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stapler101 · 18 July 2011, 01:47 AM

I have decided that the two tone, black face, GMT Master II is the Rolex for me.
I have found, at Bernardwatch.com, a 1994 model 16713 for $4890.
It is considerably less expensive than the newer models I see for sale.
What are your opinions on the older model and this model in particular at this price?

thanks

horseco · 18 July 2011, 01:51 AM

You get what you pay for, the bracelet on the 16713 is much lighter. That said, it is still a great watch, & a good value.

ayres · 18 July 2011, 01:51 AM

it would help if we saw the watch and its asking price...

tomchicago · 18 July 2011, 02:19 AM

i would direct you to the trusted sellers on this forum for a pre-maxi case/dial GMT.

Tools · 18 July 2011, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stapler101

I have decided that the two tone, black face, GMT Master II is the Rolex for me.
I have found, at Bernardwatch.com, a 1994 model 16713 for $4890.
It is considerably less expensive than the newer models I see for sale.
What are your opinions on the older model and this model in particular at this price?

thanks

This is one of my favorite watches.. With any used model, condition is paramount.. This is especially true of the gold and Two Tone models as the bracelet replacement cost is more than the watch is generally worth.. this makes it imperative that the bracelet be checked over for cracks in the center links or any other obvious damage..

The price is typical for a big Dealer.. The dial should also be checked and hands for deterioration of the tritium, but this is secondary to the bracelet as dials and hands are only a few hundred to replaced, bracelets are several thousand...

One of mine..

G.J · 18 July 2011, 04:21 AM

Pfff...just breath taking Larry..

stapler101 · 18 July 2011, 05:11 AM

Larry, thanks for the great info and advice.
Your watch is gorgeous!

superdelsol · 18 July 2011, 08:05 AM

I have a SS GMT-Master II Ref. 16710. When shopping for this watch I found that if I bought one manufactured in 2000 or newer, it would include the solid end links and the Super-Luminova luminous hands and markers. I didn't pay much more than if had bought a mid 90's model, but these two upgrades were worth it in my opinion. The two tone GMT-Master II black dial is a stunning watch, as is the two-tone black dial Submariner. Lovely watch Larry, thanks for the inspection tips.

slcbbrown · 18 July 2011, 10:10 AM

Great watch. Jubilee? My first Rolex was a tt GMT (not II) on a jubilee. Might be the prettiest tt that Rolex makes. It will last a lifetime.

I would expect to pay $4,500 for tt Sub or GMT, these days. However, 1994 is fairly new. My 1991 no-date Sub has almost completely defunct lume, and your GMT could, too.

18 July 2011, 01:47 AM	#1
stapler101 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Michael Location: Paris, Texas Posts: 44	Opinions of 1994 GMT Master II I have decided that the two tone, black face, GMT Master II is the Rolex for me. I have found, at Bernardwatch.com, a 1994 model 16713 for $4890. It is considerably less expensive than the newer models I see for sale. What are your opinions on the older model and this model in particular at this price? thanks Last edited by stapler101; 18 July 2011 at 02:01 AM.. Reason: left off price

18 July 2011, 04:21 AM	#6
G.J "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 2,094	Pfff...just breath taking Larry.. __________________ In Memory of JJ Irani

18 July 2011, 08:05 AM	#8
superdelsol "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Scott Location: Arizona, USA Watch: your 6. Posts: 388	I have a SS GMT-Master II Ref. 16710. When shopping for this watch I found that if I bought one manufactured in 2000 or newer, it would include the solid end links and the Super-Luminova luminous hands and markers. I didn't pay much more than if had bought a mid 90's model, but these two upgrades were worth it in my opinion. The two tone GMT-Master II black dial is a stunning watch, as is the two-tone black dial Submariner. Lovely watch Larry, thanks for the inspection tips. __________________ "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." Dr. Richard P. Feynman, Rogers Commission Report, Appendix F, 9 June 1986

18 July 2011, 10:10 AM	#9
slcbbrown "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: steve Location: dallas area Watch: 50's TT t-bird Posts: 3,689	Great watch. Jubilee? My first Rolex was a tt GMT (not II) on a jubilee. Might be the prettiest tt that Rolex makes. It will last a lifetime. I would expect to pay $4,500 for tt Sub or GMT, these days. However, 1994 is fairly new. My 1991 no-date Sub has almost completely defunct lume, and your GMT could, too. Last edited by slcbbrown; 18 July 2011 at 10:14 AM.. Reason: spellig

18 July 2011, 01:51 AM	#2
horseco "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Anthony Location: North Jersey Watch: Daytona 116528 Posts: 3,426	You get what you pay for, the bracelet on the 16713 is much lighter. That said, it is still a great watch, & a good value.

18 July 2011, 01:51 AM	#3
ayres "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: honolulu Watch: whatever runs Posts: 551	it would help if we saw the watch and its asking price...

18 July 2011, 02:19 AM	#4
tomchicago Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Watch: 16710BLRO, 214270. Posts: 2,717	i would direct you to the trusted sellers on this forum for a pre-maxi case/dial GMT.

18 July 2011, 05:11 AM	#7
stapler101 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Michael Location: Paris, Texas Posts: 44	Larry, thanks for the great info and advice. Your watch is gorgeous!

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