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lobsta · 15 February 2011, 06:57 AM

I am looking to make my first purchase. 2008 Brand New Yachtmaster 168623 w/Blue Dial. I am told retail is exact same as a 2009/2010 model, but they will give me a "deal" if I purchase the 2008 they have in stock. This is a very reputable jeweler, authorized Rolex retailer. Can any advise what I should expect for a discount off list? I do not see the benefit of purchasing a 2 year old model that is "brand new" unless there is a significant incentive.

RRGHOST1 · 15 February 2011, 10:33 AM

As long as it was a BNIB Yachtmaster wouldn't really bother me what year it was. So have they mentioned what deal they will give you, on obviously old stock to them ? Tell them you will deal for a 20% minimum discount. The fact it is a TT model, they might go for it off list. A nice watch and a good colour dial by the way for that model.

Jason71 · 15 February 2011, 10:37 AM

I agree.........20% off should be a good price to shoot for

TRW · 15 February 2011, 10:45 AM

You Gave Us a Number,But I still don't Know what You are Looking For

JJL · 15 February 2011, 10:55 AM

Does the 08 model have the ROLEXROLEXROLEX and serial number engraved in the rehaut?

I know the newer models do, but I don't know when that started.

Not sure if you prefer the engraving or not, but you might want to check into that.

my 2 cents, good luck!!

gqllc · 15 February 2011, 11:12 AM

I have seen pretty decent discounts on the TT Yachtmasters. You could look here is the classifieds and even check ebay for prices...(not endorsing for purchase). It is the new release SS sport Rolex's that are more difficult to get discounts on at least in this area.

imono · 15 February 2011, 11:14 AM

If it has the ROLEXROLEX rehaut then you can see the serial number.
If there is no ROLEXROLEX then it is an older model.
Retail price for the 2008 16823 was $9050.00
Retail price for the 2010 16823 is $9800.00
A little cheaper if it is equip with a lady's bracelet.

lobsta · 15 February 2011, 12:39 PM

Thanks for the posts! It does have the serial # and rolex etched rehaut. Last time I spoke to the rep we were at $9300, I asked him if there was a difference in price between this and one I would order (a 2010), he told me there is not. I asked why I would purchase a 2008 instead of a 2010 and he told me I can get a better deal on the 08'. I was under the impression there was little to no wiggle room on a new Rolex, which is why I am posting here. I was told list is $11 and change...

gqllc · 15 February 2011, 12:42 PM

For example here is a pre owned. I have bought from him before. Is this like the one you are looking at?
http://cgi.ebay.com/MidSize-18kt-Gol...item4cf4cfa0ab

MonBK · 15 February 2011, 12:44 PM

Are we talking about the 16623 or the midsize 168623?

List is $10,875 on the 40 mm and $9,800 on the midsize.

lobsta · 15 February 2011, 12:59 PM

Sorry for the confusion, it is 40mm. I do not have the knowledge or confidence to purchase a pre-owned (as you can tell). I figured the first would be brand new. It seems like 20% is the consensus... however I think they are already taking off 10-12%. I should have posted with more concrete numbers; I have been shopping around so much everything is starting to blend together. I will probably go with a 2010 unless there is a good $1k+ diff in price.

MortgageGuy · 15 February 2011, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonBK

Are we talking about the 16623 or the midsize 168623?

List is $10,875 on the 40 mm and $9,800 on the midsize.

If the midsize I would say 20-25 off of todays prices... this would be fair IMO. Also depends on your intentions with the watch. If you are going to keep for years, who cares about the serial. If you plan to flip in the future it could be an issue

lobsta · 15 February 2011, 01:11 PM

My mistake, it is a 40mm. I think this just shows my lack of knowledge and desperate need for advice.

JJ Irani · 15 February 2011, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MortgageGuy

If the midsize I would say 20-25 off of todays prices... this would be fair IMO. Also depends on your intentions with the watch. If you are going to keep for years, who cares about the serial. If you plan to flip in the future it could be an issue

Adam is right. The 35 mm models aren't popular at all and very hard to get rid off.

Besides, the 40 mm is fitted with the 3135 calibre (same as the Sub-date), whereas the 35 and 29 mm have the 2235 (ladies movement) incorporated into them.

My suggestion? Go for the 40 mm.

JJ

MonBK · 15 February 2011, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lobsta

My mistake, it is a 40mm. I think this just shows my lack of knowledge and desperate need for advice.

That's what I thought and don't worry, that's what we are here for.

JJ Irani · 15 February 2011, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonBK

That's what I thought and don't worry, that's what we are here for.

Good advice is never desperate, only necessary, my friend!!

lobsta · 15 February 2011, 01:23 PM

Thanks for the help! I have no intentions of getting anything other than the 40mm (just screwed up the model #'s). I think 25% is a good target, I am already at 10-12% with a 2010 model, looking for a little more incentive on the 08'.

MonBK · 15 February 2011, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Good advice is never desperate, only necessary, my friend!!

Good to see your smiling face MT.

MonBK · 15 February 2011, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lobsta

Thanks for the help! I have no intentions of getting anything other than the 40mm (just screwed up the model #'s). I think 25% is a good target, I am already at 10-12% with a 2010 model, looking for a little more incentive on the 08'.

