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Mosco · 27 November 2010, 12:20 AM

So - as many of us know, around the same time Rolex took out the lug-holes on a TT sub AND added gold through the clasp. If I'm not mistaking, Y-serial year (2003-2004) is when it happened. But did Rolex make those changes simultaneously? Are there 16613's with only ONE of those improvements? If so, which came first? I THANK YOU in advance for your input.

In case anyone is wondering, I am asking because I want to be buried with a TT Sub, but don't want the soil to get into the lugholes....

Puffy · 27 November 2010, 12:37 AM

hmm..

that's an interesting questions Greg... i don't know sorry mate

Mosco · 27 November 2010, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Puffy

hmm..

that's an interesting questions Greg... i don't know sorry mate

That's alright Buddy Anders - I do this for a living and I STILL don't know!

Wolfgang427 · 27 November 2010, 04:58 AM

Greg, the gold thru the clasp came first on the GMT(U-series) followed by the Sub with the following series(A). Both still had the lug holes.

PRVPAGE · 27 November 2010, 05:00 AM

I think the SEL came first. I have seen versions of the 16613 with lug holes w/SEL....Maybe A series??

greekbum · 27 November 2010, 05:25 AM

Some A series 16613 had SEL bracelets others did not. It was at the end of the A series production run that the SEL was introduced. Y serial same pattern most (90%) Y's had holes in the case but the end of the Y series production run had no holes cases.(marked 16613 T)
F serial and after all have No Holes /SEL 100%

Mosco · 27 November 2010, 06:21 AM

Wolf, PRV and Nikos - thanks fellas! That helps alot. Was looking at one for a friend, a cheepy, but I think the lugholes must go... So F and on it is!

moviefreak · 27 November 2010, 09:59 AM

Y series 16613 SEL and Lug Holes...

nch209 · 23 January 2011, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by moviefreak

Y series 16613 SEL and Lug Holes...

Some LATE Y 16610's and 16710's had no holes cases.... was the Y 16613 an exception and always have holes as a Y? Sorry to bring up an old thread- but just curious!

TempoKing · 23 January 2011, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by greekbum

Some A series 16613 had SEL bracelets others did not. It was at the end of the A series production run that the SEL was introduced. Y serial same pattern most (90%) Y's had holes in the case but the end of the Y series production run had no holes cases.(marked 16613 T)
F serial and after all have No Holes /SEL 100%

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.............Nick... I trully believe you are slowly becoming a "Rolex Guru"..

nch209 · 25 January 2011, 05:02 PM

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.............Nick... I trully believe you are slowly becoming a "Rolex Guru"..

What a compliment, Nick! Tempoking- a true ROLEX KING! I think this guy knows all there is to know about R O L E X!

-n8

27 November 2010, 12:20 AM	#1
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	16613 question So - as many of us know, around the same time Rolex took out the lug-holes on a TT sub AND added gold through the clasp. If I'm not mistaking, Y-serial year (2003-2004) is when it happened. But did Rolex make those changes simultaneously? Are there 16613's with only ONE of those improvements? If so, which came first? I THANK YOU in advance for your input. In case anyone is wondering, I am asking because I want to be buried with a TT Sub, but don't want the soil to get into the lugholes.... __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

27 November 2010, 12:37 AM	#2
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	hmm.. that's an interesting questions Greg... i don't know sorry mate __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

27 November 2010, 04:58 AM	#4
Wolfgang427 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Wolfgang Location: New Jersey. Watch: Rolex Tudor Omega Posts: 5,592	Greg, the gold thru the clasp came first on the GMT(U-series) followed by the Sub with the following series(A). Both still had the lug holes. __________________ TRF member #917

27 November 2010, 05:25 AM	#6
greekbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Nikos Location: Florida Watch: Rolex GMT 16750 Posts: 8,418	Some A series 16613 had SEL bracelets others did not. It was at the end of the A series production run that the SEL was introduced. Y serial same pattern most (90%) Y's had holes in the case but the end of the Y series production run had no holes cases.(marked 16613 T) F serial and after all have No Holes /SEL 100% __________________ Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 13,000 Days And Counting

27 November 2010, 06:21 AM	#7
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	Wolf, PRV and Nikos - thanks fellas! That helps alot. Was looking at one for a friend, a cheepy, but I think the lugholes must go... So F and on it is! __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

27 November 2010, 05:00 AM	#5
PRVPAGE "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: USA Posts: 32	I think the SEL came first. I have seen versions of the 16613 with lug holes w/SEL....Maybe A series??

27 November 2010, 09:59 AM	#8
moviefreak "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: in my house... Posts: 5,524	Y series 16613 SEL and Lug Holes... __________________ Cheers, Eduardo Be a WIS not a WUSS... and remove all the stickers..

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