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W44NNE · 23 July 2011, 11:28 PM

I've just joined the forum so hope you don't mind me posting this thread. I received an Explorer II this morning and I really like it.

I've had the back removed by a Rolex AD jeweller and he's happy with everything in there.

However, there's just a couple of things bugging me as I've never owned an Exploer of any kind before...

- The cyclopse magnifies the date but not as much as it does on my SubC so does it look "right" in the pictures?
- The dial says "SWISS" at the bottom with no tritium markings etc

Here are the pictures...

I'd love your views on my queries as well as anything else that stands out.

Many thanks :-)

renfield33 · 24 July 2011, 02:11 AM

What is the beginning of the serial number (don't post the whole thing)

W44NNE · 24 July 2011, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by renfield33

What is the beginning of the serial number (don't post the whole thing)

No chance of me doing that

The numbers on the paperwork (correspond with the case engraving) are as follows:

Style No. R16570A50B9315
Serial No. N41****

mjm800 · 24 July 2011, 02:32 AM

N is 91 my N GMT has a T<25 dial so it might be a new dial but it looks good and the mag is good.

I'm not sure on the Exp II if the N had a different dial or not my R Exp II has a T<25 dial also so does my S Submariner.

Here's a quick shot of my N GMT:

Watchvirgin · 24 July 2011, 02:34 AM

Just looked at mine. It has "Swiss Made" at the bottom and it is K serial. Not sure and I bet someone will know! Love my EXP II

mjm800 · 24 July 2011, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by W44NNE

However, there's just a couple of things bugging me as I've never owned an Exploer of any kind before...

:-)

You know I wouldn't worry too much.

On my R serial just about everything written on it says it comes with the indicators trimmed in white gold with white gold hands but mine comes with black trim and black hands. I was freaking out turns out this version was made toward the end of the run of the R's. They came out of Rolex here and there but the majority of the Rs are white trim.

acce1999 · 24 July 2011, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W44NNE

No chance of me doing that

The numbers on the paperwork (correspond with the case engraving) are as follows:

Style No. R16570A50B9315
Serial No. N41****

Your Explorer looks good to me. As have been said it is an early 1990's model and it should have a fliplock bracelet as indicated by the reference number. The dial is a fairly unusual replacement dial from circa 2000, the first generation of Luminova dials. It looks like you have Luminova hands too.

The magnification looks like mine, a more recent white Ex II.

It is one of my favourite watches of all times, as indicated in my avatar.

Congrats!!!

Best,

A

W44NNE · 24 July 2011, 02:59 AM

Thanks for the replies... they've put my mind at ease :-)

Does anyone think, come to resale-time (unlikely for a while!), the value of the watch may be affected by the dial and hands?

mjm800 · 24 July 2011, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W44NNE

Thanks for the replies... they've put my mind at ease :-)

Does anyone think, come to resale-time (unlikely for a while!), the value of the watch may be affected by the dial and hands?

Only to a hardcore collector would care most casual buyers want the lume to work so they would be happy to buy an older watch with working lume.

All my T<25 dials have long dead lume.

People who want everything original would shy away just be upfront and explain that it's a replacement dial and you'll be OK but it won't significantly effect the price or anything.

W44NNE · 24 July 2011, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjm800

Only to a hardcore collector would care most casual buyers want the lume to work so they would be happy to buy an older watch with working lume.

All my T<25 dials have long dead lume.

People who want everything original would shy away just be upfront and explain that it's a replacement dial and you'll be OK but it won't significantly effect the price or anything.

Just what I wanted to hear (well, read

).

Thanks very much for all the replies. Happy to read any other opinions and I'm now loving this watch even more

Tools · 24 July 2011, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W44NNE

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The numbers on the paperwork (correspond with the case engraving) are as follows:

Style No. R16570A50B9315
Serial No. N41****

Great looking watch and excellent choice... These numbers tell me this about your watch..

R16570 - It's a Rolex Explorer II

..A50 - It came originally with a white dial

...B9315 - The original bracelet was a diver extension/flip-lock (like the Sub has)

N41xxxx - It hit the market in the 92/93 time frame..

So, knowing all this; we know that it would have originally had a tritium dial, we also know that the "swiss" luminova dial is a proper service replacement and can, therefore, infer that it has been serviced at some point by Rolex...

W44NNE · 25 July 2011, 12:23 AM

Thanks for all the info. It's been really helpful as at first I wasn't sure how "legit" the watch was.

