Magnetic field and Automatic (insert brand name here) watch

[esm]

apologies in advance - having one of those "unable to search" days..

need expert advice here regarding to Magnetic field's affect to automatic watches.

household items like iPod Docking Station and TV - how close to the watch will affect the watch?

how about those Sports Magnetic Bracelets (the one sort of reliefs the pain)? will having it on the other wrist affect the watch?

how about Mobile Phone with speaker phone function? will that affect the watches also?

thanks

[horseco]

Milgauss...

[esm]

Originally Posted by horseco

Milgauss...

Thank you for taking the first bite... But that does not answer any of my questions...

(yes, I know what 116400 was made for)

[horseco]

IWC Ingenieur Automatic Mission Earth?

[mitchy]

You will be fine to put your watch close to iPod speakers and a docking station, if you have an old cathode ray tv then I'd not keep it planted next to it but it should be ok for a few seconds.
As for the sport bracelets the jury's still out my friend who's is a qualified watch maker 20+ years put his next to a bond seamaster and it was fine but when he wore his vintage omega (1970?) it became erratic and was magnetized soo I'd steer clear if your not wearing the milguass


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[dsio]

I sit my watches on top of a large Magnat Center speaker from a 5.1 system, rated at about 380W RMS, in two years of doing that nothing has happened, and they're literally like two inches of wood away from a pair of big ass magnets.

[dsio]

To follow that up from wikipedia:

Far away from a magnet, the magnetic field created by that magnet is almost always described (to a good approximation) by a dipole field characterized by its total magnetic moment. This is true regardless of the shape of the magnet, so long as the magnetic moment is non-zero. One characteristic of a dipole field is that the strength of the field falls off inversely with the cube of the distance from the magnet's center.
Closer to the magnet, the magnetic field becomes more complicated and more dependent on the detailed shape and magnetization of the magnet. Formally, the field can be expressed as a multipole expansion: A dipole field, plus a quadrupole field, plus an octupole field, etc.
At close range, many different fields are possible. For example, for a long, skinny bar magnet with its north pole at one end and south pole at the other, the magnetic field near either end falls off inversely with the square of the distance from that pole.

So even aside from the fact that the speaker in your phone/ipod dock / TV is so small and piddly that it probably couldn't pick up a paperclip, the field strength dissipates dramatically with distance, which is why the 2KG odd strontium magnets sitting a very small distance away from my Submariner have done nothing at all in two years.

[htc8p]

Originally Posted by esm

apologies in advance - having one of those "unable to search" days..

need expert advice here regarding to Magnetic field's affect to automatic watches.

household items like iPod Docking Station and TV - how close to the watch will affect the watch?

how about those Sports Magnetic Bracelets (the one sort of reliefs the pain)? will having it on the other wrist affect the watch?

how about Mobile Phone with speaker phone function? will that affect the watches also?

thanks

here are some of the top of my head and some experience with my victorinox ambassador.

1. dont put it on top of cpu case of desk top
2. dont put it on top of component stereo

in short dont put it near any electro magnetic field.

i dont think the power balance can affect your watch because it emits natural frequency the same with the human body. its too weak. same goes for the cell phone speaker as long as you dont put them on top of each other.

[dsio]

Originally Posted by htc8p

here are some of the top of my head and some experience with my victorinox ambassador.

1. dont put it on top of cpu case of desk top
2. dont put it on top of component stereo

in short dont put it near any electro magnetic field.

i dont think the power balance can affect your watch because it emits natural frequency the same with the human body. its too weak. same goes for the cell phone speaker as long as you dont put them on top of each other.

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As for the power balance being in harmony with the body's natural frequency, I'll check that the next time my spirit guide is in line with Jupiter's third Chakra ;)

[Trev]

Originally Posted by htc8p

here are some of the top of my head and some experience with my victorinox ambassador.

1. dont put it on top of cpu case of desk top
2. dont put it on top of component stereo

in short dont put it near any electro magnetic field.

i dont think the power balance can affect your watch because it emits natural frequency the same with the human body. its too weak. same goes for the cell phone speaker as long as you dont put them on top of each other.

Yay for pseudo-science.

Sometimes it's better to just not contribute if you're going to make things up and present them as facts.

[htc8p]

i have shared my experience.

up to you if you choose to believe it or not.

[esm]

thanks guys for your contributions.
it makes sense - i guess i'm just trying to be "safe rather than sorry", if you know what i mean.

[Intruder99]

Gauss (measurement of a magnetic field).
A normal automatic watch has anti magnetic protection up to 60 gauss, a millgauss has protection up to 1,000 gauss.

