Royal Oak Offshore - am I missing something?

[esm]

Originally Posted by TSW

Neither would i call the Offshore as a Tool watch just as a sportier line from Audemars Piguet.
AP is putting a lot of their work in the finishing both in the movement , case and the dials.
I wasn't all in love by AP until i tried one on and now i keep wanting more of them.
These are the different movements AP uses for the Offshore series.

Caliber 2326 is the JLC-based movement found in the Rubber Clad and older Offshores.

The 3126 is the AP-based (3120 base) movement which is found in a number of Offshore models, including all current Safari, Navy, Volcano and the Grand Prix.

The chronograph module is a Dubois-Depraz, found in both the 2326 and the 3126, which sits at the top of the base movement.

Thomas

I think I have read somewhere that because of the design of case/dial to the Dubois-Depraz movement, AP was forced to include an inverse cyclops over the date window, otherwise it'd too low/far away from the crystal.

Not a fan of AP, but if I "had" to get one, I'd probably go with the Diver

[TSW]

Originally Posted by esm

I think I have read somewhere that because of the design of case/dial to the Dubois-Depraz movement, AP was forced to include an inverse cyclops over the date window, otherwise it'd too low/far away from the crystal.

Not a fan of AP, but if I "had" to get one, I'd probably go with the Diver

Not familiar with that Eric, I think it's just the design

Have you got a chance to try the Diver?
It really wears wonderful for being quite a big watch.

[ocwatching]

Thomas sums it up pretty well..the devil (or beauty) is in the details that AP puts into their pieces..

Was not a big ROO Chrono fan but when the Diver came out, I went AP and hasn't looked back.

[subtona]

im missing something as well but if im reading this thread correctly.... the best thing to do, is not to be in the same room with one and especially don't try one on

[B. Doggy]

Originally Posted by subtona

im missing something as well but if im reading this thread correctly.... the best thing to do, is not to be in the same room with one and especially don't try one on

Seriously, Man! All around well executed. The bracelet is like nothing I've ever experienced before. It blings like a diamond in the right light because of the finishing on it. Crazy stuff. All this and I don't have to worry about PCL's like on my Daytona.

[dalip]

Originally Posted by TSW

Not familiar with that Eric, I think it's just the design

Have you got a chance to try the Diver?
It really wears wonderful for being quite a big watch.

X2 on the diver

That'll probably be my next

[esm]

Originally Posted by TSW

Not familiar with that Eric, I think it's just the design

Have you got a chance to try the Diver?
It really wears wonderful for being quite a big watch.

I have seen the Diver a few times, but haven't really "bothered" to try it on. I do like its simple design though. Does it come in bracelet or just the rubber version?

Re: the chrono movement, I will dig around and see if I was "seeing things"...
I'm pretty certain about the crown and chrono pushers are misaligned due to the use of the piggyback movement, instead of a dedicated chrono movement though.

[brkanand]

Thanks to Jeff for starting this thread and to all members for pointing out nice things about AP, I am now showing attention to this brand.

[kareemthedream33]

Rose gold royal oak on brown croc with white dial is one of my grailsz

[esm]

Originally Posted by dalip

X2 on the diver

That'll probably be my next

Would you go for the standard edition Diver or one of those boutique edition Divers, Dalip?

I think I'd either go with the standard edition (with stick dials) or the Scuba boutique edition with Arabic dial

[DD GT3 RD]

Originally Posted by Manofsteelpt

I wonder why they don't show this off with a clear case back

they are starting to. Only on certain ROO models thou. Shows on the RO 15300. Take a look at the 15202 with AP rotor. Gorgeous

[Submarino]

Originally Posted by esm

I think I have read somewhere that because of the design of case/dial to the Dubois-Depraz movement, AP was forced to include an inverse cyclops over the date window, otherwise it'd too low/far away from the crystal.

Not a fan of AP, but if I "had" to get one, I'd probably go with the Diver

The loupe sits on the movement itself and not on the crystal or the dial.

[Submarino]

Originally Posted by wantonebad

The AP ROO is a millionaire's tool watch. It's not my favorite esthetically, however i do recognize that it is an EXTREMELY high-end, mass produced watch, in fact one of the best and I would be honored to own one. Even though if given my druthers I would make a different selection with that money LOL

No mass-production when it comes to Audemars Piguet watches. Only 26,000 watches are made each year with a staff of approximately 1,100 people.

[Submarino]

Originally Posted by eric23

Thomas, what is the difference? Movement or just the dial? Also do you have any ideas on the list prices?

Thanks,

Eric

Different caliber and overall thickness of the watch and bracelet. The 15202 comes with the caliber 2121 (same as in the 1972 model Ref. 5402) and the 15300 with the caliber 3120. The 15202 is thinner and sits lower on the wrist. The bracelet is also slightly different. Here's a picture of my ref. 5402SA (TT model) so you can appreciate the thickness of the case and bracelet.