Mr. K · 25 July 2011, 12:43 AM

It's a good looking piece. Enjoy!

dddrees · 25 July 2011, 12:47 AM

Looks good, Congrats.

brkanand · 25 July 2011, 12:48 AM

Beautiful. Enjoy with pride!

Puffy · 25 July 2011, 12:52 AM

What is the price for this?

HL65 · 25 July 2011, 12:56 AM

Very nice watch- enjoy it! It does have a service dial as Larry pointed out...Congrats!

Rags · 25 July 2011, 01:13 AM

Congrats..Enjoy you watch....

mjclark32 · 25 July 2011, 01:24 AM

Great, congrats.

vukotab · 25 July 2011, 01:45 AM

Great looking watch, good choice!

Wear it in a good health and welcome to TRF!

sea-dweller · 25 July 2011, 03:21 AM

Congrats!

chicagofan · 25 July 2011, 03:48 AM

Congrats and welcome to TRF.

23 July 2011, 11:28 PM	#1
W44NNE "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NorthWest England Posts: 7	Just wanted to run a new-to-me Explorer II by you guys... I've just joined the forum so hope you don't mind me posting this thread. I received an Explorer II this morning and I really like it. I've had the back removed by a Rolex AD jeweller and he's happy with everything in there. However, there's just a couple of things bugging me as I've never owned an Exploer of any kind before... - The cyclopse magnifies the date but not as much as it does on my SubC so does it look "right" in the pictures? - The dial says "SWISS" at the bottom with no tritium markings etc Here are the pictures... I'd love your views on my queries as well as anything else that stands out. Many thanks :-)

24 July 2011, 02:11 AM	#2
renfield33 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Watch: GMT-II Pepsi Posts: 1,051	What is the beginning of the serial number (don't post the whole thing) __________________ Lug hole loyalist!

24 July 2011, 02:32 AM	#4
mjm800 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,950	N is 91 my N GMT has a T<25 dial so it might be a new dial but it looks good and the mag is good. I'm not sure on the Exp II if the N had a different dial or not my R Exp II has a T<25 dial also so does my S Submariner. Here's a quick shot of my N GMT: __________________

25 July 2011, 12:47 AM	#14
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	Looks good, Congrats. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

25 July 2011, 12:52 AM	#16
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	What is the price for this? __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

24 July 2011, 02:34 AM	#5
Watchvirgin Banned Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Ash_Flash Location: Washington, DC Watch: AP Posts: 901	Just looked at mine. It has "Swiss Made" at the bottom and it is K serial. Not sure and I bet someone will know! Love my EXP II

24 July 2011, 02:59 AM	#8
W44NNE "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NorthWest England Posts: 7	Thanks for the replies... they've put my mind at ease :-) Does anyone think, come to resale-time (unlikely for a while!), the value of the watch may be affected by the dial and hands?

25 July 2011, 12:23 AM	#12
W44NNE "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NorthWest England Posts: 7	Thanks for all the info. It's been really helpful as at first I wasn't sure how "legit" the watch was.

25 July 2011, 12:43 AM	#13
Mr. K "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Mark Location: Seattle-ish Posts: 6,078	It's a good looking piece. Enjoy!

25 July 2011, 12:48 AM	#15
brkanand 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: DrK Location: India Watch: 4=YMDaytonaGMTHulk Posts: 7,052	Beautiful. Enjoy with pride!

25 July 2011, 12:56 AM	#17
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,006	Very nice watch- enjoy it! It does have a service dial as Larry pointed out...Congrats! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

25 July 2011, 01:13 AM	#18
Rags 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Chuck Location: SW Florida Watch: 16233,16610,214270 Posts: 11,196	Congrats..Enjoy you watch.... __________________ 16233 Y Serial Datejust 16610 Z Serial Submariner 214270 Explorer *114300 Oyster Perpetual* *76200 Tudor Date+Day*

25 July 2011, 01:24 AM	#19
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	Great, congrats. __________________

25 July 2011, 01:45 AM	#20
vukotab "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Vukota Brajovi Location: Belgrade,Serbia Watch: ing movies! Posts: 3,812	Great looking watch, good choice! Wear it in a good health and welcome to TRF! __________________ My fashion blog and Instagram: https://stylebyvukota.com/ https://instagram.com/vukotabrajovic/

25 July 2011, 03:21 AM	#21
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	Congrats!

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