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HeyItsRaymond · 11 May 2012, 08:36 AM

I have been researching getting a new watch and I think I am down to my two finalist. A White Milgauss or a No-Date Submariner.

My number one choice of the two is the Milgauss because I love the Orange/White contrast and the clean lines. My only concerns are that the crown doesn't seem to be protected like on the Sub. is this a major issue for a watch that will see daily use but nothing too brutal? Also, the clasp design seems like it would be be prone to opening easily and the closing mechanism might break down over time. From what I've seen on YouTube and in here the clasp seems to snap into place but does not have the extra fold-over locking mechanism. If I were only keeping this watch for say 4-5 years I would not worry but I tend to keep my higher-end watches forever and wanted to know if the clasp on the Milgauss uses a spring or how it closes.

A few other questions:

~ Does the Milgauss have the new, all solid links bracelet?

~ Can you put a Sub or GMT styles clasp on the Milgauss? (I've been getting mixed results from online searches)

~ Why is the White Milgauss selling for so low on the forum? I've seen it for $4,500-$5,000 even though my AD want's $7,150. Does it have problems that make it a bad investment?

I know many, many people on here will say to get the No-Date Sub first but I like that the White Face Milgauss seems rarer and it looks great in my opinion.

Thanks in advance for your advice.

HeyItsRaymond · 11 May 2012, 10:42 AM

Anybody?

theloxmyth · 11 May 2012, 10:46 AM

Hey Ray!

Only thing I can say is welcome, oh, and I like the Milgauss!

Nothing wrong about it.

It's just not well sought after and a decent deal is sure to be had.

(Everyone else will vote for the no date, I bet.

)

sleddog · 11 May 2012, 10:46 AM

To answer:
1/ Yes
2/ Yes
3/ Demand! As an investment, never think of a watch as an investment.....Buy what you like and wear it for the love and enjoyment!

HeyItsRaymond · 11 May 2012, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleddog

To answer:
1/ Yes
2/ Yes
3/ Demand! As an investment, never think of a watch as an investment.....Buy what you like and wear it for the love and enjoyment!

Okay, I guess investment would be the wrong term. Maybe purchase would be a better term.

And how would one go about getting the GMT/Sub clasp put on a Milgauss?

sleddog · 11 May 2012, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeyItsRaymond

Okay, I guess investment would be the wrong term. Maybe purchase would be a better term.

And how would one go about getting the GMT/Sub clasp put on a Milgauss?

It's a direct fit...The hardest part is acquiring one!

The are not sold by Rolex directly, but they do pop up from time to time on the sale boards here!

HeyItsRaymond · 11 May 2012, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleddog

It's a direct fit...The hardest part is acquiring one!

The are not sold by Rolex directly, but they do pop up from time to time on the sale boards here!

So assuming I can get one I should be able to put it on myself?

And THANK YOU for helping a newbie out.

My only other concern is that the crown doesn't seem to be protected like on the Sub/GMT/Explorer. Is this a major issue for a watch that will see daily use but nothing too brutal?

I think I am 110% set on the Milgauss now that I know I can get a better clasp for it.

ELITEVIDEOGAMES · 11 May 2012, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeyItsRaymond

So assuming I can get one I should be able to put it on myself?

And THANK YOU for helping a newbie out.

My only other concern is that the crown doesn't seem to be protected like on the Sub/GMT/Explorer. Is this a major issue for a watch that will see daily use but nothing too brutal?

I think I am 110% set on the Milgauss now that I know I can get a better clasp for it.

Hey Ray!

You will love your milguass and you will meet a lot of interested people as it is not seen in the wild as often as your standard sub. Don't worry at all about the crown on this watch. It's a big sturdy crown (you will know what i mean when you have it in your hands to wind and set the time) it feels rock solid and unless your doing some extreme sport there is no way you will break it.
White is all class! I have a black one but if I could turn back time I would grab the white. Post some pics when you get it and make sure to get a great deal here on trf!

ELITEVIDEOGAMES · 11 May 2012, 11:26 AM

Ps the clasp is more sturdy than you think. As long as it is not too tight on your wrist you will be assured with the click of the clasp and it's going nowhere.

HeyItsRaymond · 11 May 2012, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ELITEVIDEOGAMES

Hey Ray!

You will love your milguass and you will meet a lot of interested people as it is not seen in the wild as often as your standard sub. Don't worry at all about the crown on this watch. It's a big sturdy crown (you will know what i mean when you have it in your hands to wind and set the time) it feels rock solid and unless your doing some extreme sport there is no way you will break it.
White is all class! I have a black one but if I could turn back time I would grab the white. Post some pics when you get it and make sure to get a great deal here on trf!

