Center in Canada. He purchased from a client of his and does know some history-he has worked on it and serviced it as well-but the 7995 0 case number I understand is questionable, serial number (715962) on other end with stainless steel stamped above,also the dial looks to be in very good condition and he said it is a original Ranger dial and hands-(not refinished)I noticed some darker almost looks like oil around the outside edge of the dial in some places only-not sure on that-anyway the movement (2483)looks genuine (signed in 3 places)and the case back looks good-even comes with one year factory warrenty from Rolex-Tudor. I do have a option of returning it if anyone thinks I should-I would greatly appreciate any information you may have-thankyou.
Rob
PS I have put some pictures in-- hopefully they are ok.

[tudorman8276]

...the case appears genuine, good font etc, no long "E".

...HOWEVER, MY ref material does NOT show the 7995 model as a date watch.

...MY ref material shows the 9050 inclusively as the ONLY model produced as a RANGER.

...it is my contention, that there are industrious folks out there that refinish dials etc to present as Rangers on DIFFERENT models, such as this 7995. OR, they take a genuine Ranger mvmt, dial/hands and place it in a sound case like the one pictured.

...there ARE folks right here on the forum that believe that there were other models produced as Rangers, other than 9050...I SAY NOT. I have NEVER found any other ref material to support their beliefs.

[padi56]

Well just checked back on another forum I belong too and this is a direct quote from James Dowling from about 12 months ago.

James Dowling
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Posts: 144 Don't know if I can add much

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Hi All;

Really, all I can say is that in my 20+ years of dealing with Rolex & Tudor watches, I have yet to see a Ranger with factory red text.

Also, 90+***37; of all the Tudor Rangers I see are completely fake; the movements are original, but nothing else is.




And speaking for myself the only experience I have with the Tudor Ranger for every genuine one there are many many faked ones like the red rangers too.So if you intend to buy one have it checked out first best be safe than sorry.
http://www007.upp.so-net.ne.jp/tudor...e/e_ranger.htm

[onkyo]

Looks like the model number was carved out with a dremel.... and shaky hands.

[rockyn]

rtemple...i just sent you a pm, check it out.

[rtemple]

Hi all, thankyou for all your info and of course The Tudor Man. I did talk to the Rolex Service Center where I bought this watch and he said he can confirm this 7995 case was used in a Ranger model. He is more than positive on this fact he does remember this watch was sold a Swedish Jewellers Edmonton AB Canada.
So with the info available to him even by phone with Rolex in Geneva and his referance material he has he will forward this to me-and of course I will post this information. The fellow seems very genuine and has a great deal of knowledge on Rolex and Tudor watches-so we wait-thankyou all again-Rob.

PS I also have a 5500 Rolex Explorer, and other rare watches-but I noticed on ebay this fellow is selling this 5500 Explorer over and over again-- I have been given the shaft a few times with Tudor and Rolex watches (5 times) I made out OK with ebay and PayPal in the end-but anyway its the explorer listed again today on ebay the watch shows very nice but it has the wrong second hand on it-anyway I thought I would mention this. I emailed him with these questions and he did not respond-its from Hong Kong.

[tudorman8276]

...NOTICE that this is NOT a Ranger!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-ROLEX-TU...item43a1857e5f

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[SLS]

Originally Posted by onkyo

Looks like the model number was carved out with a dremel.... and shaky hands.

Pav, what is weird is that I have seen several Tudors that have had the model numbers look this way. I actually passed on a big block at a great price because of this, which I know regret!
Scott

[adam78]

Originally Posted by tudorman8276

......here is a GENUINE 7995...NOTICE that this is NOT a Ranger!!!

And notice how much more beautiful it is than the likely fake Ranger above?

[rtemple]

Hi again, thanks for the input-other than the case number does the dial, hands and serial number look ok-
Thanks Rob

[rockyn]

Originally Posted by adam78

And notice how much more beautiful it is than the likely fake Ranger above?

This Ranger is not a fake . It is indeed a genuine Tudor Ranger. I know the guy who the o.p. bought it from. He owns an RSC. Rolex Geneva has confirmed this watch to be a genuine Ranger.

[tudorman8276]

...I have documented PROOF that says otherwise.

[rtemple]

Thanks for all the input I have also asked my watch maker in California to look into this-he was with the RSC in Bev Hills until the service center was moved-he is still in good standing with Rolex-services the watches, orders parts, repairs a lot of vintage watches also talks to some huge collectors- I also believe the gentleman I purchased the watch from-its genuine-but I need to exhaust my resources and validate my claim-if possible-thanks Rob.
My watch maker has some interesting information for me already from his referance books from his years of RSC employment-but he will present his case when ready-ethier way-I talked to him for 4 hours or so yesterday on the phone he was very interested and I believe he will look into this in great detail for me.
Thanks again.

[tudorman8276]

...if you could post info here on TRF for everyones review.

...there is so little printed info out there about Tudors.

[rtemple]

Hi Stan, this my intention once my watch maker advises me-hopefully he will post the information himself on this forum for everyone to see.
Thanks Rob.

[crombie]

Will be looking forward to that info, Rob! The Tudor Ranger has always been an intriguing watch to me. Very similiar to the Explorer, and (now) apparently very popular. I'm surprised that a (60's) vintage watch would have as little info available, compared to older models!

[peppermannen]

Found this on another forum:
http://www.mwrforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=27672

This little piece caught my eye:

(*Note: This ref# was also used for standard dress Tudor Prince Oysterdates, exactly as other Ranger ref #s such as 7996/0, 7995/0, 7934/0, etc, were. In fact, Tudor does not seem to have specific ref#s for Ranger models until the later 5-digit 90330, 90020, etc).

But hey, what do I know? Just trying to learn