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clock · 13 December 2010, 07:08 AM

Hello,

Why are the polished center links on a Daytona not an issue but a deal breaker for some on the GMT 116710?

Happy Sunday

TheCanadian · 13 December 2010, 07:12 AM

I don't know but I love PCLs on my GMTIIc

Tools · 13 December 2010, 07:19 AM

I don't like them on the Daytona either...........

EchoBlueUK · 13 December 2010, 07:19 AM

Good point - i'd also like to hear people's opinions on this.

B. Doggy · 13 December 2010, 07:31 AM

I personally like PCL's. A nice change of pace.

kcmo · 13 December 2010, 07:38 AM

I love them! But perhaps more folks have an issue with it on the GMT-IIC since it's more 'tool-like' and previous generations all had brushed bracelets.

BarkMaster · 13 December 2010, 08:36 AM

I've heard some say it is too "blingy" for them. Others have pointed out it shows scratches more readily.

I think it looks just fine in its polished stated (unscratched), but it's no bark.

spuds · 13 December 2010, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcmo

I love them! But perhaps more folks have an issue with it on the GMT-IIC since it's more 'tool-like' and previous generations all had brushed bracelets.

Spot on Karis....

Watch Professor · 13 December 2010, 08:42 AM

I think that the PCL's on the GMT dresses up the watch and differentiates it nicely from the Sub. As far as the question re: the Daytona, I think that it's a great question.

nauticajoe · 13 December 2010, 08:47 AM

I like the PCL's in my Daytona.

clock · 13 December 2010, 09:02 AM

Perhaps that's it. Some are disappointed that Rolex turned the GMT from a tool watch into a more of a sharp sport watch.

I never gave the PCL a second thought on the Daytona's I've owned. That was how a Daytona looks, period.
That said, I think when the Daytona first came out ('70's) the bracelet was all brushed?

It seems most Rolex buyers (watch buyers in general) want more of a jewelry piece than the original intent which was for a specific purpose. And we, the enthusiasts are in the tiny minority of buyers.

From my observations, PCL are a love or hate feature, unlike comparing a black or white dial Daytona, GMT vs Sub, etc.

What if Rolex put PCL on the SS Sub/date?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcmo

I love them! But perhaps more folks have an issue with it on the GMT-IIC since it's more 'tool-like' and previous generations all had brushed bracelets.

SaddleSC · 13 December 2010, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcmo

I love them! But perhaps more folks have an issue with it on the GMT-IIC since it's more 'tool-like' and previous generations all had brushed bracelets.

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kcmo · 13 December 2010, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spuds

Spot on Karis....

mike · 13 December 2010, 09:09 AM

I agree with the above that say traditionally the GMT was (is?) considered a tool watch. Not only was the watch designed as a pilot's watch, but was a favored reference with military types back in the day.

Additionally it was a reference frequently accociated with the early astronaut corp and made it's way into space more than once.

Rolex has taken the reference perhaps in a new direction. Not that it's any less a watch than it's predecessors (and maybe in some ways better?), but it certainly has more flash than the days of yore.

Saxon007 · 13 December 2010, 09:25 AM

PCLs on a tool watch are like earrings on a man.

Umm, nevermind...

ParisDakarBmw · 13 December 2010, 09:36 AM

I think it looks good, but shows hairlines too easily.

Z06 · 13 December 2010, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCanadian

I don't know but I love PCLs on my GMTIIc

ME TOO!... BUT...if they bother you, either have them repolished...or unpolished! Problem solved

dddrees · 13 December 2010, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcmo

I love them! But perhaps more folks have an issue with it on the GMT-IIC since it's more 'tool-like' and previous generations all had brushed bracelets.

Not a problem for me, but that would have been my guess.

Joey_V · 13 December 2010, 11:10 AM

Love the PCLs in the watches that they are on. Seems to me like Rolex knows just how to design a watch (IMO).

Great to have PCLs on my GV and my Daytona. Fits them both.

psv · 13 December 2010, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike

I agree with the above that say traditionally the GMT was (is?) considered a tool watch. Not only was the watch designed as a pilot's watch, but was a favored reference with military types back in the day.

Additionally it was a reference frequently accociated with the early astronaut corp and made it's way into space more than once.

Rolex has taken the reference perhaps in a new direction. Not that it's any less a watch than it's predecessors (and maybe in some ways better?), but it certainly has more flash than the days of yore.

Well stated, Mike.

esm · 13 December 2010, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clock

What if Rolex put PCL on the SS Sub/date?

i would still buy it/them

GradyPhilpott · 13 December 2010, 11:18 AM

I got a Jubilee on my DJ largely because I didn't much care for the look of polished center links on the DJ.

Had there not been a choice, it most likely wouldn't have been a deal breaker, but before the advent of the PCLs, I preferred the Oyster on the DJ, rather than the Jubilee.

There may have been some other reasons that influenced my decision, like wanting a watch that was similar to the Explorer, which I already owned, but with enough differences to make them both distinctive.

mfer · 13 December 2010, 11:19 AM

Well, they are for me. I'm selling my IIc and trying to think of what I will replace it with. Too many Rolex have PCL for my taste. Oh well, vintage or other brands will suffice.

