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Old 25 November 2010, 08:51 AM   #1
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tough GMT choice...need advice!

Looking at GMT Master 2 16710.

Same dealer has a D series with box but no papers, and a K series with box and papers.

I think the K is about 5 years older.

The watches are the same price, bezel color, and appear to be in similar condition, with the D perhaps 3 or 4% better.

I'm unlikely to sell it in the next 3 to 5 years, if ever (but I always say that). This should be a daily wearer.

Which would you pick? Any guidance from the TRF pros would be greatly appreciated!
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Old 25 November 2010, 08:54 AM   #2
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Identical watches and price?... take the boxes and papers!

Congrats on choosing a great watch!
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Old 25 November 2010, 08:55 AM   #3
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Do you know service history?
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Old 25 November 2010, 09:05 AM   #4
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No, don't know service history. Both were trade-ins at a brick and mortar watch store.
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Old 25 November 2010, 09:08 AM   #5
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If you end up servicing either, specially at an RSC, the papers on the "D" will be just as good as the "K"....

Look at the condition, dings, bracelet wear (all links?), holes / no holes...
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Old 25 November 2010, 09:20 AM   #6
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Same warranty from the retailer?
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Old 25 November 2010, 09:26 AM   #7
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same 1 year warranty..very reputable place
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Old 25 November 2010, 09:29 AM   #8
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If you end up servicing either, specially at an RSC, the papers on the "D" will be just as good as the "K"....

Look at the condition, dings, bracelet wear (all links?), holes / no holes...
Papers from a service at RSC should be just as good to authenticate the piece. I'd buy the newer D model in that case. Most non-Wis won't care too much either way, as long as it is genuine. If you really want the complete package, then buy the K.
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Old 25 November 2010, 10:17 AM   #9
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Papers from a service at RSC should be just as good to authenticate the piece. I'd buy the newer D model in that case. Most non-Wis won't care too much either way, as long as it is genuine. If you really want the complete package, then buy the K.


I am of the opposite view that in the secondary market if he ever wants to sell his 16710, the original books and papers providing the provenance of the watch can add to its resale value or at least to its marketability.
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Old 25 November 2010, 10:43 AM   #10
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K series w/ SEL's and lug holes.
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Old 25 November 2010, 11:10 AM   #11
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Wait. There are plenty more out there. Be more ruthless and wait for what you really want. The papers though are key. Given the choice I would always go for the watch with papers, and would never go for one without. There is no free lunch.
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Old 26 November 2010, 02:05 AM   #12
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Old 26 November 2010, 02:28 AM   #13
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Old 26 November 2010, 02:31 AM   #14
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Old 26 November 2010, 02:32 AM   #15
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I would get the one with B&P's
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Old 26 November 2010, 04:04 AM   #16
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I would definitely get the K with lug holes.
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Old 26 November 2010, 07:18 AM   #17
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What Dan & Kevin said. K with lugholes and sel's.
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Old 26 November 2010, 08:15 AM   #18
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Thanks for all the input. Tough decision, but if I decide to take one of these it will be the K.
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Old 26 November 2010, 08:41 AM   #19
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Good for you. I have a D Series with all provenance. That said, a similarly minty K (with the holeys) and provenance would get the not from me!
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Old 26 November 2010, 09:10 AM   #20
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Identical watches and price?... take the boxes and papers!

Congrats on choosing a great watch!
I would never buy without papers and authentication. Without that, I treat it like a fake. No proof = might as well be fake.
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Old 26 November 2010, 09:43 AM   #21
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I would never buy without papers
This is just my opinion, but paper/no paper is not a deal breaker and long as its authentic.
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