25% is a good goal but I would settle for 20%.

lobsta · 15 February 2011, 01:40 PM

Is it true there are no "discounts" on a New Rolex from an authorized retailer? We have been talking about an old inventory item, what about an new order?

JJ Irani · 15 February 2011, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lobsta

Is it true there are no "discounts" on a New Rolex from an authorized retailer? We have been talking about an old inventory item, what about an new order?

In these desperate times of recession, rest assured there will always be discounts. If you think you are despeate to make a purchase, you should see how desperate the ADs are to roll over their stock.

JJ

MonBK · 15 February 2011, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lobsta

Is it true there are no "discounts" on a New Rolex from an authorized retailer? We have been talking about an old inventory item, what about an new order?

No, it's not true, it varies from dealer to dealer.

15 February 2011, 06:57 AM	#1
lobsta "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Boston Posts: 19	What do I pay? 08' YM 168623 I am looking to make my first purchase. 2008 Brand New Yachtmaster 168623 w/Blue Dial. I am told retail is exact same as a 2009/2010 model, but they will give me a "deal" if I purchase the 2008 they have in stock. This is a very reputable jeweler, authorized Rolex retailer. Can any advise what I should expect for a discount off list? I do not see the benefit of purchasing a 2 year old model that is "brand new" unless there is a significant incentive.

15 February 2011, 10:37 AM	#3
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	I agree.........20% off should be a good price to shoot for __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

15 February 2011, 11:12 AM	#6
gqllc "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Steve Location: Albany NY Watch: Blue Bezel SubC Posts: 1,511	I have seen pretty decent discounts on the TT Yachtmasters. You could look here is the classifieds and even check ebay for prices...(not endorsing for purchase). It is the new release SS sport Rolex's that are more difficult to get discounts on at least in this area. __________________ K-TT Datejust, Random Blue Bezel SubC

15 February 2011, 12:42 PM	#9
gqllc "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Steve Location: Albany NY Watch: Blue Bezel SubC Posts: 1,511	For example here is a pre owned. I have bought from him before. Is this like the one you are looking at? http://cgi.ebay.com/MidSize-18kt-Gol...item4cf4cfa0ab __________________ K-TT Datejust, Random Blue Bezel SubC

15 February 2011, 10:33 AM	#2
RRGHOST1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: luke standing Location: england Watch: Rolex TT SubC Blue Posts: 3,997	As long as it was a BNIB Yachtmaster wouldn't really bother me what year it was. So have they mentioned what deal they will give you, on obviously old stock to them ? Tell them you will deal for a 20% minimum discount. The fact it is a TT model, they might go for it off list. A nice watch and a good colour dial by the way for that model.

15 February 2011, 10:45 AM	#4
TRW Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Tim Location: tennessee Watch: 16623 YM Posts: 3,630	You Gave Us a Number,But I still don't Know what You are Looking For

15 February 2011, 10:55 AM	#5
JJL "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: US Watch: 1680 Red & 16622 Posts: 2,449	Does the 08 model have the ROLEXROLEXROLEX and serial number engraved in the rehaut? I know the newer models do, but I don't know when that started. Not sure if you prefer the engraving or not, but you might want to check into that. my 2 cents, good luck!!

15 February 2011, 11:14 AM	#7
imono "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA Posts: 3,241	If it has the ROLEXROLEX rehaut then you can see the serial number. If there is no ROLEXROLEX then it is an older model. Retail price for the 2008 16823 was $9050.00 Retail price for the 2010 16823 is $9800.00 A little cheaper if it is equip with a lady's bracelet.

15 February 2011, 12:39 PM	#8
lobsta "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Boston Posts: 19	Thanks for the posts! It does have the serial # and rolex etched rehaut. Last time I spoke to the rep we were at $9300, I asked him if there was a difference in price between this and one I would order (a 2010), he told me there is not. I asked why I would purchase a 2008 instead of a 2010 and he told me I can get a better deal on the 08'. I was under the impression there was little to no wiggle room on a new Rolex, which is why I am posting here. I was told list is $11 and change...

15 February 2011, 12:44 PM	#10
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	Are we talking about the 16623 or the midsize 168623? List is $10,875 on the 40 mm and $9,800 on the midsize.

15 February 2011, 12:59 PM	#11
lobsta "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Boston Posts: 19	Sorry for the confusion, it is 40mm. I do not have the knowledge or confidence to purchase a pre-owned (as you can tell). I figured the first would be brand new. It seems like 20% is the consensus... however I think they are already taking off 10-12%. I should have posted with more concrete numbers; I have been shopping around so much everything is starting to blend together. I will probably go with a 2010 unless there is a good $1k+ diff in price.

15 February 2011, 01:11 PM	#13
lobsta "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Boston Posts: 19	My mistake, it is a 40mm. I think this just shows my lack of knowledge and desperate need for advice.

15 February 2011, 01:23 PM	#17
lobsta "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Boston Posts: 19	Thanks for the help! I have no intentions of getting anything other than the 40mm (just screwed up the model #'s). I think 25% is a good target, I am already at 10-12% with a 2010 model, looking for a little more incentive on the 08'.

15 February 2011, 01:40 PM	#20
lobsta "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Boston Posts: 19	Is it true there are no "discounts" on a New Rolex from an authorized retailer? We have been talking about an old inventory item, what about an new order?

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