That is partially the reason I prefer the Milgauss. It is seen less often. I also LOVE the white and orange. I went to my AD and they were like "Have you seen the Green Crystal one, it's rare?" and I replied that it can't be too rare since every AD I've been in has one.

ELITEVIDEOGAMES · 11 May 2012, 11:38 AM

Sounds like your sold on the "gauss"! I say jump on it.
Now that you have mentioned that you love the white and orange you got me thinking you would like a white face explorer II.... Not to throw a wrench in your plans lol but that also has crown guards....
Enjoy

kxux · 11 May 2012, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeyItsRaymond

That is partially the reason I prefer the Milgauss. It is seen less often. I also LOVE the white and orange. I went to my AD and they were like "Have you seen the Green Crystal one, it's rare?" and I replied that it can't be too rare since every AD I've been in has one.

Ray, the Milgauss is a great watch. I acquired black dial one few weeks ago and I love to wear it. It is very comfortable and fairly less visible Rolex as it lacks the cyclops and bezel is also very low key.
The clasp is fine. I too had concerns about it since I already own GMT and I expected the clasp to be the same. In any case I never had any issues with the clasp. It is very secure and solid.
Go Milgauss it is a great piece.

HeyItsRaymond · 11 May 2012, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ELITEVIDEOGAMES

Sounds like your sold on the "gauss"! I say jump on it.
Now that you have mentioned that you love the white and orange you got me thinking you would like a white face explorer II.... Not to throw a wrench in your plans lol but that also has crown guards....
Enjoy

I looked at the new Explorer II but I can get a Milgauss for about $1,500 less.

mws222 · 11 May 2012, 12:24 PM

Love the orange lightning bolt on the white dial!

franklin · 11 May 2012, 12:34 PM

It's the ultimate in cool.

byeedo · 11 May 2012, 01:13 PM

The crown is sturdy, no worries there. I have the GV though I like the white also and am thinking of adding the green sapphire to one in the near future. I think you will like the clasp also.

caryyee · 11 May 2012, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeyItsRaymond

My number one choice of the two is the Milgauss because I love the Orange/White contrast and the clean lines. My only concerns are that the crown doesn't seem to be protected like on the Sub. is this a major issue for a watch that will see daily use but nothing too brutal? Also, the clasp design seems like it would be be prone to opening easily and the closing mechanism might break down over time. From what I've seen on YouTube and in here the clasp seems to snap into place but does not have the extra fold-over locking mechanism. If I were only keeping this watch for say 4-5 years I would not worry but I tend to keep my higher-end watches forever and wanted to know if the clasp on the Milgauss uses a spring or how it closes.

I have a green Milgauss. Clasp is very secure, it's never been in danger of coming off. I also got a day-date, it does not have a fold over clasp, no danger of that coming off either in general use. Admittedly I've only owned them for a short while, so I've no long term experiences on them.
Re the crown, it doesn't seem to be a problem. I think if you were in a situation where the crown might be broken off, I would think that your hand and wrist would be a bigger worry for you!

wisguy · 11 May 2012, 01:56 PM

The clasp is fine, I've never had a complaint about mine.

Tough choice you have there, if it's your only Rolex or "luxury" watch I'd go for the 14060M, Milgauss seems to me a better 2nd Rolex that your only one.

Yeahnah · 11 May 2012, 04:28 PM

ELITEVIDEOGAMES Kxux byeedo and caryyee have answered the questions for you

To reinforce their statements, I have had my black face Milgauss for almost two years, and I've never encountered a problem. (Not babied either)
Over the last 30 years I have owned 2 - GMT's, Sub date, Exp2 and a Datejust. None of them were pampered either and all performed flawlessly, however the Milgauss is my favourite.
Its solid, extremely accurate, easily legible and best of all, not many know its a Rolex!
You'll love it

InTime · 11 May 2012, 04:38 PM

supply/demand...

people want the GV or the black one, but i do like the white one!

witch watch · 12 May 2012, 05:13 AM

Clasp on the Milgauss is a solid retainer hook, it's going nowhere

Puffy · 12 May 2012, 05:31 AM

while the clasp is an improvement over the old 78360, it's never going to be a GMT or Daytona..

i've managed to flip open the Milgauss clasp on a few occasions, but i believe not everyone is as clumsy as me

I bolted a Daytona clasp on my Milgauss to avoid any further mishaps..

