Should I be concerned?

[cdweller]

Hey guys, I have a 16610LV that I have had since new for 2 1/2 years (just out of warranty period) and I recently noticed that it is gaining 7 seconds per day. I really don't want to shell out the big bucks for a service this early in my watch's life, so I am wondering 1) Could there be something terribly wrong with the movemt that could do serious damage if not addressed, and 2) are there any negative effects from stopping and resetting the watch every 2 days or so to get back to the correct time? I don't baby this watch at all but don't want to put unnecessary stress on it. Thanks for the advice everyone!!

[Frogman4me]

No and no, all is well just enjoy it and worry about a service later. The price will likely be the same if you take it to an RSC.

[Kbrantle]

7 seconds is just out of COSC standards...have you tried giving it a full manual wind and watching for a week to get an average over 7 days. I don't know a ton, and I am sure the experts will chime in, but 7 seconds doesn't sound like something is "wrong," maybe it just needs to be regulated. Being only 2.5 years old, I highly doubt it needs a full service.

[cdweller]

Originally Posted by Kbrantle

7 seconds is just out of COSC standards...have you tried giving it a full manual wind and watching for a week to get an average over 7 days. I don't know a ton, and I am sure the experts will chime in, but 7 seconds doesn't sound like something is "wrong," maybe it just needs to be regulated. Being only 2.5 years old, I highly don't it needs a full service.

Yes, I did a full wind and took the average over 15 days. When I bought the watch it was +2 seconds per day so hopefully it won't continue to gain ~2 seconds per year. I also do realize that I can't complain too much as it is a wonder that it is a mechanical time piece within seconds of perfect time. On a side note, it is so much fun to wear everywhere, even on a few surfing sessions!

[JBR27]

7 seconds = 99.992% accurate.

Enjoy it! No need to service now.

[azguy]

I have found that letting it run to a stop and then winding the watch can have an positive effect on time keeping...

Why...I have no idea....

[alexthegreat123]

Simple regulation at local certified watchmaker should fix it but I wouldn't worry about 7 seconds at all.....

[mjclark32]

Originally Posted by azguy

I have found that letting it run to a stop and then winding the watch can have an positive effect on time keeping...

Why...I have no idea....

Really? I'll have to try it out. Since I got my sub I can't remember letting the power reserve run out...

To op, I wouldn't be worried, maybe just set it a minute behind the exact time and only reset it once every week or so

[316lad]

My Sub 14060M is currently gaining about 14 seconds a day and counting. It will go on increasing in speed in a determined effort to get me to send it off for servicing. (It wants to go home!)

What it doesn't know is that I'm going to let it get to about + 30 secs/ day before I do, unless it's reading my posts.

Based on the rate it's speeding up that'll be in another year or so which will be about right.

Nothing to worry about with yours, just enjoy the mechanics of a real watch until it goes silly, then send it back to the elves.

[FeelingTheBlues]

Originally Posted by 316lad

My Sub 14060M is currently gaining about 14 seconds a day and counting. It will go on increasing in speed in a determined effort to get me to send it off for servicing. (It wants to go home!)

What it doesn't know is that I'm going to let it get to about + 30 secs/ day before I do, unless it's reading my posts.

Based on the rate it's speeding up that'll be in another year or so which will be about right.

Nothing to worry about with yours, just enjoy the mechanics of a real watch until it goes silly, then send it back to the elves.

14 seconds!? Go quartz already!

In all honesty I (yes, even myself) wouldn't worry about 7 seconds a day but if it annoys you you can also have it regulated. It's quite an easy job to do and about any watchmaker (although I'd find a good one nonetheless) can do it without any problem.

[Brian J]

Originally Posted by azguy

I have found that letting it run to a stop

That my good sir is blasphemy!



I keed I keed.

[Megalobyte]

I agree periodically letting it run down then a full wind can change things slightly. My theory is that springs tend to get more consistent when they've been conditioned by being sprung and unsprung a few times. I'd bet a spring loses a tiny bit of torque over a period of cycles, and smooths out a little.

As for 7 a day, I'd not be thrilled, but I'd live with it until the 5 year service. It definitely isn't a sign of anything significantly wrong. Since watches run SLOWER fully wound, might want to give it a manual wind twice a week in the morning.

Also, try experimenting with different nightly resting positions. My Sub C runs slowest crown down, ie. resting the watch on its crown.

[swissautopro]

Allowing it to rest overnight face (dial) down is another way of slowing the watch down. In some cases as much as 2 seconds per day.

[ecsub44]

You need to reset it every other day for 7 seconds per day of gain?

I'm sure glad that my schedule isn't that TIGHT that I need to be concerned with a handful of seconds here or there!

[cdweller]

Originally Posted by ecsub44

You need to reset it every other day for 7 seconds per day of gain?

I'm sure glad that my schedule isn't that TIGHT that I need to be concerned with a handful of seconds here or there!

Haha no my schedule isn't THAT tight, it is more that I like my watch to be on the correct minute... so I guess I should have said reset it every week or so

I think the old Rolex brochures recommended resting "crown up" in order to "lose rather more seconds" but I may be remembering incorrectly. I'll have to experiment with it. I am glad it sounds like there is nothing seriously wrong with the watch. It is such a joy to have on the wrist!!

[Megalobyte]

Originally Posted by cdweller

Haha no my schedule isn't THAT tight, it is more that I like my watch to be on the correct minute... so I guess I should have said reset it every week or so

I think the old Rolex brochures recommended resting "crown up" in order to "lose rather more seconds" but I may be remembering incorrectly. I'll have to experiment with it. I am glad it sounds like there is nothing seriously wrong with the watch. It is such a joy to have on the wrist!!

That old Rolex literature IMO no longer applies to the current watches. It doesn't seem to reflect my Sub's behavior one bit.

Ultimately it depends on who adjusted the watch at the factory. But I'd try crown down overnight, since we have the exact same movement, and also keeping it fully wound with a manual wind twice a week.

[Mickey®]

No problems...wear it for now.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by cdweller

Yes, I did a full wind and took the average over 15 days. When I bought the watch it was +2 seconds per day so hopefully it won't continue to gain ~2 seconds per year. I also do realize that I can't complain too much as it is a wonder that it is a mechanical time piece within seconds of perfect time. On a side note, it is so much fun to wear everywhere, even on a few surfing sessions!

Nothing wrong, nothing disastrous can happen...

If it concerns you, as mentioned, any competent watchmaker can regulate your watch to within a couple of seconds a day for about 50 bucks or so..

[cdweller]

Originally Posted by Tools

Nothing wrong, nothing disastrous can happen...

If it concerns you, as mentioned, any competent watchmaker can regulate your watch to within a couple of seconds a day for about 50 bucks or so..

That is a relief!! Does anybody have any recommendations for a good watch maker in the Philly, PA area? Specifically around Media, PA?

[padi56]

Take my advice leave it until a service is due even at 7 seconds a day its still less than a minute a week.Its hardly worth getting the back off regulating and pressure checking for what in reality is a few seconds out of 86400 in a day.