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Old 16 December 2010, 05:19 AM   #1
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Is 2 explorers 2 too much of exploration ?

I have a black explorer 2 with new novement. I like it a lot. I bought it before the price increase for 3 600 euros on the grey market. Now the same watch is sold 4 250 euros by the same seller. So good deal.

The same seller is selling now a second hand white explorer 2 from 2008 (with the old movement so) in "new" shape. The watch was sold buy an AD in 2010 and is therefore under Rolex warranty till 2012. The price is 3 400 euros.

My questions are :

1) Is 2 explorers 2 too much ?

2) Is the price a good price ?

3) Would you buy an explorer 2 with the old movement or prefer the new one because it may hold its value better in a few years .

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Old 16 December 2010, 05:33 AM   #2
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I think that if there is a Black Explorer II, and a white Explorer II, then having 2 is the correct number... or more...



And at least one of them should have a clear case-back....

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Old 16 December 2010, 10:00 AM   #3
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Of course it`s not too much, white one is very beautiful watch, and only sport Rolex with white dial.
About movement...well, it`s basically the same, I really don`t think that there will be any difference in keeping value for both of them.

And check out Larry`s pics, I mean...what is better than Explorer II?
TWO Explorers II of course!
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Old 16 December 2010, 10:06 AM   #4
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Alot of people have more than one Sub, or Sea Dweller, or even GMT.

I am considering getting either a vintage Sub or GMT and I already have a modern one of each.

Whatever trips your trigger, only you can decide.
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Old 16 December 2010, 10:09 AM   #5
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I love the white EXP II
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Old 16 December 2010, 02:01 PM   #6
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No such thing as too much exploration! If you can afford it, buy it :) I think it would compliment the black exp II
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Old 16 December 2010, 03:37 PM   #7
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Of course it`s not too much, white one is very beautiful watch, and only sport Rolex with white dial.
About movement...well, it`s basically the same, I really don`t think that there will be any difference in keeping value for both of them.

And check out Larry`s pics, I mean...what is better than Explorer II?
TWO Explorers II of course!
By the way, where can one buy a Rolex in Serbia and what are the prices ?

I checked online and never found any shop.

I know that the movement is the same but if you look at the prices of the GMT2, there is a big difference of price between the old and new movement. So may be that one the explorer 2 is discontinued, it will be similar ?

(cuo sam da u hnez Miheolovu ima neka radnja sto prodaje dobre marke, ne znam da li imaju Rolex ali ne odgovaraju na email !)
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Old 16 December 2010, 03:55 PM   #8
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Buy the watches you like and have fun doing it. I really like the white dial on the Explorer II so one in each color would be cool. As for one movement being more collectable over the other one...they made quite a few of both movements so neither are going to be rare. Now as for price...I have no idea what your market is like in Europe!!!
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2 explorer 2's are not too much........


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Old 16 December 2010, 05:27 PM   #10
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2 explorer 2's are not too much........


and...................

Are you a psychiatrist ?
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Old 16 December 2010, 06:20 PM   #11
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Can't see any problem with having two. I have a black with latest movement and an earlier white - too.

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Old 16 December 2010, 08:19 PM   #12
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I love my Exp II, it's the most comfy watch ever

if you're thinking of getting one, do it
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Old 16 December 2010, 08:26 PM   #13
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Yep, Larry's pix makes sense.

We all know that 2 is better than 1

Go for it mate.

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Of course it`s not too much, white one is very beautiful watch, and only sport Rolex with white dial.
Actually, 116520 White dial also springs to mind.....
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Old 16 December 2010, 11:01 PM   #14
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By the way, where can one buy a Rolex in Serbia and what are the prices ?

I checked online and never found any shop.

I know that the movement is the same but if you look at the prices of the GMT2, there is a big difference of price between the old and new movement. So may be that one the explorer 2 is discontinued, it will be similar ?

(cuo sam da u hnez Miheolovu ima neka radnja sto prodaje dobre marke, ne znam da li imaju Rolex ali ne odgovaraju na email !)
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Let`s write in our language:

Postoji radnja blizu Knez Mihajlove (Uskocka ulica), "Petite Geneve" koja je AD iskljucivo za Rolex. Evo linka za njihov sajt

http://www.petitegeneve.com/

Cene su prilicno korektne!

Sve najbolje, all the best!
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Old 16 December 2010, 11:14 PM   #15
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Hello there!
Let`s write in our language:

Postoji radnja blizu Knez Mihajlove (Uskocka ulica), "Petite Geneve" koja je AD iskljucivo za Rolex. Evo linka za njihov sajt

http://www.petitegeneve.com/

Cene su prilicno korektne!