Government suggested average safe living area (below) .0005 gauss
Government suggested unsafe living area (above) .003 gauss


average household appliances.
Florescent light (1 inch away) .02 Gauss
Electric razors and hair dryers .2 gauss to .4 gauss
computer .005 to .1 gauss
electric clock (within 3 feet) .005 to .01 gauss

The point of this post is to say that the household appliances have little effect on the automatic watch, but they do have an effect on you, your family and children's health!

if for example you have an electric clock next to your bed you are receiving between .005 gauss and .01 gauss, this is unhealthy. Below .0005 gauss is recommended.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by esm

apologies in advance - having one of those "unable to search" days..

need expert advice here regarding to Magnetic field's affect to automatic watches.

household items like iPod Docking Station and TV - how close to the watch will affect the watch?

how about those Sports Magnetic Bracelets (the one sort of reliefs the pain)? will having it on the other wrist affect the watch?

how about Mobile Phone with speaker phone function? will that affect the watches also?

thanks

Now Rolex watches are made mainly from S.steel or precious metals and in conjunction with nickel, brass or beryllium, bronze or Glucydur balance wheels so they are very anti-magnetic to begin not sure if the screws used are ferrous metal.Sure the Nivourax hairsprings were very very very slightly magnetic but would have to come in contact with a strong magnetic field to fully magnetise.IMHO magnetised is often used as a cop out for just simple regulation but to de-magnetise any watch is a very simple proses.
Myself worked in the Steel industry for almost 30 years working with and around very powerful electro-magnets plus computers in control centre.And I never ever had any problem with Rolex or any other mechanical watch.Now I work with and repair high powered transceivers which put out a strong magnetic field again never had a problem with any Rolex oyster or any other mechanical watch.

And the Swiss standard test to be called anti-magnetic watches which most Swiss watches are today,which they have to pass including Rolex. Is to withstand a strong magnetic field of 4800 Amps per meter,and to keeps on running with a maximum deviation of 15- 30 seconds per day.Now this test I am 100% sure that 95% of all watch wearers would never subject or come into contact with such a strong magnetic field.

[esm]

Originally Posted by Intruder99

Gauss (measurement of a magnetic field).
A normal automatic watch has anti magnetic protection up to 60 gauss, a millgauss has protection up to 1,000 gauss.

Government suggested average safe living area (below) .0005 gauss
Government suggested unsafe living area (above) .003 gauss


average household appliances.
Florescent light (1 inch away) .02 Gauss
Electric razors and hair dryers .2 gauss to .4 gauss
computer .005 to .1 gauss
electric clock (within 3 feet) .005 to .01 gauss

The point of this post is to say that the household appliances have little effect on the automatic watch, but they do have an effect on you, your family and children's health!

if for example you have an electric clock next to your bed you are receiving between .005 gauss and .01 gauss, this is unhealthy. Below .0005 gauss is recommended.

thanks. thats what i was looking for. very informative.
interesting bit about the electric clock on bed side table.

how about a laptop on charge, but NOT in use on a bed side table. that would certainly be over the "healthy" limit right?

would it be better to switch off at the power point after use then?

how about charging the mobile phone on the bed side table at night?

how were the "safe units" determined? per day? per x-many hours?

[esm]

Originally Posted by padi56

Now Rolex watches are made mainly from S.steel or precious metals and in conjunction with nickel, brass or beryllium, bronze or Glucydur balance wheels so they are very anti-magnetic to begin not sure if the screws used are ferrous metal.Sure the Nivourax hairsprings were very very very slightly magnetic but would have to come in contact with a strong magnetic field to fully magnetise.IMHO magnetised is often used as a cop out for just simple regulation but to de-magnetise any watch is a very simple proses.
Myself worked in the Steel industry for almost 30 years working with and around very powerful electro-magnets plus computers in control centre.And I never ever had any problem with Rolex or any other mechanical watch.Now I work with and repair high powered transceivers which put out a strong magnetic field again never had a problem with any Rolex oyster or any other mechanical watch.

And the Swiss standard test to be called anti-magnetic watches which most Swiss watches are today,which they have to pass including Rolex. Is to withstand a strong magnetic field of 4800 Amps per meter,and to keeps on running with a maximum deviation of 15- 30 seconds per day.Now this test I am 100% sure that 95% of all watch wearers would never subject or come into contact with such a strong magnetic field.

Thank you Peter - another quality response.

[moishlashen]

I don't have specific numbers of everyday Mag fields we encounter but 1 thing you can do is buy a compass and use it to check certain areas you leave your watch. If it deflects the compass strongly you may want to avoid-even though I'm not sure of the field strength to deflect the compass but you would at least be aware of a field stronger locally than the earths natural one.

[Intruder99]

Originally Posted by esm

thanks. thats what i was looking for. very informative.
interesting bit about the electric clock on bed side table.

how about a laptop on charge, but NOT in use on a bed side table. that would certainly be over the "healthy" limit right?

would it be better to switch off at the power point after use then?

how about charging the mobile phone on the bed side table at night?

how were the "safe units" determined? per day? per x-many hours?

The safe levels are the ambient level of .0005 gauss. That is the reading of magnetism measured at a location using a gaussmeter at a given moment. (Like a Geiger counter would measure radiation).

As a rule of thumb, best to keep electrics away from the sleeping area (especially for children).
All electrical appliances give off varying degrees of electro magnetic field when on (even when tv is in off mode). Best to switch off at power point.

[bighaole]

Originally Posted by dsio

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As for the power balance being in harmony with the body's natural frequency, I'll check that the next time my spirit guide is in line with Jupiter's third Chakra ;)

OMG! The magnetism has faded the bezel of your Sub to the point where I can barely see it. Get it away from there fast!!

[Intruder99]

Anyone fed up with the 'is it safe or my child wants a rolex' can read and comment on this thread.

[esm]

Originally Posted by Intruder99

Anyone fed up with the 'is it safe or my child wants a rolex' can read and comment on this thread.

its like a breathe of fresh air, isnt?