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ATH · 30 March 2011, 02:42 PM

I bought a Z series 16613 with slate serti dial a few weeks ago from a well known forum member. The watch arrived as described with all accessories. I was looking at the markings tonight and noticed that neither of the end pieces on the SEL bracelet are stamped with "93253" nor stamped with anything at all? The clasp has the proper code and what appear to be the other proper markings. My question is should a Z series TT submariner have the bracelet code stamped on both end pieces? Thanks all in advance for any help- it is much appreciated.

Andrew

moviefreak · 30 March 2011, 02:47 PM

Yuo it is fine... Newer models did not have that..

Paulie 50 · 30 March 2011, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ATH

I bought a Z series 16613 with slate serti dial a few weeks ago from a well known forum member. The watch arrived as described with all accessories. I was looking at the markings tonight and noticed that neither of the end pieces on the SEL bracelet are stamped with "93253" nor stamped with anything at all? The clasp has the proper code and what appear to be the other proper markings. My question is should a Z series TT submariner have the bracelet code stamped on both end pieces? Thanks all in advance for any help- it is much appreciated.

Andrew

By asking this question on an open forum, you must surely realise that you are doubting the sellers integrity. Why not ask him?

Puffy · 30 March 2011, 06:04 PM

it's all fine

ATH · 30 March 2011, 11:35 PM

Actually that is not the case at all. I'm 100% certain about the seller. What I don't know is did he get taken and maybe flipped the watch to me without knowing?

This happens all the time out here with counterfeits being of unsurpassed quality.

Understand? Next time don't jump to conclusions Paulie about what other people "surely realize". Thanks

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Originally Posted by Paulie 50

By asking this question on an open forum, you must surely realise that you are doubting the sellers integrity. Why not ask him?

Dan Pierce · 30 March 2011, 11:41 PM

SELs don't have #'s, only the bracelet.
dP

padi56 · 30 March 2011, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

SELs don't have #'s, only the bracelet.
dP

X2 Dan, and thats what the original poster should have asked first IMHO .

CoopJr · 31 March 2011, 12:22 AM

They could also be stamped on the inside of the link...in other words, the portion of the SEL that faces the case.

chicfarmer1 · 31 March 2011, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ATH

I'm 100% certain about the seller. What I don't know is did he get taken and maybe flipped the watch to me without knowing?

This happens all the time out here with counterfeits being of unsurpassed quality.

Understand?

For my money you just did it again. You can't be "100%" and then simultaneously suggest that the seller maybe couldn't discern real from fake.

I do think this question should have been presented to your dealer, out of common courtesy. At least you could've asked it as a general information question on this thread, vs. explicitly linking it to a specific purchase.

ATH · 31 March 2011, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by chicfarmer1

For my money you just did it again. You can't be "100%" and then simultaneously suggest that the seller maybe couldn't discern real from fake.

I do think this question should have been presented to your dealer, out of common courtesy. At least you could've asked it as a general information question on this thread, vs. explicitly linking it to a specific purchase.

You are missing what should be a very simple concept concerning integrity vs. inadvertent error, so let me spell it out for you: I am 100% certain about the seller's integrity; I was uncertain as to whether the seller could have been victimized when he picked up the watch and simply not realized it before selling it to me. Hopefully that clears it up for you.

ATH · 31 March 2011, 04:09 AM

Thanks everyone for the information. Most of you were very helpful in resolving things in my mind. It's great to have a forum like this where such a vast amount of information is readily available. Best,

Andrew

Tools · 31 March 2011, 04:52 AM

Up until a few years ago, Rolex did stamp the last link on the bracelet.. It was a carry-over from the separate end-link days to ensure that you mated like parts..

Newer models do not have a stamp, it is stamped on the attached end-link at the end. You need to take the bracelet off to see it..

Older SEL... note the link stamp: (ignore the arrow.. that points to a nick I did not want polished out during a RSC refinish)

Recent SEL... note, no link stamp:

imono · 31 March 2011, 06:21 AM

These end links are from a SS GMT.

30 March 2011, 02:42 PM	#1
ATH Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: oklahoma Posts: 61	Question for the experts . . . I bought a Z series 16613 with slate serti dial a few weeks ago from a well known forum member. The watch arrived as described with all accessories. I was looking at the markings tonight and noticed that neither of the end pieces on the SEL bracelet are stamped with "93253" nor stamped with anything at all? The clasp has the proper code and what appear to be the other proper markings. My question is should a Z series TT submariner have the bracelet code stamped on both end pieces? Thanks all in advance for any help- it is much appreciated. Andrew

30 March 2011, 02:47 PM	#2
moviefreak "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: in my house... Posts: 5,524	Yuo it is fine... Newer models did not have that.. __________________ Cheers, Eduardo Be a WIS not a WUSS... and remove all the stickers..

30 March 2011, 06:04 PM	#4
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	it's all fine __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

30 March 2011, 11:41 PM	#6
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,215	SELs don't have #'s, only the bracelet. dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

31 March 2011, 04:52 AM	#12
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Up until a few years ago, Rolex did stamp the last link on the bracelet.. It was a carry-over from the separate end-link days to ensure that you mated like parts.. Newer models do not have a stamp, it is stamped on the attached end-link at the end. You need to take the bracelet off to see it.. Older SEL... note the link stamp: (ignore the arrow.. that points to a nick I did not want polished out during a RSC refinish) Recent SEL... note, no link stamp: __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

31 March 2011, 12:22 AM	#8
CoopJr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Coop Location: U.S.A. Watch: Subs Posts: 6,455	They could also be stamped on the inside of the link...in other words, the portion of the SEL that faces the case.

31 March 2011, 04:09 AM	#11
ATH Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: oklahoma Posts: 61	Thanks everyone for the information. Most of you were very helpful in resolving things in my mind. It's great to have a forum like this where such a vast amount of information is readily available. Best, Andrew

31 March 2011, 06:21 AM	#13
imono "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA Posts: 3,241	These end links are from a SS GMT. Attached Images

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