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Zi Pie' · 3 April 2012, 10:03 PM

I would love to get an Old GMT II, what do you guys think of this one ? I'm new but it looks good. It should be from the '90, serial E.

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imono · 3 April 2012, 11:29 PM

Looks good and pretty in the pictures.

Zi Pie' · 4 April 2012, 12:38 AM

Indeed.
Also they have a 30 day return policy, my only rolex is from Capetown, I never dealt with anybody else, at the moment they dont have a gmt like this one with papers.
Ermitage Jewelers has got some good reviews and it's BBB Accredited Business since 09/1, but I'm on the fence still.

Zi Pie' · 4 April 2012, 01:59 AM

Any other opinion beside Imon. ?
(thx again) ;)
I emailed them asking if they could they open the watch and take a pic.

robertneville · 4 April 2012, 03:07 AM

watch looks good to me.

mrbill2mrbill2 · 4 April 2012, 08:52 AM

I'm not a GMT expert. The crown and crown guards - are they correct?

kyle L · 4 April 2012, 11:31 AM

Looks a little polished down from the crownguards, or that could just be from the heavy photoshop job. Hands also look like they aged a little, but that's not a big deal.

springer · 4 April 2012, 11:51 AM

Here is what I see. The bezel insert is an aftermarket insert. Also, it would be one of the last models with the tritium dial before switching to luminova. The lugs appear nice and full-sized with sharp corners.

Zi Pie' · 5 April 2012, 05:36 AM

Thank you for your answers !!
I'm not really an expert yet :) , especially for GMT.
So in short words for 4.3k is this a good deal ? 14 days return policy.

Andelain · 5 April 2012, 08:14 AM

Have them take a pic of the watch, holding it so you can see how much the bracelet curves when unsupported. Hard to tell, but it might be stretched. If that's OK then $4300 isn't too bad of a price for that. Might try to get them to knock a little off if the bezel insert is aftermarket, though.

Zi Pie' · 5 April 2012, 08:29 AM

Thats wise, I haven't thought about the stretchiness, I browsed jubilee and they arent cheap at all !!
I ll ask tomorrow morning as soon as they re-open.
I tried, to get some hundreds off, It won't go below 4300, It was 4500 earlier.
It gives me free shipping tho.
The dealers is Ermitage jewelers by the way.

Andelain · 5 April 2012, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Zi Pie'

Thats wise, I haven't thought about the stretchiness, I browsed jubilee and they arent cheap at all !!
I ll ask tomorrow morning as soon as they re-open.
I tried, to get some hundreds off, It won't go below 4300, It was 4500 earlier.
It gives me free shipping tho.
The dealers is Ermitage jewelers by the way.

If you do get it, be sure to start another thread with detailed pics taken by you to be sure you got what you paid for. Good luck with it. I bought my GMT online with the help of a bunch of TRF'ers.

Zi Pie' · 5 April 2012, 09:13 AM

That's exactly what I'm gonna do.
Ty :)

springer · 5 April 2012, 10:41 AM

Try greekbum here on the forum. He usually has a GMT for sale and his prices are very reasonable.

Tridor · 6 April 2012, 05:46 PM

Looks like a heavy polish job to me. Notice how the springbars are almost perfectly even with the lugholes ... not a good thing, IMHO. Also, you really need to inquire about stretch in the bracelet since the older jubilees have hollow links and stretch like crazy.

Zi Pie' · 7 April 2012, 09:21 AM

I got the same feeling, i mean this watch is 22 years old, and looks like brand new.....I m waiting pic of the bracelet, but I ve got more doubts about the purchase..

3 April 2012, 10:03 PM	#1
Zi Pie' "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: Pietro Location: Boston Watch: 16610/LV/16613 Posts: 81	Rolex GMT-Master II Steel Watch 16710 I would love to get an Old GMT II, what do you guys think of this one ? I'm new but it looks good. It should be from the '90, serial E. Link

4 April 2012, 03:07 AM	#5
robertneville "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Greg Location: PA Watch: me burn Posts: 1,435	watch looks good to me. __________________ Motocross is life!

4 April 2012, 08:52 AM	#6
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	I'm not a GMT expert. The crown and crown guards - are they correct? __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

4 April 2012, 11:51 AM	#8
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	Here is what I see. The bezel insert is an aftermarket insert. Also, it would be one of the last models with the tritium dial before switching to luminova. The lugs appear nice and full-sized with sharp corners. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

5 April 2012, 08:14 AM	#10
Andelain "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: The Sandbox Watch: ing your 6...... Posts: 1,379	Have them take a pic of the watch, holding it so you can see how much the bracelet curves when unsupported. Hard to tell, but it might be stretched. If that's OK then $4300 isn't too bad of a price for that. Might try to get them to knock a little off if the bezel insert is aftermarket, though. __________________ .

3 April 2012, 11:29 PM	#2
imono "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA Posts: 3,241	Looks good and pretty in the pictures.

4 April 2012, 12:38 AM	#3
Zi Pie' "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: Pietro Location: Boston Watch: 16610/LV/16613 Posts: 81	Indeed. Also they have a 30 day return policy, my only rolex is from Capetown, I never dealt with anybody else, at the moment they dont have a gmt like this one with papers. Ermitage Jewelers has got some good reviews and it's BBB Accredited Business since 09/1, but I'm on the fence still.

4 April 2012, 01:59 AM	#4
Zi Pie' "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: Pietro Location: Boston Watch: 16610/LV/16613 Posts: 81	Any other opinion beside Imon. ? (thx again) ;) I emailed them asking if they could they open the watch and take a pic.

4 April 2012, 11:31 AM	#7
kyle L "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Explorer I Posts: 10,278	Looks a little polished down from the crownguards, or that could just be from the heavy photoshop job. Hands also look like they aged a little, but that's not a big deal.

5 April 2012, 05:36 AM	#9
Zi Pie' "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: Pietro Location: Boston Watch: 16610/LV/16613 Posts: 81	Thank you for your answers !! I'm not really an expert yet :) , especially for GMT. So in short words for 4.3k is this a good deal ? 14 days return policy.

5 April 2012, 08:29 AM	#11
Zi Pie' "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: Pietro Location: Boston Watch: 16610/LV/16613 Posts: 81	Thats wise, I haven't thought about the stretchiness, I browsed jubilee and they arent cheap at all !! I ll ask tomorrow morning as soon as they re-open. I tried, to get some hundreds off, It won't go below 4300, It was 4500 earlier. It gives me free shipping tho. The dealers is Ermitage jewelers by the way.

5 April 2012, 09:13 AM	#13
Zi Pie' "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: Pietro Location: Boston Watch: 16610/LV/16613 Posts: 81	That's exactly what I'm gonna do. Ty :)

5 April 2012, 10:41 AM	#14
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	Try greekbum here on the forum. He usually has a GMT for sale and his prices are very reasonable. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

6 April 2012, 05:46 PM	#15
Tridor "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The Ozone Watch: DD, DJ, SubC Date Posts: 1,666	Looks like a heavy polish job to me. Notice how the springbars are almost perfectly even with the lugholes ... not a good thing, IMHO. Also, you really need to inquire about stretch in the bracelet since the older jubilees have hollow links and stretch like crazy.

7 April 2012, 09:21 AM	#16
Zi Pie' "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: Pietro Location: Boston Watch: 16610/LV/16613 Posts: 81	I got the same feeling, i mean this watch is 22 years old, and looks like brand new.....I m waiting pic of the bracelet, but I ve got more doubts about the purchase..

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