[DucS2R]

I have admired AP from afar for quite some time. I spend a lot of money on watches (though all is relative) and have a fair share or IWC's, JLC's, Langes, and even a Panerai and Rolex or two. I just bought a white face 15300 and am wearing it now. I love the watch and the feel of the bracelet. I would love to have a 15202 and probably will soon. But I am very happy with the 15300, it is not as thin or as finished as the 15202 (got to love that rotor) but it is easily my most comfortable and striking watch (well maybe other than my RG Lange). I looked at the ROO and ROC models and while I like them, and do not have a small wrist, preferred the classic lines and size of the RO.

AP makes a great if expensive watch. I find them worth it, especially since no one will recognize it, at least in my part of the world.

T

[Submarino]

Originally Posted by DucS2R

AP makes a great if expensive watch. I find them worth it, especially since no one will recognize it, at least in my part of the world.

T

x2 Well said!!! Nothing compares to the feel of an AP on your wrist!!!

[emagni]

I wished I would have known how much I love an AP much earlier in my collection. Could have saved so much money going through other brands just to get to it. The thing about AP is how many retail shops can you go and find it in the states? Not many authorized dealers at all so all I knew was Rolex. Then came Panerai and the fact that it was not sold in many places it made it all more intriguing since you have to study it harder from afar. I have always seen AP in the spread and web but could never understand why people love them so much. The more I read the more I liked and when I finally saw one in person and wrap that bad boy around my wrist....it was over. I find that it is very hard to truely take a pic of an AP ROO to capture it's true beauty. One would have to see it in the metal and try it on to understand before deciding if it is for you. Becareful and make sure you have enough funds in the bank before you do. The bug is worst then Rolex and Panerai IMHO.

[TSW]

Originally Posted by brkanand

Thanks to Jeff for starting this thread and to all members for pointing out nice things about AP, I am now showing attention to this brand.

Originally Posted by Submarino

x2 Well said!!! Nothing compares to the feel of an AP on your wrist!!!

Can only agree

[eric23]

Originally Posted by TSW

It's because of making the case stronger. Then there is actually a anti magnetic cage behind the back case.

Good to know, might have to look at that model!

[dalip]

Originally Posted by esm

Would you go for the standard edition Diver or one of those boutique edition Divers, Dalip?

I think I'd either go with the standard edition (with stick dials) or the Scuba boutique edition with Arabic dial

Standard for me Eric

[ocwatching]

Originally Posted by dalip

Standard for me Eric

[Submarino]

Diver!!!!

[esm]

Originally Posted by Submarino

The loupe sits on the movement itself and not on the crystal or the dial.

really?!? if it sits on the movement (assuming on the piggy back bit), would it above or below the date window?


im pretty sure the cyclops is attached below the crystal..... no?

[warren G.]

I got my eyes on an AP 15300 Black/Blue at the moment. I really wish I pull the trigger when most pre-owned was going for 6.5k....

[Tony-GB]

Originally Posted by esm

Would you go for the standard edition Diver or one of those boutique edition Divers, Dalip?

I think I'd either go with the standard edition (with stick dials) or the Scuba boutique edition with Arabic dial

Eric, I would steer clear of the boutique Scuba models. They are scuba in name only. The diver has been designed for a purpose i.e diving and it exceeds ISO diving requirements.

[TSW]

Originally Posted by Tony-GB

Eric, I would steer clear of the boutique Scuba models. They are scuba in name only. The diver has been designed for a purpose i.e diving and it exceeds ISO diving requirements.

Actually they are exactly the same, Only the LE's has the Caliber 2325 and the new diver has the Caliber 3120.
Also the older ones have the folding clasp and the Diver has the tang buckle.

Both are WR to 300m.

[Submarino]

Originally Posted by esm

really?!? if it sits on the movement (assuming on the piggy back bit), would it above or below the date window?


im pretty sure the cyclops is attached below the crystal..... no?

On the movement itself right below the date window on one of the bridges. Here's a pic/sketch of the movement.

[Tony-GB]

Second paragraph

http://www.ablogtoread.com/audemars-...e-diver-watch/


Read "92 Durability"

http://uk.askmen.com/fashion/watch/a...ore-diver.html

[eric23]

Originally Posted by Submarino

Different caliber and overall thickness of the watch and bracelet. The 15202 comes with the caliber 2121 (same as in the 1972 model Ref. 5402) and the 15300 with the caliber 3120. The 15202 is thinner and sits lower on the wrist. The bracelet is also slightly different. Here's a picture of my ref. 5402SA (TT model) so you can appreciate the thickness of the case and bracelet.

Thanks for the info, Nice watch!

[TSW]

Originally Posted by Tony-GB

Second paragraph

http://www.ablogtoread.com/audemars-...e-diver-watch/


Read "92 Durability"

http://uk.askmen.com/fashion/watch/a...ore-diver.html

Yes the Diver has a new updated and more shock resistant movement and more lume on the dial.
But the LE's are still a Diver's watch in that meaning.