Dr. Robert · 13 December 2010, 11:26 AM

The only SS oyster bracelet w/ PCL's I like is on a SS Datejust.......IMHO, SS GMT's & Daytona's look
better w/ non PCL oyster bracelets.

htc8p · 13 December 2010, 12:30 PM

i love it but i wore it walking in an underpass and felt threatened. lesson learned.

JBat · 13 December 2010, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcmo

I love them! But perhaps more folks have an issue with it on the GMT-IIC since it's more 'tool-like' and previous generations all had brushed bracelets.

I think that's exactly it, Karis. It's the change from previous iterations that puts some people off.

13 December 2010, 07:08 AM	#1
clock Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: in a house Posts: 13,510	Discrimination of PCL Hello, Why are the polished center links on a Daytona not an issue but a deal breaker for some on the GMT 116710? Happy Sunday

13 December 2010, 07:19 AM	#3
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	I don't like them on the Daytona either........... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

13 December 2010, 07:31 AM	#5
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	I personally like PCL's. A nice change of pace. __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

13 December 2010, 08:36 AM	#7
BarkMaster "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Texas Watch: 18078 YG DD Posts: 7,962	I've heard some say it is too "blingy" for them. Others have pointed out it shows scratches more readily. I think it looks just fine in its polished stated (unscratched), but it's no bark. __________________ BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK

13 December 2010, 09:25 AM	#15
Saxon007 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 2,002	PCLs on a tool watch are like earrings on a man. Umm, nevermind... __________________ Licensed to kill time.

13 December 2010, 07:12 AM	#2
TheCanadian Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Canada Watch: GMTIIc, TTDJ2 Posts: 186	I don't know but I love PCLs on my GMTIIc

13 December 2010, 07:19 AM	#4
EchoBlueUK "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,543	Good point - i'd also like to hear people's opinions on this.

13 December 2010, 07:38 AM	#6
kcmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Karis Location: USA Posts: 19,377	I love them! But perhaps more folks have an issue with it on the GMT-IIC since it's more 'tool-like' and previous generations all had brushed bracelets.

13 December 2010, 08:42 AM	#9
Watch Professor "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Myron Location: New York Watch: GMT IIC; Sub Date Posts: 3,166	I think that the PCL's on the GMT dresses up the watch and differentiates it nicely from the Sub. As far as the question re: the Daytona, I think that it's a great question.

13 December 2010, 08:47 AM	#10
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	I like the PCL's in my Daytona.

13 December 2010, 09:09 AM	#14
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	I agree with the above that say traditionally the GMT was (is?) considered a tool watch. Not only was the watch designed as a pilot's watch, but was a favored reference with military types back in the day. Additionally it was a reference frequently accociated with the early astronaut corp and made it's way into space more than once. Rolex has taken the reference perhaps in a new direction. Not that it's any less a watch than it's predecessors (and maybe in some ways better?), but it certainly has more flash than the days of yore.

13 December 2010, 09:36 AM	#16
ParisDakarBmw Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Paul Location: New Haven, CT Watch: 116610 Sub-C Posts: 6,552	I think it looks good, but shows hairlines too easily.

13 December 2010, 11:10 AM	#19
Joey_V "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Joey Location: Dallas, TX Watch: SS Sub 16610 M Posts: 3,824	Love the PCLs in the watches that they are on. Seems to me like Rolex knows just how to design a watch (IMO). Great to have PCLs on my GV and my Daytona. Fits them both. __________________ Current Rotation: Rolex Submariner Date (M) - 1/08, Rolex Milgauss GV (V) - 2/10, Rolex SS Black Daytona (V) - 6/10, Rolex GMTIIC (G) - 5/11, TAG Heuer Silverstone (286/1860) - 1/2015 Former-watches: Omega PO/2535.80/2254, TAG Carrera/F1x2/Monaco, Panerai 312K/292L Wish List: Panerai 270/505, Rolex SMURF, Rolex RG Daytona, Rolex DSSD

13 December 2010, 11:18 AM	#22
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK050 Posts: 34,460	I got a Jubilee on my DJ largely because I didn't much care for the look of polished center links on the DJ. Had there not been a choice, it most likely wouldn't have been a deal breaker, but before the advent of the PCLs, I preferred the Oyster on the DJ, rather than the Jubilee. There may have been some other reasons that influenced my decision, like wanting a watch that was similar to the Explorer, which I already owned, but with enough differences to make them both distinctive. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

13 December 2010, 11:19 AM	#23
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	Well, they are for me. I'm selling my IIc and trying to think of what I will replace it with. Too many Rolex have PCL for my taste. Oh well, vintage or other brands will suffice. __________________ member#3242

13 December 2010, 11:26 AM	#24
Dr. Robert 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 64,248	The only SS oyster bracelet w/ PCL's I like is on a SS Datejust.......IMHO, SS GMT's & Daytona's look better w/ non PCL oyster bracelets. __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

13 December 2010, 12:30 PM	#25
htc8p "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Bert Location: philippines Watch: 116710 ln Posts: 3,472	i love it but i wore it walking in an underpass and felt threatened. lesson learned.

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