Sve najbolje, all the best!
Thanks for your help.

In France the Explorer 2 is now 5 050 euros. How much is it in Belgrad ? What about the Daytona in steel ?
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Old 17 December 2010, 01:33 AM   #16
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I think that it`s cheaper here, but I`m not 100% sure. I was at AD before prices increase, so I really don`t know how much is it now.
And I never saw SS Daytona in Belgrade`s AD.
Anyway...have you consider buying used or grey market Explorer II?
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Old 17 December 2010, 06:59 AM   #17
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I think that it`s cheaper here, but I`m not 100% sure. I was at AD before prices increase, so I really don`t know how much is it now.
And I never saw SS Daytona in Belgrade`s AD.
Anyway...have you consider buying used or grey market Explorer II?
I invested some money in Serbia 20 years ago and I plane to bring the money back. If I get a bank wire of $80 000 euros from Serbia, the taxman will steal at least 20% of the profit.

With 8 Daytonas, the taxman will see nothing unless the buyer who will buy from me is caught by the custom when he travels.

Is there inly 1 AD in Serbia ?
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Old 17 December 2010, 08:08 AM   #18
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The same seller is selling now a second hand white explorer 2 from 2008 (with the old movement so) in "new" shape.
I had a late Z serial number which would put production in mid-2007. I verified it had the 3186 movement. Therefore, the white Exp II from 2008 would be the new movement.

The new movement, is really a minor enhancement to the existing movement and is more of a marketing ploy IMO. Nothing wrong with the 3185. The new parachrome spring is a nice feature, but the improvement in the hour movement is lost on me. I have had a number of both variants and have not been able to tell the difference in operation.

That is what the "II" stands for in Explorer II. You should own two.

The price is good, and being already in the EU is a big plus.
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Old 17 December 2010, 08:30 AM   #19
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I had a late Z serial number which would put production in mid-2007. I verified it had the 3186 movement. Therefore, the white Exp II from 2008 would be the new movement.
Interesing. Thanks.

I don't know the letter, the seller just tells that it is from 2008 and has Rolex papers. I asked a discount as it was the old movement, he didn't tell me that it was the new one and agreed to give me 100 euros off. The seller is a grey dealer. He didn't open the watch so.

Are you sure that all watches from 2008 have the new movement ?


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The new movement, is really a minor enhancement to the existing movement and is more of a marketing ploy IMO. Nothing wrong with the 3185. The new parachrome spring is a nice feature, but the improvement in the hour movement is lost on me. I have had a number of both variants and have not been able to tell the difference in operation.
I know. My new explorer 2 is lonsing 5 seconds per day... It was more thinking about the the resell value once the watch is not sold anymore new.

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That is what the "II" stands for in Explorer II. You should own two.
Good argument !

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The price is good, and being already in the EU is a big plus.
True for the EU. And the seller is 100% reliable.

But do I really like white snow ? I find the dial a little empty in real life. That's why I took the black last time.
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Old 17 December 2010, 10:27 AM   #20
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Wait a sec, how'd you end up with 4 of them???!!!
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Old 17 December 2010, 06:40 PM   #21
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I have a black explorer 2 with new novement. I like it a lot. I bought it before the price increase for 3 600 euros on the grey market. Now the same watch is sold 4 250 euros by the same seller. So good deal.

The same seller is selling now a second hand white explorer 2 from 2008 (with the old movement so) in "new" shape. The watch was sold buy an AD in 2010 and is therefore under Rolex warranty till 2012. The price is 3 400 euros.

My questions are :

1) Is 2 explorers 2 too much ?

2) Is the price a good price ?

3) Would you buy an explorer 2 with the old movement or prefer the new one because it may hold its value better in a few years .

Thanks
1. Nope. Two is not too much:



2. In Europe, it sounds like a good price for a LNIB.

3. Both calibers are very good. I would not be bothered, and would say that the value will not be based on the caliber. Both watches will be serviced by RSC for many, many years ahead.

Best,

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Old 17 December 2010, 07:34 PM   #22
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Old 17 December 2010, 09:41 PM   #23
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I don't see a problem.
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Old 17 December 2010, 10:25 PM   #24
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No, two Exp II's is perfectly normal. I am after a early noir 16570.

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Old 17 December 2010, 10:37 PM   #25
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How about a 3rd Explorer II.
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