Welshwatchman · 12 May 2012, 06:03 AM

I think the 116400 white dial is going to be one of those "Why didn't I buy one when they were so inexpensive" Rolex watches if and when Rolex pulls the plug on these slow sellers, like the older Milgauss variants.

Got mine back in 2008.

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Got the other two versions also. Bad pic though, taken just before dumping the collection at the back of the work safe.

Puffy · 12 May 2012, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

I think the 116400 white dial is going to be one of those "Why didn't I buy one when they were so inexpensive" Rolex watches if and when Rolex pulls the plug on these slow sellers, like the older Milgauss variants.

Got mine back in 2008

Got the other two versions also. Bad pic though, taken just before dumping the collection at the back of the work safe.

Yep
The white is a future classic....

stockae92 · 12 May 2012, 06:55 AM

If you worry about the clasp of Milgauss, then go with Sub ND, its that easy :)

Joey_V · 12 May 2012, 07:51 AM

I have the GV - no problems with the clasp, never once has it unbuckled on its own.

Regarding the White - not a popular piece which is why it sells for less.

mjclark32 · 12 May 2012, 07:54 AM

I think the white Milly looks awesome

king arthur · 12 May 2012, 08:25 AM

Hey Reymond, I have the White Milgauss and I think you will love yours too!

Your question about the links being solid, I believe they are, it feels super solid to me. I don't think you can put a SubC or GMTIIC bracelet but for me you don't need to do that, the clasp feels very secure.

I tried all models before pulling the trigger including the 14060M and it doesn't beat the Milgauss in my book, I guess because I'm not the vintage type guy.

Good luck and post some pics soon!

HeyItsRaymond · 12 May 2012, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puffy

Yep
The white is a future classic....

That's what I think also. The "Rare" GV is everywhere. Any Rolex AD I go into has this "rare" piece. Not many White Milgauss sold as far as I can tell.

Chewbacca · 12 May 2012, 08:46 AM

i had a 'm' series millie in black. nice watch and a good used buy right now. just never got used to the pcls.

11 May 2012, 08:36 AM	#1
HeyItsRaymond Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 208	Milgauss Clasp I have been researching getting a new watch and I think I am down to my two finalist. A White Milgauss or a No-Date Submariner. My number one choice of the two is the Milgauss because I love the Orange/White contrast and the clean lines. My only concerns are that the crown doesn't seem to be protected like on the Sub. is this a major issue for a watch that will see daily use but nothing too brutal? Also, the clasp design seems like it would be be prone to opening easily and the closing mechanism might break down over time. From what I've seen on YouTube and in here the clasp seems to snap into place but does not have the extra fold-over locking mechanism. If I were only keeping this watch for say 4-5 years I would not worry but I tend to keep my higher-end watches forever and wanted to know if the clasp on the Milgauss uses a spring or how it closes. A few other questions: ~ Does the Milgauss have the new, all solid links bracelet? ~ Can you put a Sub or GMT styles clasp on the Milgauss? (I've been getting mixed results from online searches) ~ Why is the White Milgauss selling for so low on the forum? I've seen it for $4,500-$5,000 even though my AD want's $7,150. Does it have problems that make it a bad investment? I know many, many people on here will say to get the No-Date Sub first but I like that the White Face Milgauss seems rarer and it looks great in my opinion. Thanks in advance for your advice.

11 May 2012, 10:46 AM	#3
theloxmyth 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NY Posts: 6,382	Hey Ray! Hey Ray! Only thing I can say is welcome, oh, and I like the Milgauss! Nothing wrong about it. It's just not well sought after and a decent deal is sure to be had. (Everyone else will vote for the no date, I bet. ) __________________ Craig, The (I'm JUST a) Loxmyth. If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith. — Albert Einstein (1879-1955) TWO FACTOR AUTHENTICATION IS ENABLED.

11 May 2012, 10:46 AM	#4
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,931	To answer: 1/ Yes 2/ Yes 3/ Demand! As an investment, never think of a watch as an investment.....Buy what you like and wear it for the love and enjoyment! __________________ He who wears a Rolex is always on time, even when late!! TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..

