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Metzler555 · 17 January 2012, 12:48 PM

A local shop has these two watches, what do you guys think. If you need more pictures I can upload a few more. I have very little knowledge of Rolex, but the watch looked and felt very good in my hands. I saw the model number and serial number, which had a nice engraving between the lugs.

What I noticed is that the text on the dial was off when compared to almost every Rolex dial I could find online. Particularly the "R" in Rolex, and the A's in "Perpetual" and "Datejust"

It is a ref 16030 with a 6 mil serial. It looks like this means it was produced in the late 1970s or early 1980s. It has a quickset date function.

For comparison I attached a picture of another Rolex at the shop, a fluted bezel datejust with a 5 mil serial, ref 16014. Notice how the text on the dial and the date wheel in the 16014 look very different from the 16030 in the first series of pictures.

What do you guys think? Does this watch look legitimate? Are there any questions I should ask the seller?

MoBe · 17 January 2012, 04:34 PM

I agree the R looks off and so does the X.

If there is any doubt whatsoever in your mind about this watch don`t touch it!

crowncollection · 17 January 2012, 04:59 PM

The watch is good in my opinion, rolex used a lot of different dial fonts over the years, I see nothing wrong with it, also marked t Swiss t at thr bottom another good sign consistent with what was used at the time , the date wheel has an open 6 which is consistent with its age and a good sign it's original also. Regards.

swatty · 17 January 2012, 06:25 PM

Both look OK to me

Andad · 17 January 2012, 06:34 PM

What about the crown on the bracelet Peter?

bayerische · 17 January 2012, 06:41 PM

I would say it looks good.

swatty · 17 January 2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by directioneng

What about the crown on the bracelet Peter?

I see what you mean , maybe an non Rolex bracelet, I was looking closer at the dials and date wheels that look OK to me.

RolexSA · 17 January 2012, 07:14 PM

Everything looks good to me .

mrbill2mrbill2 · 17 January 2012, 10:41 PM

The watch looks okay the bracelet is questionable.

drockadam · 17 January 2012, 10:46 PM

Looks good!

Metzler555 · 18 January 2012, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swatty

I see what you mean , maybe an non Rolex bracelet, I was looking closer at the dials and date wheels that look OK to me.

The seller said that the bracelet links may not be original rolex, but he claimed that the end links and clasp were genuine Rolex. Does this sound legitimate?

I'll take some pictures of the bracelet tonight. He also had a two tone oyster date (not datejust) with a very short seconds hand. It was shorter than just not reaching the seconds, it looked like 3/4ths normal length Interesting?

Thanks so much for the replies guys!!

17 January 2012, 12:48 PM	#1
Metzler555 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: DC Posts: 2	Datejust real or Fake? A local shop has these two watches, what do you guys think. If you need more pictures I can upload a few more. I have very little knowledge of Rolex, but the watch looked and felt very good in my hands. I saw the model number and serial number, which had a nice engraving between the lugs. What I noticed is that the text on the dial was off when compared to almost every Rolex dial I could find online. Particularly the "R" in Rolex, and the A's in "Perpetual" and "Datejust" It is a ref 16030 with a 6 mil serial. It looks like this means it was produced in the late 1970s or early 1980s. It has a quickset date function. For comparison I attached a picture of another Rolex at the shop, a fluted bezel datejust with a 5 mil serial, ref 16014. Notice how the text on the dial and the date wheel in the 16014 look very different from the 16030 in the first series of pictures. What do you guys think? Does this watch look legitimate? Are there any questions I should ask the seller? Attached Images

17 January 2012, 04:59 PM	#3
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	The watch is good in my opinion, rolex used a lot of different dial fonts over the years, I see nothing wrong with it, also marked t Swiss t at thr bottom another good sign consistent with what was used at the time , the date wheel has an open 6 which is consistent with its age and a good sign it's original also. Regards. __________________ watches many

17 January 2012, 06:34 PM	#5
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,521	What about the crown on the bracelet Peter? __________________ E

17 January 2012, 06:41 PM	#6
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	I would say it looks good. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

17 January 2012, 10:41 PM	#9
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	The watch looks okay the bracelet is questionable. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

17 January 2012, 04:34 PM	#2
MoBe "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 6,773	I agree the R looks off and so does the X. If there is any doubt whatsoever in your mind about this watch don`t touch it!

17 January 2012, 06:25 PM	#4
swatty 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Peter Location: Sydney Watch: The Game Posts: 17,415	Both look OK to me

17 January 2012, 07:14 PM	#8
RolexSA Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Belgium Posts: 318	Everything looks good to me .

17 January 2012, 10:46 PM	#10
drockadam "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: Pepsi. Posts: 5,749	Looks good! __________________ - Adam Instagram: @GMTSUBTIME

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