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matt4hand · 9 November 2011, 06:46 AM

Andrew and I agreed to a deal today for his GMT that he listed for sale.

I sent him a PM within a minutes of it being listed stating I would take it.

He replied back that the watch was mine as long as I covered shipping which I agreed to. 1 hour later he sends me a PM saying that he is taking the watch back.
I asked for a simple explanation from him several times and he ignored me.

I understand that a seller has the right to not sell their item but I am a man of my word and if I make a deal I stick to it. Very shady in my opinion to make a deal then pull out and ignore someone.

Oh well maybe next time

matt4hand · 9 November 2011, 06:46 AM

Update: I see that he is now banned. I think it may have been a scam.

drtooth73 · 9 November 2011, 07:06 AM

Yep, looks like he is banned.
I sent him pm right after he listed as well.

drtooth73 · 9 November 2011, 07:07 AM

There is now a new member arduw.

George Ab · 16 November 2011, 09:31 AM

I purchased a GMT from Ardew (Andrew Dante). Andrew did everything he said he would do and was great to work with. I found Andrew to be a super polite gentlemen; typical of a mid-Westerner.

Why Ardew got banned is between him and the moderators.

I do not know why Andrew did not sell the watch to Matt. The seller did make the following comment in an email “Honestly, I felt safer selling to you with all your references.”

As stated, a seller has the right to not sell their item. It is not in the best of form or show the best discrimination to post a negative review of the seller: “Be careful of ardew”, based on his decision to not sell the watch to you. I understand your frustration as it has happened to me a number of times. However, as sellers, we understand how valuable our reputation is and should bear that in mind when positing about others.

johnbeth · 16 November 2011, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Ab

I purchased a GMT from Ardew (Andrew Dante). Andrew did everything he said he would do and was great to work with. I found Andrew to be a super polite gentlemen; typical of a mid-Westerner.

Why Ardew got banned is between him and the moderators.

I do not know why Andrew did not sell the watch to Matt. The seller did make the following comment in an email “Honestly, I felt safer selling to you with all your references.”

As stated, a seller has the right to not sell their item. It is not in the best of form or show the best discrimination to post a negative review of the seller: “Be careful of ardew”, based on his decision to not sell the watch to you. I understand your frustration as it has happened to me a number of times. However, as sellers, we understand how valuable our reputation is and should bear that in mind when positing about others.

I agree

toph · 16 November 2011, 10:31 AM

While I agree in theory with George AB the fact remains that politeness costs nothing and after agreeing a deal with Matt a decent seller would have the decency AT LEAST to be honest and give a reason to why he backed out, if asked.

yannis · 16 November 2011, 11:00 AM

Buyers back all the time...i guess sellers are also entitled to....i understand Matt's point though.

It leaves a bitter/sour taste when you do all you have to to fulfill your side of obligations when the other party decides to back off with a b/s excuse or no excuse at all and after they have led you on for days and you have lost another buyer or another good deal in the event you are the buyer.

Usually it is sellers that are in Matt's position.

Sunny Arizona · 16 November 2011, 12:34 PM

Doesn't sound like a good reason to publically flog him

sleddog · 16 November 2011, 12:36 PM

Closed until further notice!

9 November 2011, 06:46 AM	#1
matt4hand Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Matt Location: Atlanta Watch: Tramp Posts: 2,369	Be careful of ardew (seller) Andrew and I agreed to a deal today for his GMT that he listed for sale. I sent him a PM within a minutes of it being listed stating I would take it. He replied back that the watch was mine as long as I covered shipping which I agreed to. 1 hour later he sends me a PM saying that he is taking the watch back. I asked for a simple explanation from him several times and he ignored me. I understand that a seller has the right to not sell their item but I am a man of my word and if I make a deal I stick to it. Very shady in my opinion to make a deal then pull out and ignore someone. Oh well maybe next time

16 November 2011, 10:31 AM	#7
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	While I agree in theory with George AB the fact remains that politeness costs nothing and after agreeing a deal with Matt a decent seller would have the decency AT LEAST to be honest and give a reason to why he backed out, if asked. __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

16 November 2011, 11:00 AM	#8
yannis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Yannis Location: Europe Watch: maniac Posts: 9,070	Buyers back all the time...i guess sellers are also entitled to....i understand Matt's point though. It leaves a bitter/sour taste when you do all you have to to fulfill your side of obligations when the other party decides to back off with a b/s excuse or no excuse at all and after they have led you on for days and you have lost another buyer or another good deal in the event you are the buyer. Usually it is sellers that are in Matt's position. __________________ Rolex Submariner 116610LV \| Tudor 79220N DSSD MEMBERS - OWNERS CLUB

16 November 2011, 12:34 PM	#9
Sunny Arizona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Brad Location: Colorado Watch: 16613 Posts: 1,263	Interesting Doesn't sound like a good reason to publically flog him

16 November 2011, 12:36 PM	#10
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,931	Closed until further notice! __________________ He who wears a Rolex is always on time, even when late!! TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..

9 November 2011, 07:06 AM	#3
drtooth73 Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: W. Stutman Location: Motor City Watch: TT GMT IIC Posts: 2,223	Yep, looks like he is banned. I sent him pm right after he listed as well.

9 November 2011, 07:07 AM	#4
drtooth73 Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: W. Stutman Location: Motor City Watch: TT GMT IIC Posts: 2,223	There is now a new member arduw.

16 November 2011, 09:31 AM	#5
George Ab "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: George Location: Seattle Watch: One of Them Posts: 6,924	I purchased a GMT from Ardew (Andrew Dante). Andrew did everything he said he would do and was great to work with. I found Andrew to be a super polite gentlemen; typical of a mid-Westerner. Why Ardew got banned is between him and the moderators. I do not know why Andrew did not sell the watch to Matt. The seller did make the following comment in an email “Honestly, I felt safer selling to you with all your references.” As stated, a seller has the right to not sell their item. It is not in the best of form or show the best discrimination to post a negative review of the seller: “Be careful of ardew”, based on his decision to not sell the watch to you. I understand your frustration as it has happened to me a number of times. However, as sellers, we understand how valuable our reputation is and should bear that in mind when positing about others.

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