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michaelt · 14 June 2011, 01:42 AM

Does anyone know if the DSSD is more resistant to shock than the regular submariner. It seems as though it should be more durable? I know the Ball watches tout this as a feature.

padi56 · 14 June 2011, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by michaelt

Does anyone know if the DSSD is more resistant to shock than the regular submariner. It seems as though it should be more durable? I know the Ball watches tout this as a feature.

No whether they use the in-house or the KIF shock system the only thing the DSSD its more resistant to is water pressure.Although Rolex quotes there Paraflex to be more shock resistant,but they don't quote shock resistance what.The kif system has been used in millions upon millions of Rolex watches over the decades without any real known problems.

michaelt · 14 June 2011, 03:01 AM

Thanks

Tools · 14 June 2011, 03:24 AM

The movements are identical.

If you drop a watch from 5 feet, the shock generated and transferred to the movement is about the same for a Sub or a DSSD.. One just has a bigger case; not a more "shock resistant" movement..

Now, you could probably do some calculations and come to the conclusion that the DSSD is heavier, therefore it will accelerate faster, have more mass, and perhaps generate a higher load at impact... This would mean that the Sub could survive a drop better up to a certain height than the DSSD..

But that's all theory..

padi56 · 14 June 2011, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

The movements are identical.

If you drop a watch from 5 feet, the shock generated and transferred to the movement is about the same for a Sub or a DSSD.. One just has a bigger case; not a more "shock resistant" movement..

Now, you could probably do some calculations and come to the conclusion that the DSSD is heavier, therefore it will accelerate faster, have more mass, and perhaps generate a higher load at impact... This would mean that the Sub could survive a drop better up to a certain height than the DSSD..

But that's all theory..

Well they do say Larry the bigger you are the harder you will fall.

Megalobyte · 14 June 2011, 03:46 AM

Yes but, the DeepSea would hit the ground and end up embedded 3" down in it, as the ground gives way and crumbles under the mass of that falling hunk o' steel, the impact to the watch lessens. :)

dsio · 14 June 2011, 03:52 AM

44mm over 40mm means slightly increased drag while falling, anyone got a formula?

mike · 14 June 2011, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by padi56

No whether they use the in-house or the KIF shock system the only thing the DSSD its more resistant to is water pressure.Although Rolex quotes there Paraflex to be more shock resistant,but they don't quote shock resistance what.The kif system has been used in millions upon millions of Rolex watches over the decades without any real known problems.

Spot on.

FireFight · 14 June 2011, 06:22 AM

The acceleration of an object due to gravity is independent of its mass and weight, an object, any object, if dropped will accelerate at 9.8m/s squared if you ignore air resistance.

Ady

Paracentesis · 14 June 2011, 09:10 AM

Yep. Galileo dropped Rolexes off the Tower at Pisa to demonstrate that. ;-)

paddy_crow · 14 June 2011, 09:13 AM

Just don't drop a DSSD on your foot!

DimeRazorback · 14 June 2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Paracentesis

Yep. Galileo dropped Rolexes off the Tower at Pisa to demonstrate that. ;-)

Damn! I must have missed the giveaway!!

SUBversive · 14 June 2011, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by michaelt

Does anyone know if the DSSD is more resistant to shock than the regular submariner. It seems as though it should be more durable? I know the Ball watches tout this as a feature.

it sure is shocking as to how big it is...

rolexpawn · 14 June 2011, 02:51 PM

OUCH, That would leave a mark.

Andrie · 14 June 2011, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FireFight

The acceleration of an object due to gravity is independent of its mass and weight, an object, any object, if dropped will accelerate at 9.8m/s squared if you ignore air resistance.

Ady

The acceleration is fixed, you're correct. But the force is not. Accoroding to Newton, F=m.a
So the bigger the mass, the bigger the force.

dannyt · 14 June 2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FireFight

The acceleration of an object due to gravity is independent of its mass and weight, an object, any object, if dropped will accelerate at 9.8m/s squared if you ignore air resistance.

Ady

Ok, let's drop both watches in my vacuum and we will see the end result

z32turbo · 15 June 2011, 01:29 PM

Always learnIng something new!!!!!!

