Yachtmaster - Submariner - GMT differences are?

[DD GT3 RD]

Can someone explain the differences between the Yachtmaster, GMT, Submariner?

I see minor difference sometimes, im not even sure. How about the internals?

[Speed]

The watches are vastly different - even to the naked eye. Are you sure you are looking at these three models?

GMT - 24 Hr hand / 24 HR Bezel. You use the watch to tell time in multiple zones.

Sub - A dive watch. Divers Bezel, vastly higher depth rating viewable on the dial (thicker caseback) Faithful & famous 3135 movement.

YachtMaster - Silver speckled dial. Platinum Bezel. PCLs. Same movement as the Sub.

[z32turbo]

Price is also different.

[Speed]

Originally Posted by z32turbo

Price is also different.

[matt4hand]

I own 2 of the 3. They are all amazing time pieces. I wear the Sub more than anything since it's a little more low key.

[Speed]

Wow.

Gorgeous Sub Matt.

Love that dial!!!

[matt4hand]

Originally Posted by Speed

Wow.

Gorgeous Sub Matt.

Love that dial!!!

Thanks! She's a keeper

[MortgageGuy]

Completely different watches. The YM is so refined and a true beauty where the Sub and GMT are more made to work IMHO... Also of course all the diff mentioned above

[watchf]

I'm not an expert so take my post with a grain of salt. YM (platinum) and Sub date (non ceramic) have the same movement, GMT have a different movement obviously due to its GMT function. Appearance wise there is a BIG difference between the YM and SS Sub/GMT but a little less obvious between the SS Sub and GMT to a person unfamiliar with Rolex.

From what I have read the YM design was supposed to be a replacement for the Sub but Rolex found it to be too drastic in design change and went back to the old sub design and subsequently offered it as the YM as a separate model years later.

[DD GT3 RD]

thanks so far. With the YM I see the difference only in the bezel really, it is a nicer/prettier watch. But the general styling is the same.

So it was mostly with the GMT and the Submariner that are almost the same I thought.

[watchf]

All are classified as sport watches but YM is more 'dressy and classy' with its platinum + colour scheme + polished center link bracelet while Sub/GMT are more towards 'rugged/tool'. YM and GMT are also thinner than the sub due to lower water depth.

[Speed]

Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD

thanks so far. With the YM I see the difference only in the bezel really, it is a nicer/prettier watch. But the general styling is the same.

So it was mostly with the GMT and the Submariner that are almost the same I thought.

3185 or 3186 movement with the GMT IIs. The Sub again, has a much thicker case back to protect the 3135 movement whilst under water.

The bezel of the older GMTs - Pepsi and Coke are certainly visibly different from the color standpoint.

Below is a D series and a Y series GMT II and Sub. The older Sub also has lug holes whereas the D series GMTII does not.

[Runnin' Rebel]

Yacht-Master
GMT IIc
GMT II coke
Sub LV.. and Serti Blue
These are my favorites, in no particular order..

What's inside, couldn't tell you. All I know is they are accurate, very accurate.

[mrloneranger]

[padi56]

The only difference in the complete oyster range today except the chronographs.Are the type of metal, S.steel,TT or precious metal/diamonds the style of case,price and functions.As all the movements are based on the base cal 3135 with or without added complications like date,day-date GMT second timezone function,and no date..One base engine for most of the range just like the car industry today.Several models share the same engine and floor-pan just got different bodies and prices

[mikkolopez]

Sub I now own. GMT soon. YM, no more funds for this.

[slcbbrown]

Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD

Can someone explain the differences between the Yachtmaster, GMT, Submariner?

I see minor difference sometimes, im not even sure. How about the internals?

IMO, the Sub and GMT are original Rolex classics. The diver's watch and the pilot's watch. Both have the same basic movement and the GMT has the added 24 hour hand. They have both been around for a long time and are recognized as absolute classics.

The YM's are not so classic. I believe Rolex was trying to create a higher priced watch to fill a niche between the other sport models and the Daytona. They took a basic sport Rolex and added a big precious metal bezel and jumped the price up a notch.

[Speed]

Agree...the YM is a bit of a silly watch. Looks nice tho!

[Dickson Lim]

Originally Posted by slcbbrown

IMO, the Sub and GMT are original Rolex classics. The diver's watch and the pilot's watch. Both have the same basic movement and the GMT has the added 24 hour hand. They have both been around for a long time and are recognized as absolute classics.

The YM's are not so classic. I believe Rolex was trying to create a higher priced watch to fill a niche between the other sport models and the Daytona. They took a basic sport Rolex and added a big precious metal bezel and jumped the price up a notch.

IMHO Yachtmaster is still a classic sub, but with more elegant looks (they are 99% the same just the colour makes the difference and with more polished surface). Hence, it earns a name called the Captain Sub!

[Dickson Lim]

Oh ya, just one more point to back it up, if YM is not a classic, then a SUB-c LV should not be a classic then (same sub but all in GREEN)! Just joking!

[Danand]

Originally Posted by watchf

All are classified as sport watches but YM is more 'dressy and classy' with its platinum + colour scheme + polished center link bracelet while Sub/GMT are more towards 'rugged/tool'. YM and GMT are also thinner than the sub due to lower water depth.

Not much real difference in height between gmtc and subc though due to the fact the gmt has a higher case height (thickness) due to the second time complication, whereas the sub case is lower but with a thicker case back for the increased depth rating. Subtle differences in that regard.