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d-rock · 12 November 2010, 04:46 PM

Is this for REAL??? Look at the dial....FAKE...BIG TIME...isn't it??
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mens-Model-16610...item1e5f89dae8

Nicko · 12 November 2010, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by d-rock

Is this for REAL??? Look at the dial....FAKE...BIG TIME...isn't it??
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mens-Model-16610...item1e5f89dae8

Dunno, you tell me...IMO, it looks OK. But....I have been fooled before.

mcjp6 · 12 November 2010, 07:49 PM

Any one can report a listing to ebay. Just click on the "Report Item" link under and to the right of the Seller Info.

Saying "Someone needs to report this asap" is OK, but you need to give some reasons??

level · 12 November 2010, 10:53 PM

I'm sure it's older than he says, holes in the lugs, no SEL, and SWISS on the dial. If the dial is correct it might be from 1998 to 2000, although I can't recall seeing a 16610 with "SWISS", but then my memory is not what it use to be.

Nicko · 13 November 2010, 12:02 AM

Come on guys, please have your ducks in a row before throwing out these types of posts. Study up a bit and then come back and comment.

ParisDakarBmw · 13 November 2010, 12:10 AM

Pointed crown guards.........What is the problem with this one???

supercharged · 13 November 2010, 01:24 AM

The item has now ended ?? very strange , did somebody report it ?

Grissom · 13 November 2010, 02:19 AM

I just looked, and it is still there, sold. Does not look like the account has been hijacked. Appears as if the seller is simply selling off some of his personal stuff, along with the usual wares he has been selling over the years.

I am still too much a novice to make any educated comments as to this watch's authenticity, but the account and seller appear ok, to me.

Did it sell for an appropriate price for what it appears to be?

Nicko · 13 November 2010, 06:43 AM

There is nothing wrong with this watch, why all the fuss? I hope this guy didn't end it becuase someone contacted him from here and said they were going to report it. Why don't we educate ourselves before we make libelous comments?

mcjp6 · 13 November 2010, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicko

There is nothing wrong with this watch, why all the fuss? I hope this guy didn't end it becuase someone contacted him from here and said they were going to report it. Why don't we educate ourselves before we make libelous comments?

Not reported by me, in fact I thought the original post a little strange and vehement. hence my earlier question.

It would make things a little easier around here for us if all followed Steve's sticky, especially the 2nd post http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=23163 .

nowzen · 13 November 2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nicko

there is nothing wrong with this watch, why all the fuss? I hope this guy didn't end it becuase someone contacted him from here and said they were going to report it. Why don't we educate ourselves before we make libelous comments?

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hanybad · 13 November 2010, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicko

There is nothing wrong with this watch, why all the fuss? I hope this guy didn't end it becuase someone contacted him from here and said they were going to report it. Why don't we educate ourselves before we make libelous comments?

It didn't end,it was sold for a fair price $3501.00.

d-rock · 14 November 2010, 06:00 AM

Are you SERIOUS !!!??? The minute markers are FAR to bold and pronounced and I can't say I've ever seen a Rolex dial with "Swiss" on it. "Swiss-<T" and "Swiss Made" yes, but just "Swiss"...never seen one like that. Sorry. Next time I will report to eBay myself. (now that I know I can.)

d-rock · 14 November 2010, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by nowzen

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You don't see anything wrong with the watch??? NOW I'm confused!!

d-rock · 14 November 2010, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by level

I'm sure it's older than he says, holes in the lugs, no SEL, and SWISS on the dial. If the dial is correct it might be from 1998 to 2000, although I can't recall seeing a 16610 with "SWISS", but then my memory is not what it use to be.

No, you're memory is fine. There's never BEEN a 16610 with "Swiss" on it. That's my point.

d-rock · 14 November 2010, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mcjp6

Any one can report a listing to ebay. Just click on the "Report Item" link under and to the right of the Seller Info.

Saying "Someone needs to report this asap" is OK, but you need to give some reasons??

Minute markers are all wrong and they didn't make a 16610 that has simply "Swiss" on it. Pre 2002 had the "Swiss-<-T"

freefly · 14 November 2010, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by d-rock

No, you're memory is fine. There's never BEEN a 16610 with "Swiss" on it. That's my point.

Not so sure about that. I have seen plenty "pre-2002" 16610's with just the "Swiss" dial labeling. All the ones I've seen have been A-serials (not sure if there were any other series/years).