SUBversive · 16 June 2011, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by paddy_crow

Just don't drop a DSSD on your foot!

Break your foot and crash through the floor...

SALTY · 29 July 2011, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FireFight

The acceleration of an object due to gravity is independent of its mass and weight, an object, any object, if dropped will accelerate at 9.8m/s squared if you ignore air resistance.

Ady

Yes, but, as a pilot, I am still factoring the drag of the added mass into the equation. Does anyone have handy a ballistic coeficient table of various Rolex models I can refer to?

lortap · 30 July 2011, 04:22 AM

So what we need is to find someone with both watches, a high tower and a good stopwatch. After we find the maximum terminal velocity of both watches, the rest of the math is easy

le_baroudeur · 30 July 2011, 06:42 AM

As a corium, a dssd fall through the ground. Have anyone studied interaction between a corium and a dssd?

AJMarcus · 30 July 2011, 07:27 AM

I think somebody should volunteer to test it and find out for sure!

dddrees · 30 July 2011, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by lortap

So what we need is to find someone with both watches, a high tower and a good stopwatch. After we find the maximum terminal velocity of both watches, the rest of the math is easy

Even if I had both, I know I wouldn't volunteer for that test.

HongNinja · 30 July 2011, 09:36 AM

My head hurts....

Andad · 30 July 2011, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dannyt

Ok, let's drop both watches in my vacuum and we will see the end result

No difference.

I can tell you that they won't float around.

Watch Fan · 31 July 2011, 09:26 AM

Well this has certainly been enlightening. I don't think either watch would do "well" if dropped on a hard floor from almost any height. Just a guess, I don't have any "hard" data.

Gagebuilder · 31 July 2011, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrie

The acceleration is fixed, you're correct. But the force is not. Accoroding to Newton, F=m.a
So the bigger the mass, the bigger the force.

We are geeks!

DeepSea has more potential energy. PE = m*g*h

14 June 2011, 01:42 AM	#1
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14 June 2011, 03:24 AM	#4
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	The movements are identical. If you drop a watch from 5 feet, the shock generated and transferred to the movement is about the same for a Sub or a DSSD.. One just has a bigger case; not a more "shock resistant" movement.. Now, you could probably do some calculations and come to the conclusion that the DSSD is heavier, therefore it will accelerate faster, have more mass, and perhaps generate a higher load at impact... This would mean that the Sub could survive a drop better up to a certain height than the DSSD.. But that's all theory.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

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Megalobyte "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Ari Location: Florida Watch: ...me go broke Posts: 2,428	Yes but, the DeepSea would hit the ground and end up embedded 3" down in it, as the ground gives way and crumbles under the mass of that falling hunk o' steel, the impact to the watch lessens. :)

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FireFight "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Ady Location: NW UK Watch: Rolex GMT11c Posts: 58	The acceleration of an object due to gravity is independent of its mass and weight, an object, any object, if dropped will accelerate at 9.8m/s squared if you ignore air resistance. Ady

14 June 2011, 09:10 AM	#10
Paracentesis Banned Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: James Location: UK Watch: Tissot Posts: 1,454	Yep. Galileo dropped Rolexes off the Tower at Pisa to demonstrate that. ;-)

14 June 2011, 09:13 AM	#11
paddy_crow Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 592	Just don't drop a DSSD on your foot!

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rolexpawn Banned Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Chester Location: Bolton UK Watch: my Rolex(s) Posts: 479	OUCH, That would leave a mark.

30 July 2011, 04:22 AM	#20
lortap "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Mike Location: Oregon Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 147	So what we need is to find someone with both watches, a high tower and a good stopwatch. After we find the maximum terminal velocity of both watches, the rest of the math is easy

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AJMarcus "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: AJ Location: USA Watch: Swiss Posts: 5,238	I think somebody should volunteer to test it and find out for sure!

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31 July 2011, 09:26 AM	#26
Watch Fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 676	Well this has certainly been enlightening. I don't think either watch would do "well" if dropped on a hard floor from almost any height. Just a guess, I don't have any "hard" data. __________________ "The early bird might get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheeze."

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