11 May 2012, 01:56 PM	#18
wisguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 2,406	The clasp is fine, I've never had a complaint about mine. Tough choice you have there, if it's your only Rolex or "luxury" watch I'd go for the 14060M, Milgauss seems to me a better 2nd Rolex that your only one. __________________ 5230G / 5146G / 124060 / BB58 / '59 Constellation

12 May 2012, 05:31 AM	#22
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	while the clasp is an improvement over the old 78360, it's never going to be a GMT or Daytona.. i've managed to flip open the Milgauss clasp on a few occasions, but i believe not everyone is as clumsy as me I bolted a Daytona clasp on my Milgauss to avoid any further mishaps.. __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

11 May 2012, 10:42 AM	#2
HeyItsRaymond Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 208	Anybody?

11 May 2012, 11:26 AM	#9
ELITEVIDEOGAMES "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Tom Location: Long Island NY Watch: me sell games Posts: 1,898	Ps the clasp is more sturdy than you think. As long as it is not too tight on your wrist you will be assured with the click of the clasp and it's going nowhere.

11 May 2012, 11:38 AM	#11
ELITEVIDEOGAMES "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Tom Location: Long Island NY Watch: me sell games Posts: 1,898	Sounds like your sold on the "gauss"! I say jump on it. Now that you have mentioned that you love the white and orange you got me thinking you would like a white face explorer II.... Not to throw a wrench in your plans lol but that also has crown guards.... Enjoy

11 May 2012, 12:24 PM	#14
mws222 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Nowhere Posts: 2,103	Love the orange lightning bolt on the white dial!

11 May 2012, 12:34 PM	#15
franklin "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Manitoba Posts: 586	It's the ultimate in cool.

11 May 2012, 01:13 PM	#16
byeedo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: Brian Location: usa Watch: Milgauss GV Posts: 688	The crown is sturdy, no worries there. I have the GV though I like the white also and am thinking of adding the green sapphire to one in the near future. I think you will like the clasp also.

11 May 2012, 04:28 PM	#19
Yeahnah "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Andrew Location: Sydney Aust. Watch: Mil116400 Posts: 81	ELITEVIDEOGAMES Kxux byeedo and caryyee have answered the questions for you To reinforce their statements, I have had my black face Milgauss for almost two years, and I've never encountered a problem. (Not babied either) Over the last 30 years I have owned 2 - GMT's, Sub date, Exp2 and a Datejust. None of them were pampered either and all performed flawlessly, however the Milgauss is my favourite. Its solid, extremely accurate, easily legible and best of all, not many know its a Rolex! You'll love it

11 May 2012, 04:38 PM	#20
InTime Banned Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: BermudaAntarctica Posts: 892	supply/demand... people want the GV or the black one, but i do like the white one!

12 May 2012, 05:13 AM	#21
witch watch "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Scotland Watch: Milgauss GV Posts: 1,201	Clasp on the Milgauss is a solid retainer hook, it's going nowhere

12 May 2012, 06:03 AM	#23
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	I think the 116400 white dial is going to be one of those "Why didn't I buy one when they were so inexpensive" Rolex watches if and when Rolex pulls the plug on these slow sellers, like the older Milgauss variants. Got mine back in 2008. Got the other two versions also. Bad pic though, taken just before dumping the collection at the back of the work safe. Attached Images

12 May 2012, 06:55 AM	#25
stockae92 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 4,964	If you worry about the clasp of Milgauss, then go with Sub ND, its that easy :) __________________ 135 ├┼┼╕ 246 R

12 May 2012, 07:51 AM	#26
Joey_V "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Joey Location: Dallas, TX Watch: SS Sub 16610 M Posts: 3,824	I have the GV - no problems with the clasp, never once has it unbuckled on its own. Regarding the White - not a popular piece which is why it sells for less. __________________ Current Rotation: Rolex Submariner Date (M) - 1/08, Rolex Milgauss GV (V) - 2/10, Rolex SS Black Daytona (V) - 6/10, Rolex GMTIIC (G) - 5/11, TAG Heuer Silverstone (286/1860) - 1/2015 Former-watches: Omega PO/2535.80/2254, TAG Carrera/F1x2/Monaco, Panerai 312K/292L Wish List: Panerai 270/505, Rolex SMURF, Rolex RG Daytona, Rolex DSSD

12 May 2012, 07:54 AM	#27
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	I think the white Milly looks awesome __________________

12 May 2012, 08:25 AM	#28
king arthur "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Arthur Location: Manila Watch: Daytona Posts: 278	Hey Reymond, I have the White Milgauss and I think you will love yours too! Your question about the links being solid, I believe they are, it feels super solid to me. I don't think you can put a SubC or GMTIIC bracelet but for me you don't need to do that, the clasp feels very secure. I tried all models before pulling the trigger including the 14060M and it doesn't beat the Milgauss in my book, I guess because I'm not the vintage type guy. Good luck and post some pics soon!

12 May 2012, 08:46 AM	#30
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,112	i had a 'm' series millie in black. nice watch and a good used buy right now. just never got used to the pcls.

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