A quick search turned these up:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=250717562993

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...2FCi6NkHA%253D

http://hermitagejewelers.com/WatchVi...ProductID=1638

Andad · 14 November 2010, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicko

There is nothing wrong with this watch, why all the fuss? I hope this guy didn't end it becuase someone contacted him from here and said they were going to report it. Why don't we educate ourselves before we make libelous comments?

d-rock · 14 November 2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by freefly

Not so sure about that. I have seen plenty "pre-2002" 16610's with just the "Swiss" dial labeling. All the ones I've seen have been A-serials (not sure if there were any other series/years).

A quick search turned these up:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=250717562993

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...2FCi6NkHA%253D

http://hermitagejewelers.com/WatchVi...ProductID=1638

OK, I stand corrected. "Swiss" was put on Submariner dials. But it doesn't take an expert to see the HIGHLY over pronounced minute markers on the dial. Compare the 3 link listings to the watch I'm certain was a fake. I will be watching for the feedback left (if any) by this watch that caused me to start this thread. And I will keep you posted. I've certainly been wrong before but I've a very good feeling I'm NOT wrong about this one. Thanks for the input. gentleman. Regards.

freefly · 14 November 2010, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by d-rock

But it doesn't take an expert to see the HIGHLY over pronounced minute markers on the dial.

I think what you are seeing is the edge/angular distortion of the crystal at certain angles (very prominent in the 4th picture). If you look at the 3rd picture, you can see the indices are not nearly as large/distorted.

12 November 2010, 04:46 PM	#1
d-rock "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: CONUS Posts: 76	Someone needs to report this asap Is this for REAL??? Look at the dial....FAKE...BIG TIME...isn't it?? http://cgi.ebay.com/Mens-Model-16610...item1e5f89dae8

13 November 2010, 02:19 AM	#8
Grissom "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Nathan Location: US, Latin America Watch: GMT IIc 18K/SS Posts: 3,349	I just looked, and it is still there, sold. Does not look like the account has been hijacked. Appears as if the seller is simply selling off some of his personal stuff, along with the usual wares he has been selling over the years. I am still too much a novice to make any educated comments as to this watch's authenticity, but the account and seller appear ok, to me. Did it sell for an appropriate price for what it appears to be? __________________ *(Member NAWCC since 1976)* 116713LN GMT-IIc 18k/SS (Z) + 116520 SS Daytona (M) + 16700 GMT Master (A) + 16610LV Submariner (V) + 16600 Sea Dweller (Z) + 116400 Milgauss White Dial (V) + 70330N Tudor Heritage Chronograph Grey w/Black Sub Dials (J) + 5513 Submariner Serif Dial (5.2 Mil) Who else needs an Intervention? (109 297) (137 237) (73 115) (221) (23) (56) (229) P-Club Member #5 RIP JJ Irani - TRF Legend

12 November 2010, 07:49 PM	#3
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	Any one can report a listing to ebay. Just click on the "Report Item" link under and to the right of the Seller Info. Saying "Someone needs to report this asap" is OK, but you need to give some reasons??

12 November 2010, 10:53 PM	#4
level Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: U.S. Posts: 296	I'm sure it's older than he says, holes in the lugs, no SEL, and SWISS on the dial. If the dial is correct it might be from 1998 to 2000, although I can't recall seeing a 16610 with "SWISS", but then my memory is not what it use to be.

13 November 2010, 12:02 AM	#5
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	Come on guys, please have your ducks in a row before throwing out these types of posts. Study up a bit and then come back and comment.

13 November 2010, 12:10 AM	#6
ParisDakarBmw Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Paul Location: New Haven, CT Watch: 116610 Sub-C Posts: 6,552	Pointed crown guards.........What is the problem with this one???

13 November 2010, 01:24 AM	#7
supercharged Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Richard Location: Yorkshire,UK Watch: Omega Oris Rolex Posts: 243	The item has now ended ?? very strange , did somebody report it ?

13 November 2010, 06:43 AM	#9
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	There is nothing wrong with this watch, why all the fuss? I hope this guy didn't end it becuase someone contacted him from here and said they were going to report it. Why don't we educate ourselves before we make libelous comments?

14 November 2010, 06:00 AM	#13
d-rock "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: CONUS Posts: 76	Are you SERIOUS !!!??? The minute markers are FAR to bold and pronounced and I can't say I've ever seen a Rolex dial with "Swiss" on it. "Swiss-<T" and "Swiss Made" yes, but just "Swiss"...never seen one like that. Sorry. Next time I will report to eBay myself. (now that I know I can.)

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