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[Flyjet601]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Rolex

Thanks Larry! That makes sense. It did feel (sound?) like the pilot shut down the engine before landing. He didn't say it but you could sense that it was shut down.

By shutting down the engine that would have taken the airspeed down and the risk of overshooting the runway averted. Just one more question. If the engine was shut down, why the need for emergency vehicles? Wouldn't the landing have been at "normal air speed?"

BTW, it was a smooth landing. I've been on much rougher landings when all systems were green! The steward in my section did a great job of calming down a passenger who was crying. Lots of others were praying. Steward said there are many different degrees of "emergency landings" and the pilot did not tell the crew to prepare the passengers any differently than a normal landing so he was not concerned about it.

I'm always amazed when looking at those planes from the terminal and thinking, "This is not right. How does something this big and heavy FLY!!!" Thrust and lift be DAMNED!

Not knowing exactly which aircraft we are talking about it is hard to give an exact answer, but I will use the aircraft that I fly as an example.
First aircraft must be certified to fly with reduced engine power(i.e. loss of atleast one engine). 747, A340 etc (4 engine aircraft have different requirements). So really loosing an engine in no big deal. I can't even recall the last time an aircraft crashed due to an engine failure. Usually when aircraft crash, the engines are not the problem.
My aircraft has 2 engines. If we loose an engine, no big deal really, it still flies very well. But our procedures are that we approach at a reduced flap angle(flaps 20 degrees vs 45 degrees). With reduced flaps we have a higher approach(add 10 kts to our speed) and touchdown speed and we correct our landing distance accordingly to compensate. So yes we do have higher speed but in accordance with manufacturer approved procedures. So no big deal really.
The vehicles are a precaution. You dont know why the engine had a problem. There could be fluids, hydraulics, fuel leaking out of the engine, they would see it and you want those guys close by just in case. It doesnt cost anything and gives those guys something to do
Crew did a good job of keeping people calm
Hope your next flight is routine

[Alcan]

Originally Posted by cx007

Hey Al...

Great stuff... I go to the Father's Day Air Show every year in Hamilton... That Lancaster is a real war hero... Love the sound of those 4 engines flying overheard. I used to live under the landing path of Rwy 24... very near LimeRidge Mall...

Cheers!

Sounds like we were neighbors, Kevin. I'm at Mohawk and Upper Sherman.

[Alcan]

Originally Posted by Flyjet601

Hi Al.....bunch of crazy canucks


Great photo Al

Yep, that we are!

Easy to tell when the Lancaster's up. Those engines are pretty distinctive. Canadian Warplane Heritage offers a Lanc Bomber Crew annual membership for $2,000, which provides the opportunity to crew on the Lanc. How cool would that be!!!

Here's the flight schedule for the balance of '07 and other good stuff links. My brother in law has been up in the Harvard and Stearman:

http://www.warplane.com/pages/ptalk.html

[Flyjet601]

Originally Posted by Alcan

Yep, that we are!

Easy to tell when the Lancaster's up. Those engines are pretty distinctive. Canadian Warplane Heritage offers a Lanc Bomber Crew annual membership for $2,000, which provides the opportunity to crew on the Lanc. How cool would that be!!!

Here's the flight schedule for the balance of '07 and other good stuff links. My brother in law has been up in the Harvard and Stearman:

http://www.warplane.com/pages/ptalk.html

Yes it sure is easy to tell a Lancaster. Those aircraft of the bygone era are amazing. And the guys who flew them in the war.
Thanks

[Ronnie Rolex]

Originally Posted by Flyjet601

Not knowing exactly which aircraft we are talking about it is hard to give an exact answer, but I will use the aircraft that I fly as an example.
First aircraft must be certified to fly with reduced engine power(i.e. loss of atleast one engine). 747, A340 etc (4 engine aircraft have different requirements). So really loosing an engine in no big deal. I can't even recall the last time an aircraft crashed due to an engine failure. Usually when aircraft crash, the engines are not the problem.
My aircraft has 2 engines. If we loose an engine, no big deal really, it still flies very well. But our procedures are that we approach at a reduced flap angle(flaps 20 degrees vs 45 degrees). With reduced flaps we have a higher approach(add 10 kts to our speed) and touchdown speed and we correct our landing distance accordingly to compensate. So yes we do have higher speed but in accordance with manufacturer approved procedures. So no big deal really.
The vehicles are a precaution. You dont know why the engine had a problem. There could be fluids, hydraulics, fuel leaking out of the engine, they would see it and you want those guys close by just in case. It doesnt cost anything and gives those guys something to do
Crew did a good job of keeping people calm
Hope your next flight is routine

Thanks again Larry!

As for having a routine flight, my prior flight before the aforementioned engine problem had a landing gear warning light problem. We were approaching LAX for touchdown and kept going over the Pacific Ocean. Living next to LAX, I knew something was wrong. The pilot stated the landing gear light was indicating the gear was not locked in the down position. We did a fly by the tower to check the gears position and landed safely. This was fairly unnerving since a plane landed at LAX a few months prior without a front nose gear.

My sister said she is never going to fly in the same plane as me!